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    The only thing saving this season was the hilarious episodes and the continued great acting. Otherwise it was horrible x.x. Mainly how s3 was supposed to be all out war and they'res hardly a single intense battle. Especially the final part with Gordon.

    After that they'res a million little things. It was cool for example that the girl from Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader played Lilith on the final episode. Why didn't she play her the whole time though?

    Oh and just when the new girls get interesting they die. I'm really tired of that. And I wanted more Tara.

  • #2
    S3 had a lot of weaknesses, it certainly wasn't the best Supernatural season, but it still managed to have a lot of really fantastic episodes, despite the many problems the show encountered that season like network interference with the storylines, budget cuts and not to mention the writer's strike, which forced them to cut all plotlines down.

    Originally posted by assydingo View Post
    Mainly how s3 was supposed to be all out war and they'res hardly a single intense battle. Especially the final part with Gordon.
    Apart from the external fact that the show simply has no budget to depict an all out demon war on screen, there were a lot of internal factors why the demons didn't strike in a united effort to take down the humans: As Casey in Sin City explains, with the YED dead and no army leader to take over command, the demon factions fell apart and there was an internal battle over the crown. The demons simply had nobody to unite them on one front for a strike. Everybody was fighting for themselves, some waiting for Sam to step up to his role, others trying to gain power. So there was simply no 'all out war' for the show to depict.

    That only changed when Lilith managed to unite the majority of demons behind her, but in order to secure that power she needed to get Sam out of the way to get his followers to change to her faction. After she was defeated by Sam in No Rest For The Wicked I guess her position is shaky again, but I guess we need to wait and see for that.

    Originally posted by assydingo View Post
    It was cool for example that the girl from Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader played Lilith on the final episode. Why didn't she play her the whole time though?
    Because demons jump bodies, it's what they do. They use the bodys that are useful to them. Lilith wanted to terrorize that family for fun and the best way to do that was to take possession of their little girl. It wouldn't have been half as effective if she walked into that family, possessing the body of an other child.

    Originally posted by assydingo View Post
    And I wanted more Tara.
    Uhm, as far as I am aware there's no character named Tara on the show!
    Last edited by galathea; 26-09-08, 09:15 AM.

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    • #3
      Tara as in Amber Benson. In s2 she played a vampire EXTREMELY well and than we never see her again. I was sad x.x.

      I guess you're right about Lilith. I still feel the show could have had more intense battles, even without big budget effects. Now that I think about it shifting to more funny epsiodes was a very wise choice in the situation. Gah, kinda wish WB died and someone else picked up Supernatural <.<.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by assydingo View Post
        Gah, kinda wish WB died and someone else picked up Supernatural <.<.
        I hear that!!! Well, if had been Fox. They would have funneled some money into it and the show wouldn't be so bare bones. It would actually have some recognizeable music in it. Rather than maybe one song every couple episodes. (Oh and maybe we could actually have more than 8-12 minutes an episode where Sam and Dean share the screen because the actors were getting paid more. No I'm not bitter at the CW one bit.)

        But it's always a risk to be a show on Fox with their love of cancellations! :

        NBC wouldn't be too bad. Their fave show gimmick is the stunt casting. Which I would have loved if we could have gotten some rock music or horror movie legends. Dude, Alice Cooper or Lemmy Kilmister or Bruce Campbell. *dies of awesomeness*

        I'd be scared if something like ABC or CBS picked it up. CBS has no clue how to handle a show if it isn't a crime procedural. And ABC is all drama soaps.

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        • #5
          The first seasons seemed to have adequate budgets. It's amazing that in such a short time CW became so fragile and nearly bankrupt o.o.

          Fox would be tough because of the ratings game.

          NBC lets a show continue if its has decent ratings and is highly rated (like 30 Rock) so they'd treat it well.

          Bruce Campbell would be amazing! He shouldn't play a human... maybe he could be one of the demons in Hell we see in Dean's flash backs.

          I really hope this show gets to finish it's last two seasons and has the budget and everything else needed to do them right!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by assydingo View Post
            Tara as in Amber Benson. In s2 she played a vampire EXTREMELY well and than we never see her again. I was sad x.x.
            Amber Benson was one of dozens of excellent one shot guest stars on the show, but there is no reason for her character to show up again at this stage of the plot. If they wanted every good actor on the show to return just for the sake of it, they would need to stop telling Sam and Dean's story.

            Originally posted by assydingo View Post
            I guess you're right about Lilith. I still feel the show could have had more intense battles, even without big budget effects. Now that I think about it shifting to more funny epsiodes was a very wise choice in the situation. Gah, kinda wish WB died and someone else picked up Supernatural <.<.
            Sure, it would have been nice if the show wasn't restraint by the network, still they do the best they can with the means given to them. And as I said, there was no need for big battles anyway, since the plot went a completely different route. Also the sparseness of big confrontation scenes gives episodes like Jus In Bello a lot more weight.

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            • #7
              Ah! I finally finished season 3... and only a little bit late! So yah me!

              So lets talk about stuff. I will start out with the two new girls on the block!

              BELLA
              I know there is some Bella haters out there, but I say I loved her. Her first five apperances were pretty amazing. She has a sexy and sedusive mastermind and pretty much the Selina Kyle/Catwoman of Supernatural. I enjoyed watching her get her hands dirty and just her misleads and trickery. Lauren Cohan played the roll really well and made you hate her, but love her!

              Then they went and tossed all that out the window in "Time Is on My Side"... I liked the idea of her killing her parents, but it was just so random? Yeah, random is the word. And it just felt like some last minute attempt to get rid of the character. Why did she HAVE to die? I just liked Bella as a theif... It made her FAR more interesting.

              RUBY
              I will admit I didn't like her at first. She just seemed annoying, but after a few more apperances she started to grow on me - all thanks to Katie Cassidy who is really such a talented actress and brought so many levels to the series that is is upsetting she was only used 6 times. I truly fell in love with the character in the episode "Malleus Maleficarum" when we learned that she use to be a human witch and that she remembers it all. It just made me feel so much for the character and Cassidy played it so well, plus that fight scene really rocked.

              Her as Lilith was so intense! And was a great final scene for Cassidy, but just upsetting for the character. I know she is in season four, but I have a feeling that Katie Cassidy will be the ONLY ONE who cane make this role work. I mean, come, she pretty much made the role!

              She had such great chemestry with Dean and Sam that I am afraid that this new actress in season 4 is just going to rape the character...



              Now to the season. I felt it very hard to get past the first seven episodes. They just seemed to move at a slow pace "The Kids Are Alright" was a funny episode because of the little boy who was VERY Dean-like (it was just way to amusing at how he was womanizing the little girls and eating the cake!) "Fresh Blood" was also good just for the vampire-theme. Supernatural has such an interesting vampire mytho-and it rocks! Plus Mercedes McNab rocks.

              I stopped watching after "Fresh Blood" and only now have got back on the SN wagon. I finished episode 8-16 in one night and WOW! Almost every episode was perfect and just really couldn't get much better.

              "A Very Supernatural Christmas" was just so amusing and was a great look into the relationship between Dean and Sam, which is always great. I love the flashbacks of them as kids cause it just reminds you that these two have been living in such a hard world for so long that even though they bicker they still love each other and no matter what they will keep fighting for each other.

              "Malleus Maleficarum" is just great cause I love magic/witches and was really glad Supernatural took a bigger crack at it this episode. This is kind of how I wish Charmed was, looking ALOT darker and just much darker magic that looked so cool. The fight scene within the house at the end was just so intense yet so well directed for being in such a small place. Plus we got alot of information out about Lilith and it really helped move the story along (for me anyways)

              "Dream a Little Dream of Me" was a bit weaker, but still an interesting episode. It was great too see into Bobby's mind and just more about and his wife and just his life, which helped give Bobby levels. The sleep thing was a bit weird and just seemed like a bit of a stretch.

              "Mystery Spot" was amusing at first, and I feel bad for laughing at Dean's deaths. It felt like they took alot of notes from 'Dead Like Me' in funny deaths. The episode did feel a bit slow... And I personlly really disliked "Tall Tales" when the Trickster first apperaed and I still dislike him... It was cool too see Sam without Dean and it was pretty intense!

              "Jus in Bello" was another slow episode, but was pretty cool. The idea was interesting. I think the only thing that I really took away from the episode was the introduction to Lilith and just how freaking awsome it was when she blew up the place at the end! I did feel bad for the virgin though

              I really thought "Ghostfacers" would be really stupid... But was just actually really surprised at how much I liked the episode. It had so much to it that it was actually one of my favorite episodes of the series cause it really just had humor, horror and just everything! Plus it ended on such a funny joke that I couldn't not love it. I will defienitly watch this again soon cause there really is just alot to see and I bet I missed alot that I will pick up a second time.

              "Long-Distance Call" was just creepy and such a cool idea. There isn't too much to say it was a very traditional Supernatural episode that had the creepy, the action and the heart.

              "Time Is on My Side" I really have nothing more to say about this episode... I felt like it was just poorly rushed and a craptastic send off to Bella...

              And then there was "No Rest for the Wicked". Well what can I say? This was just a steller season finale. We got some really intense action and just you wanted Sam to be able to save Dean, but you kinda knew he wouldn't. Lilith was just creepy as hell... Little kids creep me out and Supernatural isn't helping... This is like the fifth episode with a creepy kid!

              The stuff with Ruby was of course wicked. I felt so bad for Sam watching Dean die... It was just so hard to watch and you REALLY wanted Sam to be able to help! But I was pretty jaw-dropped when Sam stood up aftwards and was able to just totally over powering Lilith/Ruby and I thought he was gunna stab her for sure!

              The final shot with Dean in hell was just I can't wait to start watching season four! Season three just went out with a BANG! And I hope season 4 can keep up the pace... I just hope that they are able to savage some of the crappy little mistakes they made with Ruby and Bella...


              Okay I am done! That is my season three overview you don't have to read it all ^^ but I needed to get it all out!

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              • #8
                I'm not reading any of these posts because I haven't finished Season 2 yet, so sorry if someone's already mentioned this, but you can now watch the first 8 episodes of Season 3 free on Virgin TV On Demand.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DigitalLeonardo View Post
                  BELLA
                  I know there is some Bella haters out there, but I say I loved her. Her first five apperances were pretty amazing. She has a sexy and sedusive mastermind and pretty much the Selina Kyle/Catwoman of Supernatural. I enjoyed watching her get her hands dirty and just her misleads and trickery. Lauren Cohan played the roll really well and made you hate her, but love her!

                  Then they went and tossed all that out the window in "Time Is on My Side"... I liked the idea of her killing her parents, but it was just so random? Yeah, random is the word. And it just felt like some last minute attempt to get rid of the character. Why did she HAVE to die? I just liked Bella as a theif... It made her FAR more interesting.
                  Funny how differently some things come across to different people. I thought that Bela started out as a character with potential, but the actress never really convinced me, and the character simply never fit in that well to ongoing storylines - the writers almost always had to stretch credibility to its limits to include her, and that damaged the character. It made little sense that the itinerant Winchesters would keep running into her, and even less sense that they would ever trust her in any way. The character simply had no staying power as a regularly recurring part of the Supernatural universe, although she would have worked well in less frequent recurrences, a la characters such as Henriksen or Gordon.

                  The exposition on Bela's past was a little rushed, but wasn't really random - if you go back and watch her previous appearances, you'll see that her murky past was hinted at right from the start - in fact it was an integral part of the plot in Red Sky At Morning.

                  As for why she had to die - this is Supernatural. They kill everyone!

                  RUBY
                  I truly fell in love with the character in the episode "Malleus Maleficarum" when we learned that she use to be a human witch and that she remembers it all. It just made me feel so much for the character and Cassidy played it so well, plus that fight scene really rocked.

                  She had such great chemestry with Dean and Sam that I am afraid that this new actress in season 4 is just going to rape the character...
                  About Ruby I will just say that I don't feel it is safe to take anything she says at face value. When she claims to remember her humanity and to care about humans, she is saying that in a moment when she is trying to persuade Dean to cooperate with her - and she herself admits that she is extremely manipulative. We have seen little or no evidence that she genuinely wants to help because she cares about people - only that she wants to win Sam's trust and is interested in his powers.

                  As for the new actress, well the switch was necessary. We don't know how long it took Ruby to get back from wherever Lilith sent her, but I think it is safe to say that once she had been forced out of that body, she wasn't going to get back to it while it was in any way useable. Her tactics have clearly changed, so I don't feel it is fair to judge the new actress in any way just yet until we understand more.

                  Glad you gave the season a second chance and enjoyed it so much

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