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  • Oberyn's arrogance was his downfall, so determined to get everything he wanted when he was elated by his seeming success that he didn't just take his revenge quickly. It was an incredibly dramatic but horrifyingly violent ending that he could so easily have avoided if he'd just taken the win.

    I find Sam really quite irritating and I've never worked out why.

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    • Originally posted by Stoney View Post
      Oberyn's arrogance was his downfall, so determined to get everything he wanted when he was elated by his seeming success that he didn't just take his revenge quickly. It was an incredibly dramatic but horrifyingly violent ending that he could so easily have avoided if he'd just taken the win.

      I find Sam really quite irritating and I've never worked out why.
      Agree about Oberyn. It felt like he was playing to the crowd, wanting them to know exactly why he wanted to kill the Mountain and for them to feel guilty for the death of his sister. He should have just ended it. I was surprised he only lasted a couple of episodes, because I thought he was around for most of the season, but we didn't see much of him at all.

      I don't mind Sam, he's that dull best friend to the hero type. He can't outshine Jon, but he has to bring something to the table. He's brave when needs be, but not showy and he's clever in his own way. Not one of my favourites, but I don't dislike him.

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      • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48335099

        Interesting article from the BBC about how much women speak on the show.

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        • To be fair women have 4 out of the top 7 spots for # of lines. Also no graph for women being bad ass? Cuz that would probably be a pretty high ratio wise.

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            • Originally posted by Priceless View Post
              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48335099

              Interesting article from the BBC about how much women speak on the show.
              Sounds about right but do they examine it in comparison to the books? I wonder if someone quantified that.

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              • Originally posted by Josh View Post
                Sounds about right but do they examine it in comparison to the books? I wonder if someone quantified that.
                I imagine the ratio would be better for the books because so many of the POV characters are female (Dany, Catelyn, Sansa, Arya, Cersei, Arianne, Asha...) but that's just me guessing.
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                • Originally posted by Ameer View Post
                  I imagine the ratio would be better for the books because so many of the POV characters are female (Dany, Catelyn, Sansa, Arya, Cersei, Arianne, Asha...) but that's just me guessing.
                  For the books, it wouldn't even make sense to make the same calculation - because characters in a book have a voice (and even more so) when we are reading their internal thoughts, than when they are speaking. For instance, there are many of Sansa's chapters where she doesn't speak that much because she's a prisoner and has to keep her real thoughts to herself, and what she says aloud are often just courtesies and empty/fake statements, but we are reading all those real thoughts that are often the opposite of what she says. The same is true of some of the male characters like Jon, whi is pretty introverted and other characters usually speak more than he does, but internal thoughts make up for it.
                  Non-POVs often talk more, because that's the only way for them to have a voice. For instance, in Davos' chapters, it's Stannis who probably has the most dialogue, followed by Melisandre, Lord Manderley and even Sallador Saan.
                  You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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                  • Anyone else gonna buy S8 dvd/blu ray?

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                    • Originally posted by HowiMetdaSlayer View Post
                      Anyone else gonna buy S8 dvd/blu ray?
                      No But then I've not bought any of the previous seasons either. I liked the show, but it really wasn't great and I think in 10 years people will look back and wonder what they saw in it.

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                      • I think (like Lost) people will still be talking about it/complaining about the final season for decades.

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                        • Maulers review of S8 E5 is out and its brutal but 100% correct

                          https://youtu.be/7K0KaEYX41c

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                          • Why is the review like 3 times longer than the actual episode? Sorry maybe make a vid of the highlights?

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