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  • How's everybody holding up?

    Don't think there's a country or community in the world that's not affected by, if not the actual virus, than certainly the associated mass hysteria. Everybody doing okay?
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    I was just debating whether it was wise or paranoid to consider not taking the kids to all their after school activities now. The talk of closing schools seems to be waiting until the virus is prevalent rather than looking to limit the outbreak to me, but I also don't want to overreact. I don't feel overly worried, just wary of making poor choices I'll regret with hindsight. Perhaps that is just kind of inevitable.

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    • #3
      I'm good. Work are providing protective clothing and hand sanitisers, telling us to stay home if we have a cough etc. So far I know a lot of people who've been tested but don't have coronavirus. Hope it stays that way.

      I'm annoyed the Premier League has been suspended, but that's such a minor thing.

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      • #4
        School is on lockdown. Sports activities have been called off. I have no idea what I am going to do with a lively eight year old for the next four weeks (!) at home. That's worrying me more than the fact that I won't be able to go to work.

        But people are still more or less okay here in Germany. There is no hysteria about the virus itself. People are simply waiting for everything to blow over.

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        • #5
          Doin' ok. Glad hubby has been allowed to work from home. Was worried about his exposure. Now we just have to put up with each other. :vamp_mrgreen:We are both good loners however. We can ignore each other if necessary!

          Took car to inspection this AM and there was nearly no one there. No lines. Sanitized car lightly after inspection.

          We have lots of extra cat food. (Not sure about human, but we will be fine even if it we eat all our canned food). Bought our sanitizers about a week before everyone started panicking. Should last a month under "normal" conditions.

          Hopefully there will be milk in the store as we never did get evaporated stock. If we run out of TP, there is always old newspapers we saved for our paint projects (we used np in my country in 70s when tp ran low. Unpleasant, works fine)

          Current Paranoia Status: mild.
          Last edited by DeepBlueJoy; 13-03-20, 02:31 PM.

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          • #6
            I might add that I expect an incredible increase of posts on this board since we are all now sitting at home having nothing else to do

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            • #7
              Don't know if I've mentioned this before, but a friend of mine and her husband are going to New York and Vegas for his birthday next month. Not sure that's going to happen now They do have insurance and will be fully refunded I'm sure, but it's something they've been planning for ages and it's very disappointing for them.

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              • #8
                One person's mass hysteria is another person's prudence. I've seen no sign of mass hysteria. I'm more concerned about inept government than the virus itself (despite being in a high risk group because of cardiovascular disease).

                "Boris Johnson, the UK prime minister, believes more needs to be done to coordinate international action on tackling the coronavirus, his official spokesman has said..."The prime minister believes that this is a crisis which affects countries around the globe, and does require a global response"...

                ...says the man who's done absolutely nothing but pass the buck and tell people to wash their hands.

                My son works in Outdoor Events. They've had a lot of cancellations; museums, art galleries etc. closing of their own volition because they think it's the ethical thing to do. And talking of "ethical"...

                Similarly - Priceless - because of this, I'll join you in that tattoo. flow - an umlaut!


                J?rgen Klopp has penned an open letter to supporters:
                I don't think this is a moment where the thoughts of a football manager should be important, but I understand for our supporters they will want to hear from the team and I will front that.

                First and foremost, all of us have to do whatever we can to protect one another. In society I mean. This should be the case all the time in life, but in this moment I think it matters more than ever.

                I've said before that football always seems the most important of the least important things. Today, football and football matches really aren't important at all.

                Of course, we don't want to play in front of an empty stadium and we don't want games or competitions suspended, but if doing so helps one individual stay healthy - just one - we do it no questions asked.

                If it's a choice between football and the good of the wider society, it's no contest. Really, it isn't.

                Today's decision and announcement is being implemented with the motive of keeping people safe. Because of that we support it completely. We have seen members of teams we compete against become ill. This virus has shown that being involved in football offers no immunity. To our rival clubs and individuals who are affected and to those who later will become so, you are in our thoughts and prayers.

                None of us know in this moment what the final outcome will be, but as a team we have to have belief that the authorities make decisions based on sound judgement and morality.

                Yes, I am the manager of this team and club and therefore carry a leadership responsibility with regards to our future on the pitch. But I think in the present moment, with so many people around our city, the region, the country and the world facing anxiety and uncertainty, it would be entirely wrong to speak about anything other than advising people to follow expert advice and look after themselves and each other.

                The message from the team to our supporters is only about your well-being. Put your health first. Don't take any risk. Think about the vulnerable in our society and act where possible with compassion for them.

                Please look after yourselves and look out for each other.

                You'll Never Walk Alone,

                J?rgen


                Ha...#BorisOut is trending, I feel better now!
                Last edited by TriBel; 13-03-20, 03:38 PM.
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                • Priceless
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                  Wonderful Klopp. I hope it doesn't affect Liverpools season

                • flow
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                  Please come back home, Kloppo. We miss you so much <3

              • #9
                For once, I have nothing to do. Cleaned up my place and built some IKEA furniture that I'd been avoiding for months!

                I've gotten over 50 emails from various restaurants, supermarkets and movie theaters today. "A letter to our valued guests..." all reassuring me that they're disinfecting and sanitizing everything. One restaurant has sent "We're Open!" Emails with discounts at least three times - I fear this is really devastating them. But it's drizzling outside and I don't want to leave my nice warm place.

                Stoney, I wouldn't feel bad about taking the kids to after-school activities yet - keeping things somewhat normal is important. It's always hard to know what to do. I guess it also depends on what the activity is - I'd avoid huge sports or theater crowds. If it's just a small group of kids, it's probably a little safer. The danger lies in the virus mutating - right now, it affects the elderly and those with underlying health issues. But if it mutates like the Spanish Flu, it could become much deadlier for younger people. It's so hard to know whether one is being prudent or over-reacting except in hindsight.

                Priceless, if your friend and her husband have to cancel their trip, it's probably for the best right now. The streets of New York are somewhat deserted and it's grimly depressing. The museums and theaters are closed and I have a bad feeling the restaurants are next. In Vegas, I think they closed a lot of the fancy buffets and that's one of the main reasons for going - well, at least for me!
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                • #10
                  Originally posted by American Aurora View Post

                  Priceless, if your friend and her husband have to cancel their trip, it's probably for the best right now. The streets of New York are somewhat deserted and it's grimly depressing. The museums and theaters are closed and I have a bad feeling the restaurants are next. In Vegas, I think they closed a lot of the fancy buffets and that's one of the main reasons for going - well, at least for me!
                  Yeah, bit of a miserable holiday, sat in their hotel room. Probably the worst and most expensive birthday Ken'll ever have

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                  • #11
                    All good here. Nothing really that different in my area at all. We had more warning posters up for measles than we do for this (so far) and there wasn't even a case of measles in the state at the time. The shopping centres were out of toilet paper a couple weeks ago, but now they are selling single rolls, that are in stock every time I go in. The cruise ships that were turned away from other ports are being re-directed to my local city, so its pretty sure to hit.

                    I have enough stuff for myself and any desperate neighbours. I might do a whirl round the neighbourhood with some pears from my trees as an excuse to check on the neighbours before any confirmed cases here. I think I will be online quite a bit.

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                    • #12
                      Swimming pools, libraries, museums, theaters ... they are all closing now.

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                      • #13
                        As a nation we're not doing all that well. Sadly enough the virus showed up in our country during carnaval. The situation in the catholic part of The Netherlands is bad. Luckily I live in the north, but everybody needs to work from home when that's possible and if you are sick (even if it's a minor cold) you have to stay at home. Which is my situation right now. Pretty sure it's nothing serious, but it's annoying that I can't leave the house.

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                        • Double Dutchess
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                          Same here. I'm now regretting all the things I could have done before yesterday when the rules weren't that strict yet...

                      • #14
                        We just jumped from 34 cases to 74 (5 recovered) cases in Ontario in the past 3 or 4 days so there's that. All but 1 is mild enough to self-isolate though. So far they say there's no community spread yet. Most colleges and universities are switching to online, but so far mine has only committed to a 2 day shutdown and still expects us to go to our internships at least Monday. Most everything else in Toronto itself is cancelled until early or mid April. Need to get a special cat food for the cats tomorrow morning.
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                        • #15
                          There have been no confirmed cases in my county, so I think we're doing okay. I'm sure it will reach us eventually.

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                          • #16
                            My school cancelled classes for the week and what can move online will be. Pretty sure all my classes can be moved online but they still want us to go to internships. Honestly might just deffer it to the summer even if they charge me again. Only need about 10 more days if they still count what internship hours I've already done.

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                            • #17
                              I'm an American so we have no idea how the county, city, or state is doing. People who want to be tested are being turned away from hospitals if they don't match the exact criteria set up by Trump and Pence. Since the cost of being tested runs up to $1,500 most people couldn't afford it anyway. As far as I can tell there is no free testing, and despite what Trump said, there are no tests still. The CDC reports that 7000 people were tested in the entire country last week. Anyway, Trump is talking about giving money to big business, but people without insurance and paid sick leave are still expected to work or take the consequences of no salary for an extended period.

                              Personally, taking few risks. I had another spinal surgery at the end of February, and I have a COPD with a history of pneumonia. I have been to the store a few times but I was careful. My younger daughter is a cashier so she is constantly exposed. She says she has a bottle of hand sanitizer at her station, and that's the best she can do. Her store is wiped out - no toilet paper or hand sanitizer. Not sure why we have this toilet paper fixation. My older daughter has a small business that requires minimal contact. My eldest granddaughter has just had her school closed for 6 weeks. She's living with her father right now - stepmom, baby brother, etc. My middle grandchild has just started spring break for a week - we'll see if schools reopen. Youngest starts school in August. While it reduces our exposure, it does mean active kids in the house to be entertained. They'll spend half the time with their dad, so that will give us a break.

                              tl:dr - We have a fecking moron president who lies to us in order to make sure we don't take precautions and scare the market, a Republican dominated state legislature that won't do anyting, and therefore we have no idea what is going on.
                              Can we agree that the writers made everyone do and say everything with a thought to getting good ratings and being renewed. This includes everything we love as well as everything we hate.

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                              • GoSpuffy
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                                Take care!

                            • #18
                              All is fine here amongst my nearest and dearest,
                              although my sister had to postpone the Reproductive
                              Justice conference she's been planning for over
                              a year-

                              And my psychoanalyst moved our sessions online:
                              just too many people, most of them not her own
                              patients, going through the building every day-

                              Neither of the two students I tutor in person have
                              expressed a desire to move our sessions online
                              (I work with another online already), but I'm
                              fine with that, as I am with my doctor's decision....

                              As for my country, however....

                              As bespangled so perfectly explained, all is trending
                              toward the disastrous:

                              Here in the Bay Area, local officials are handling things
                              as well as possible, given the brutal stupidity of the
                              federal government, but I fear for those who will be out
                              of work and those who will have to work in the service
                              industries just to survive-

                              Even as working to survive puts them at risk of exposure....

                              And I fear even more for the rest of the nation-

                              And beyond-


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                              • #19
                                I'm not going out - which isn't particularly new because I tend to be reclusive. My biggest problem is public transport (I've got a car but I'm a crap driver). I've got underlying cardiovascular problems - which don't normally bother me but make me high risk. I'm usually blase about health - I don't have the patience to be a patient - but the pneumonia aspect of this frightens me. I nursed my dad through terminal cancer and saw how breathlessness effected him. So I'm kinda doing nothing at the moment - which is a bit of a worry. I'm trying to take walks but there's nowhere here I want to walk to. On my last walk I got so depressed by my surroundings I was praying for the virus to kill me. I'm debating whether to take my pensions early but I'm not sure of the extent to which the stock market debacle will have effected them...or I'm being my usual apathetic self with a phobia for forms.

                                My eldest works is a Marketing and Comms manager for an international outdoor arts company so he's worried about his job and the long term impact on the sector. The middle one is a psychotherapist. I'm hoping he'll be able to work from home soon. He can't get hand sanitzer and he works for the NHS FFS! The youngest is a law unto himself and will do exactly what he wants to do. It's difficult to panic him or instill a sense of urgency in him because he has no imagination.

                                I'm spending most of my time online - swapping between my preferred Liberal/Left quality paper and the populist right-wing tabloids. As a result, I'm developing a strong dislike/disdain for 50% of the world. The Guardian is good - it's running a continuous live blog with (mostly) factual information. Courtesy of The Guardian I now know " Abu Dhabi has announced the temporary closure of the Louvre Abu Dhabi museum". I'm taking succour in this.

                                I'm trying to figure out what's going on - the only conclusion I've come to is our PM is a feckless feckin idiot and parliament don't have two brain cells to rub together. I suspect they're the result of inbreeding and the cabinet was chosen to make Bozo the Clown look good. He's completely out of his depth. I firmly believe he only wanted to be PM out of a sense of entitlement...the legacy of divine right of kings. We're not kept in the picture but I'm sure that's because he doesn't have a picture that can be expressed in Latin/English soundbites or by shouting, gurning and waving his hands. I wish he'd go back inside his ruddy fridge.

                                An economist says Bozo's using what behavioral psychologists call "Nudge Theory". "Rather than forcing us to do things, nudging tweaks the environments in which we make choices ? for example by requiring people to opt out of organ donation, rather than opting in". So basically, what he's trialing is a secularised form of Lent. We voluntarily give up chocolate then get Easter Eggs (or the Promised Land) at the end. If they force abstinence on us for longer than 40 days, we'll become fatigued and rebel (but, because we're British, rebellion will involve copious amounts of tea and we'll say "sorry" a lot).

                                I might just re-tile the bathroom...or re-watch Wolf Hall (they had PROPER plagues in the olden days). I've no intention of dying when there's a possibility of Lucifer S6.
                                Last edited by TriBel; 14-03-20, 11:35 AM.
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                                • #20
                                  As someone who also is high risk due to multiple/complicated health issues. I'm not ashamed to say that currently I'm bloody terrified mixed with anger. Anger at the heartless arseholes who are currently running both the States and the UK. People who don't give a f*ck and who appear to think more of pandering to the stock market and big business then looking after the health of their own people. As I live in a house divided into tiny studio flats and I don't have room to stockpile stuff and to make matters worse my toilet is outside in the communal corridor (don't ask) but supposedly It's not used by anyone but me. So every time I need to go I uses disposable gloves and then wash my hands and use sanitizer afterwards. When the others in the place go to work this week I will go and do a quick round of cleaning with alcohol based spray. Just to temporally take the edge of things. I have to go to the shops at least 3 times a week out of the rush hours. I just hope I can keep dodging the bullet for as long as possible.

                                  Oh and to top it off yesterday the first report of a bay born with the virus in a hospital right near me. If we are not careful this is going to be the end of days for some people.

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                                  • StateOfSiege97
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                                    care, thoughts-

                                    and shared fury-

                                  • Double Dutchess
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                                    I hope you'll be able to stay safe.

                                  • SpuffyGlitz
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                                    Warmest wishes and thoughts, hope you'll stay safe
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