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    Just finished season 3 and I?m not going into details because I get mad and start a rant about how this season annoyed me a lot.

    But the question is: is season 4 an improvement of the third one? Because I?m gonna be frank: I?m about to give up on the show. And I wanna hear reasons on why I should watch it.

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    Some of the things that annoyed the crap out of me are:

    - the number of secondary characters that are incredibly boring, dull and their storylines are unbearable. For example, Tommy and Crystal are two of the most idiotic and pointless characters. I want them dead!
    Also, Jason is unbearable this season and his storyline is awful.
    - Arlene. My God, can someone shoot her? She is so annoying.
    - The storylines just become stagnant and even the Bill/Sookie/Eric triangle is getting tiresome.

    I have more reasons but I?m not gonna say them because when I start this rant, it?s hard for me to stop. So, I?m gonna stop!

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    • #3
      simple answer no...

      but you can't really expect it to follow the books to the letter it would be boring knowing how they would do it. they keep the basic story line as they did in the 3rd season but they messed around with it. so far in season four its more about witchs and less about the wolf pack to be honest I think I read the books so quick I have fuzzed the books together a bit. but I take the stance that its not the same and its never going to be the same.

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      • #4
        I never read the books!
        Maybe I?m being a big ignorant, but are they(the books) very popular?

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        • #5
          yeah I think so? I only read the book after watching season 2 because I liked the show. But I'll watch anything with vampires in it even if its crap. the books are a lot better than the TV show but books always are. If you like the idea behind true blood the show but not liking the show I deficiently recommend the books, they are super easy to read, I think I read the set (well at least where they are up to now) in like 4 months, and I'm Dyslexic and a really slow reader.

          But if you haven't read the books and still don't like season 3 then your not going to like season 4
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          • #6
            The first and second seasons were pretty similar to the books but with a couple of characters added / fleshed out because it would be boring to be completely from Sookie's POV, although the character of Tara doesn't really feature in the books massively and she's not black in the books. In the third season they introduced more characters who were never in the books (Tommy) or, again, fleshed out some of the characters who weren't really around in the books, they also blended the third and fourth books into one season.

            Have they done that again in the fourth season? Blending the fifth and sixth books or have they stuck solely to one book now?
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            • #7
              Im really enoying the 4th series, i read all the books (that were out) before i saw the show.... they do change some stuff like characters, add storylines etc... but i think they have stuck to the main plot of the book very good in all series.

              I was very happy when they created Godric and i love Hoyt <3

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              • #8
                A friend told me to give season 4 a try and well, I guess I am. But if the fourth is still the same, then I am really done!
                I?ll stick with the first two seasons and maybe read the third book.

                What?s the name of the third book?

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                • #9
                  Gonna do some bullet points cause it is easier for me.

                  1. Personally, I like the fourth season quite a bit. As always, there are a few story lines that seem sort of superfluous but overall I like most of the characters and the show is good, campy fun.

                  2. Jason is sooooo much better in season 4. Particularly after the first 3-4 eps. His story in the first few eps is kinda annoying.

                  3. As for following the books, it does. And it doesn't. You can say that about all the seasons. But there is a bit more blending of the newer books rather than it just following book 4. But book 4 is certainly the skeleton of the season.

                  4. If you really didn't enjoy season 3 I think that the 4th season is a marked improvement. I liked season 3 well enough but I did have some frustrations with it.

                  5. For all its imperfections, this is a show I truly look forward to every week. All day Sunday I am practically counting down the hours to the new ep.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by buffyholic View Post
                    A friend told me to give season 4 a try and well, I guess I am. But if the fourth is still the same, then I am really done!
                    I?ll stick with the first two seasons and maybe read the third book.

                    What?s the name of the third book?
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                    • #11
                      well.. I might be alone on this one, but I just finished season four last night and it was my favorite season, by far. I like all three seasons, anyway. Season Two was a bit of a stretch. Yet, I think season four, the show matured a little bit!! Give it a shot.. its only 12-13 eps anyways :-) What do ya have to lose?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Pike View Post
                        well.. I might be alone on this one, but I just finished season four last night and it was my favorite season, by far. I like all three seasons, anyway. Season Two was a bit of a stretch. Yet, I think season four, the show matured a little bit!! Give it a shot.. its only 12-13 eps anyways :-) What do ya have to lose?
                        Its been my fave too, much more emotional....

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                        • #13
                          I would say the fourth season is worth watching. It was actually my favorite season. I also liked season 4 as well.

                          The thing about True Blood is that they introduce characters early on in the season or previous season to be a bridge or some sort of importance in the future of the story lines. You say you didn't like Tommy and he was pointless, well to me Tommy plays a big role in season 4. He shifts the life of his brother; his causes, effects Sam.

                          Jason is freaking great in the fourth season, I really grew to love him. In the forth season they dive into situations and relationships that you cant see coming.

                          I believe that people should try and separate book series from their tv series. Though its based off the books, literary agencies and television companies are two different species.

                          In all I suggest watching season 4.
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                          • #14
                            I just watched the entire series in a couple of weeks. It is all mixed up in my head right now. I was sorta not that crazy about 4th season as I read spoilers of the end of the relationship between BIll and Sookie and it was the only thing that made me watch the previous eps.
                            I must however accept that it was forgettable fun. I got to really appreciate Eric. I am both S/B and S/E shipper as of now. If you like hot stuff go for S4. However let me warn you that the final episode ending sucks a whole lot and you will be back to this thread to rant. If I was you I wouldn't watch the final ep of the season until the new season starts or you will run the risk of leaving the whole series for good.


                            I agree with the amazing improvement of Jason. High time too! I wanted him dead for the first two seasons.

                            BTW, Sookie is such a Mary Sue in the whole series! It is starting to really bother me.

                            if you hate losing your time, do as I did. I started doing some knitting while watching so I could ignore it when it got stupid and got some nice stuff for my baby. I also watch it while working on my computer to ignore the TV when Sam is on screen.
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                            • #15
                              In the first two seasons, I loved Sookie. It was in the third season that she started to be written in a very inconsistent way and it kinda pissed me off.

                              I?m gonna give S4 a chance but if this season stays the same, I am not going back for season five.

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                              • #16
                                Well of course it's worth watching, seeing as it's made by Joss Whedon, but I don't know if you'd like it. I hated season four, but season three was my favorite season. Maybe for you it would be the opposite? It depends what you didn't like about Season 3. Season 4 IS very different from Season 3 if that's all you're wondering, so in that case give it a try.

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                                • #17
                                  Actually, Joss Whedon has nothing to do with True Blood. The series is based on the Sookie Stackhouse books written by Charlaine Harris and was adapted for television by Allan Ball. Other than some references to BtVS (such as Jason being accused of “acting like some Muslim Buffy with a dick” *g*) there is no connection between the two shows!

                                  Spoilers for S4:

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                                  I would recommend you watch S4. The show is far from perfect but it still has a lot of very colourful characters and I personally find it to be, by far, the most entertaining of the ‘vampire shows’ currently airing at the moment. It’s cheesy fun and doesn’t take itself too seriously. In fact, it pretty much encourages you to laugh along with it and I find that very refreshing. I do think the show has some frustrating writing flaws which prevents it from reaching its true potential (and I’ll get to them in a minute) but overall I thought this season was an improvement over the last. I’m also ecstatic that it killed off a couple of characters that bored me to tears (Debbie, Jesus, Tommy) so next season should be even better!

                                  I think S4’s biggest problem is that the writers are still introducing unnecessary characters and storylines that add absolutely nothing to the season. When it comes to TV I’m pretty anal about all the different threads of a season coming together to create a cohesive story, and the show often disappoints me in this way. Aside from S1, where all of the character’s stories come together under the murder mystery plot, the show repeatedly adds in random plots or characters that never amount to anything. In S4 we had;

                                  Tara’s bisexuality: Totally unnecessary and seems to have been done purely for shock value. Her new girlfriend had no relevance whatsoever to the story and it added nothing to Tara’s characterisation.

                                  The Fairy World: I found it very strange that in the season opener we’re introduced to this new world and then it’s pretty much dropped altogether for the rest of the season. Claudine makes one more appearance (only to be killed by Eric) and other than that it seems like a forgotten plot point. I’m going to assume that we’ll return back to that world at some point in the future, but I feel it was a mistake to take Sookie there in S4 if it wasn’t going to be addressed at all this season and had no relevance to the main arc. The writers might as well have saved it for the season where it will be explored in more depth.

                                  Pam’s curse: I really enjoyed this story and I loved seeing the character slowly decompose over each episode. However, I was really disappointed with the resolution when halfway through the season Pam found a temporary ‘fix’ and it became a non-issue. What a waste!? If I were the writers, I’d have let Pam’s condition grow worse throughout the season to build more tension for the climax. TB’s finales have a tendency to be pretty lacklustre so why not save the resolution for the finale and make it all more dramatic? That way it would have felt like the story was building to something substantial instead of it abruptly ending with a whimper midway through the season. In the end, it felt like the storyline was just done to kill time.

                                  Jason/Crystal: What was the point of this? Why set up this relationship between the two characters and then randomly throw Jason/Jessica together? It just felt like another storyline that added nothing to the season and was a complete waste of time. I’m going to assume that Jason will in fact become a Werepanther (or his storyline was even more pointless) but why not address that this season instead of just dropping Crystal’s character midway? If it wasn’t going to be relevant to this season then save it for the season where it will be relevant and spend all this precious screen time on developing what is relevant to this year’s plot. I’m all for setting up future storylines in advance (if that is what they are even doing) but not to this extent. Not when it detracts from the story you’re currently telling.

                                  It just feels like the writers have a very limited attention span. Sometimes I get the impression that they just throw random storylines and characters into the mix to see what will stick. Or they get bored very quickly and just move on before wrapping up storylines in a satisfactory manner. The other problem is that often all of the character’s stories feel quite random and I would like it if the writers found a way to link them all together by the end of the season. I feel the strength of S1 was that it had the murder mystery which made the entire season feel more cohesive and allowed all of the character’s storylines to become intertwined. To be fair, S4 did a better job with this and Tara, Lafayette, Sookie, Bill, Eric and Pam’s stories ended up being all very relevant to each other, but it still left characters such as Sam adrift.

                                  If the structuring of the seasons was tighter I think it would benefit the series greatly. The writers are capable of it because they managed it in S1 (and to a lesser extent S2) so I really feel they need more planning when outlining the season. When you only have a 13 episode order (as opposed to the 22+ that most network shows have) it should be very easy to write a cohesive and tight story. There’s really no excuse for all this unnecessary ‘padding’ when you have such a small amount of time to tell the year’s arc.

                                  There are many things about S4 I did like, though! I thought Marnie was a really effective ‘Big Bad’ as she came off very threatening and dangerous. I also loved how Nan Flannigan was given more screen time and loved the flashbacks between her and Bill in London. King!Bill was an interesting twist for his character and I didn’t mind Amensia!Eric, either. I have to say I wasn’t at all interested in the Sookie/Bill/Eric love triangle (and I found their scenes in the finale to be totally ridiculous) but I did enjoy how Sookie and Bill didn’t interact much. I also enjoyed how proactive Tara was throughout the season and loved the antagonistic relationship between her and Pam. And, as I said, they managed to kill off several characters that I really don’t like so that bodes well for me.
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                                  • #18
                                    Eh, I have some major frustrations with season 4, mainly towards the end (after the first horrifically bad 8 min of the premiere, lol), but overall I really enjoyed it, much more than last season at least, and even most of s2 I think (since Marnie >>>> Maryann x infinity + 1, IMO). I do think s4 is one of the better seasons of the show, and indeed MUCH better than last season, even if there are still some issues. Marnie is a well-acted Big Bad, and some really shocking twists and turns! Overall if you ever liked the show, then YES, worth watching!
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                                    • #19
                                      I have mixed feelings about season 4. I did watch it every week and like Jenni Lou counted down the hours, however I felt a little disappointed.

                                      The previous seasons had usually thrown suspense at you at the end of the episodes and left thinking omg I can't wait til next week. This season really did the same thing but left me thinking really? I felt like the suspense was forced on me this season.

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                                      • #20
                                        I just finished it and I lust say I liked this season. Now I don't know if I am alone in this but I actually enjoyed season 3 it was season 2 that almost made me stop watching. But anyway season 4 I have some issues with it but there are some really interesting things.

                                        Ok spoiler alert!!

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                                        Done that now on to the interesting things, I personally really enjoy Sookie and she is the reason I keep watching even when it gets almost unbearable I feel that I can relate to her and her actions this season were of the kind that made me root for her. I loved king!Bill I think seeing him without Sookie made him the better for it, he is more interesting character now, the opposite goes for Eric although I must say I dreaded the whole amnesia thing and it went really much better than I had expected. Oh the killing off/finishing of uninteresting characters/plots thank you! Although I got really accustomed to Jesus, he will be missed. And then of coarse to me the two higlights of this seasons:

                                        Marnie; I absolutely loved her this is for me the second season with an interesting big bad, Marnie was really scary because despite the with metaphor she represents something very real and the actress did an amazing job of being this sincere vulnerable even, while doing the most horrid things. So yeah love love love

                                        Jason: second favourite thing season is the fact that they have made a character out of Jason instead of a plot devise to show off naked chicks, for me it was an unexpected and very welcome surprise his growth process was very believable and fun to watch and I am tuning in for him next season.

                                        Oh and ok then a third good thing Pam! She is just bliss.

                                        There were things that I didn't like as well (the stupid posses baby subplot, Andy, Tara's bisexuality that is not getting touched upon or developed, Tommy, Sams new love interest, Alcide falling for Sookie as much as part of me wants to see that I also think no not the next guy come on!, the Eric/Sookie/Bill thing although I think it was handled right in the finally.)

                                        Overall I liked it looking foreward to next season
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