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  • While Minear's s2 stuff is my favourite, I think the whole journey he took the character Angel on has been great. Somnambulist, The Prodigal, Sanctuary, AYNOHYEB, Darla, The Trial, Reunion, Reprise, Epiphany, Lullaby, Benediction & Home as an epilogue. His influence on the character has been massive. While Greenwalt must have played a major role, it seems like it was Minear who had a clear idea about what he wanted Angel to be. And I wonder what Angel would've been without him (or what would've happened to him if Minear never left the show). I think it's only fair that his best Angel-centric episodes are in the top 4.

    Interesting contrast with the BtVS-game btw. Over there, episodes in which the whole cast had something to do were rated higher while these Minear episodes are extremely Angel-centric.


    Anyway, I love Reprise very much. But it made the top 4 and Stoney has been trying to get rid of it for so long, I will let it go.

    + Darla
    - Reunion

    Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 7
    Darla- 6
    Reunion- 5
    Reprise- 3


    Reset at:
    16
    10
    4

    Eliminated:
    05. Sleep Tight
    06. Lullaby
    07. Dear Boy
    08. Deep Down
    09. Benediction
    10. Hell-Bound
    11. Not Fade Away
    12. Damage
    13. Origin
    14. Forgiving
    15. Destiny
    16. Salvage
    17. Smile Time
    18. You're Welcome
    19. Billy
    20. A New World
    21. The Magic Bullet
    22. In The Dark

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    • I think that the exploration for Wes and Connor that S3 & 4 brought alongside digging into Angel as a character is part of why I love them so much. Three of my favourite characters getting really impactful stories and development. But I think the feeling of AtS as an ensemble show is probably greatly affected by the recurring theme being if Angel can integrate with humans, whereas with Buffy the repeated consideration is how her slaying makes her feel separate to her 'normal' life. The starting points are on opposite sides of the coin.

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      • Well, I don't know why everyone was so obsessed with "It has to be the most ensemble episode!" factor... Why not just go by which episode you think is best?
        I could go with either Darla or Are You Now... for the winning episode.

        + Darla
        - Reunion

        Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 7
        Darla- 7
        Reunion- 4
        Reprise- 3


        Reset at:
        16
        10
        4

        Eliminated:
        05. Sleep Tight
        06. Lullaby
        07. Dear Boy
        08. Deep Down
        09. Benediction
        10. Hell-Bound
        11. Not Fade Away
        12. Damage
        13. Origin
        14. Forgiving
        15. Destiny
        16. Salvage
        17. Smile Time
        18. You're Welcome
        19. Billy
        20. A New World
        21. The Magic Bullet
        22. In The Dark

        You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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        • Originally posted by TimeTravellingBunny View Post
          Well, I don't know why everyone was so obsessed with "It has to be the most ensemble episode!" factor... Why not just go by which episode you think is best?
          I think it was just a factor to compare between them. FFL was also remarked on as not being about Buffy and that going against it (I know you have other dislikes), but I thought it was far stronger as an individual episode than the position it got. It depends what you think makes a good episode in the first place.

          Here I think AYNOHYEB is a lot stronger than the other three but that's reflective really of how stand out fantastic it is. Best of the series for me.

          + AYNOHYEB
          - Reprise

          Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 8
          Darla- 7
          Reunion- 4
          Reprise- 2


          Reset at:
          16
          10
          4

          Eliminated:
          05. Sleep Tight
          06. Lullaby
          07. Dear Boy
          08. Deep Down
          09. Benediction
          10. Hell-Bound
          11. Not Fade Away
          12. Damage
          13. Origin
          14. Forgiving
          15. Destiny
          16. Salvage
          17. Smile Time
          18. You're Welcome
          19. Billy
          20. A New World
          21. The Magic Bullet
          22. In The Dark

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          • I think it also depends on the kind of episode. A series finale should have time for all main characters IMO. While there are enough episodes where I wouldn't mind it if a few main characters were not around. Reprise & Epiphany would improve if they cut the subplot with Cordy, Wes and Gunn by example.



            + AYNOHYEB
            - Reunion

            Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 9
            Darla- 7
            Reunion- 3
            Reprise- 2


            Reset at:
            16
            10
            4

            Eliminated:
            05. Sleep Tight
            06. Lullaby
            07. Dear Boy
            08. Deep Down
            09. Benediction
            10. Hell-Bound
            11. Not Fade Away
            12. Damage
            13. Origin
            14. Forgiving
            15. Destiny
            16. Salvage
            17. Smile Time
            18. You're Welcome
            19. Billy
            20. A New World
            21. The Magic Bullet
            22. In The Dark


            Comment


            • . We're nearly there guys.

              Comment



              • + AYNOHYEB
                - Reunion

                Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 10
                Darla- 7
                Reunion- 2
                Reprise- 2


                Reset at:
                16
                10
                4

                Eliminated:
                05. Sleep Tight
                06. Lullaby
                07. Dear Boy
                08. Deep Down
                09. Benediction
                10. Hell-Bound
                11. Not Fade Away
                12. Damage
                13. Origin
                14. Forgiving
                15. Destiny
                16. Salvage
                17. Smile Time
                18. You're Welcome
                19. Billy
                20. A New World
                21. The Magic Bullet
                22. In The Dark


                You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

                Comment


                • + AYNOHYEB
                  - Reprise

                  Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 11
                  Darla- 7
                  Reunion- 2
                  Reprise- 1


                  Reset at:
                  16
                  10
                  4

                  Eliminated:
                  05. Sleep Tight
                  06. Lullaby
                  07. Dear Boy
                  08. Deep Down
                  09. Benediction
                  10. Hell-Bound
                  11. Not Fade Away
                  12. Damage
                  13. Origin
                  14. Forgiving
                  15. Destiny
                  16. Salvage
                  17. Smile Time
                  18. You're Welcome
                  19. Billy
                  20. A New World
                  21. The Magic Bullet
                  22. In The Dark

                  Comment


                  • I wonder which episode is going to win this game.


                    + AYNOHYEB
                    - Reunion

                    Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 12
                    Darla- 7
                    Reunion- 1
                    Reprise- 1


                    Reset at:
                    16
                    10
                    4

                    Eliminated:
                    05. Sleep Tight
                    06. Lullaby
                    07. Dear Boy
                    08. Deep Down
                    09. Benediction
                    10. Hell-Bound
                    11. Not Fade Away
                    12. Damage
                    13. Origin
                    14. Forgiving
                    15. Destiny
                    16. Salvage
                    17. Smile Time
                    18. You're Welcome
                    19. Billy
                    20. A New World
                    21. The Magic Bullet
                    22. In The Dark

                    Comment



                    • + AYNOHYEB
                      - Reunion *eliminated*

                      Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 13
                      Darla- 7
                      Reprise- 1


                      Reset at:
                      16
                      10
                      4

                      Eliminated:
                      04. Reunion
                      05. Sleep Tight
                      06. Lullaby
                      07. Dear Boy
                      08. Deep Down
                      09. Benediction
                      10. Hell-Bound
                      11. Not Fade Away
                      12. Damage
                      13. Origin
                      14. Forgiving
                      15. Destiny
                      16. Salvage
                      17. Smile Time
                      18. You're Welcome
                      19. Billy
                      20. A New World
                      21. The Magic Bullet
                      22. In The Dark
                      You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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                      • + AYNOHYEB
                        - Reprise *dust*

                        Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 14
                        Darla- 7


                        Reset at:
                        16
                        10
                        4

                        Eliminated:
                        03. Reprise
                        04. Reunion
                        05. Sleep Tight
                        06. Lullaby
                        07. Dear Boy
                        08. Deep Down
                        09. Benediction
                        10. Hell-Bound
                        11. Not Fade Away
                        12. Damage
                        13. Origin
                        14. Forgiving
                        15. Destiny
                        16. Salvage
                        17. Smile Time
                        18. You're Welcome
                        19. Billy
                        20. A New World
                        21. The Magic Bullet
                        22. In The Dark

                        Comment


                        • Two flashback episodes, interesting.


                          + AYNOHYEB
                          - Darla

                          Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 15
                          Darla- 6


                          Reset at:
                          16
                          10
                          4

                          Eliminated:
                          03. Reprise
                          04. Reunion
                          05. Sleep Tight
                          06. Lullaby
                          07. Dear Boy
                          08. Deep Down
                          09. Benediction
                          10. Hell-Bound
                          11. Not Fade Away
                          12. Damage
                          13. Origin
                          14. Forgiving
                          15. Destiny
                          16. Salvage
                          17. Smile Time
                          18. You're Welcome
                          19. Billy
                          20. A New World
                          21. The Magic Bullet
                          22. In The Dark

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                          • The flashbacks are always great on Angel.
                            Well, almost always.

                            + AYNOHYEB
                            - Darla

                            Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 16
                            Darla- 5


                            Reset at:
                            16
                            10
                            4

                            Eliminated:
                            03. Reprise
                            04. Reunion
                            05. Sleep Tight
                            06. Lullaby
                            07. Dear Boy
                            08. Deep Down
                            09. Benediction
                            10. Hell-Bound
                            11. Not Fade Away
                            12. Damage
                            13. Origin
                            14. Forgiving
                            15. Destiny
                            16. Salvage
                            17. Smile Time
                            18. You're Welcome
                            19. Billy
                            20. A New World
                            21. The Magic Bullet
                            22. In The Dark

                            You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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                            • Originally posted by TimeTravellingBunny View Post
                              Well, almost always.
                              For a moment there I wondered what you were referring to and then I was at, 'ah, of course'.

                              + AYNOHYEB
                              - Darla

                              Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 17
                              Darla- 4


                              Reset at:
                              16
                              10
                              4

                              Eliminated:
                              03. Reprise
                              04. Reunion
                              05. Sleep Tight
                              06. Lullaby
                              07. Dear Boy
                              08. Deep Down
                              09. Benediction
                              10. Hell-Bound
                              11. Not Fade Away
                              12. Damage
                              13. Origin
                              14. Forgiving
                              15. Destiny
                              16. Salvage
                              17. Smile Time
                              18. You're Welcome
                              19. Billy
                              20. A New World
                              21. The Magic Bullet
                              22. In The Dark

                              Comment


                              • + AYNOHYEB
                                - Darla

                                Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 18
                                Darla- 3


                                Reset at:
                                16
                                10
                                4

                                Eliminated:
                                03. Reprise
                                04. Reunion
                                05. Sleep Tight
                                06. Lullaby
                                07. Dear Boy
                                08. Deep Down
                                09. Benediction
                                10. Hell-Bound
                                11. Not Fade Away
                                12. Damage
                                13. Origin
                                14. Forgiving
                                15. Destiny
                                16. Salvage
                                17. Smile Time
                                18. You're Welcome
                                19. Billy
                                20. A New World
                                21. The Magic Bullet
                                22. In The Dark

                                Comment


                                • + AYNOHYEB
                                  - Darla

                                  Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 19
                                  Darla- 2


                                  Reset at:
                                  16
                                  10
                                  4

                                  Eliminated:
                                  03. Reprise
                                  04. Reunion
                                  05. Sleep Tight
                                  06. Lullaby
                                  07. Dear Boy
                                  08. Deep Down
                                  09. Benediction
                                  10. Hell-Bound
                                  11. Not Fade Away
                                  12. Damage
                                  13. Origin
                                  14. Forgiving
                                  15. Destiny
                                  16. Salvage
                                  17. Smile Time
                                  18. You're Welcome
                                  19. Billy
                                  20. A New World
                                  21. The Magic Bullet
                                  22. In The Dark

                                  You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

                                  Comment


                                  • + AYNOHYEB
                                    - Darla

                                    Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 20
                                    Darla- 1


                                    Reset at:
                                    16
                                    10
                                    4

                                    Eliminated:
                                    03. Reprise
                                    04. Reunion
                                    05. Sleep Tight
                                    06. Lullaby
                                    07. Dear Boy
                                    08. Deep Down
                                    09. Benediction
                                    10. Hell-Bound
                                    11. Not Fade Away
                                    12. Damage
                                    13. Origin
                                    14. Forgiving
                                    15. Destiny
                                    16. Salvage
                                    17. Smile Time
                                    18. You're Welcome
                                    19. Billy
                                    20. A New World
                                    21. The Magic Bullet
                                    22. In The Dark

                                    Comment


                                    • AYNOHYEB had to fight a tough battle with That Vision Thing during the round with all second episodes, but this round was no problem for the atypical flashback episode.

                                      - Darla (Eliminated)
                                      + Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been (WINNER)


                                      Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been - 21


                                      Reset at:
                                      16
                                      10
                                      4

                                      Eliminated:
                                      02. Darla
                                      03. Reprise
                                      04. Reunion
                                      05. Sleep Tight
                                      06. Lullaby
                                      07. Dear Boy
                                      08. Deep Down
                                      09. Benediction
                                      10. Hell-Bound
                                      11. Not Fade Away
                                      12. Damage
                                      13. Origin
                                      14. Forgiving
                                      15. Destiny
                                      16. Salvage
                                      17. Smile Time
                                      18. You're Welcome
                                      19. Billy
                                      20. A New World
                                      21. The Magic Bullet
                                      22. In The Dark


                                      Thanks for playing! ?

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                                      • TimeTravellingBunny
                                        TimeTravellingBunny commented
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                                        Thanks! And congratulations to the great episode!
                                        How did The Vision Thing ever mount a challenge?

                                      • Stoney
                                        Stoney commented
                                        Editing a comment
                                        Delighted with this result. AYNOHYEB is definitely the best of the series I think and should have more easily romped to victory in its round.

                                    • Yay AYNOHYEB is my favourite episode of AtS so I'm very happy it won!

                                      That's 2/2 for me - Innocence also


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