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  • Origins Issue #2

    Okay, Issue 2 of Origins is out and I have to say I am severely dissatisfied at the moment. Firstly, hating the artwork more than ever. Especially on Sam and Dean, the edgy and not very detailed drawing leaves the characters ugly and they look older than they should be. The content of this issue seems to stray more and more from canon:

    a) We have a really severe inconsistency with canon as we see John leaving Lawrence in a station wagon. Correct me if I am wrong but I distinctly remember that John was sitting on the hood of the Impala with the boys after the fire in the Pilot. So he already had it when Mary was still alive and it makes no sense that he gets it from Mary's brother in this comic.

    b) Missouri firmly stated in the first issue of the comic that the tooth they found belonged to the thing that killed Mary. Now we get to know that it's a hellhound tooth. From ?All Hell Breaks Loose Part I' we know that there was nobody but the YED around when Mary was killed, heck her demise was even only an accident. Why would the YED or any other demon (given that any demon and not only Crossroad demons can control hellhounds) send a hellhound after the kids only a couple of days later? That doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

    c) The journal that John receives from Fletcher Garble looks nowhere near like the onscreen version of the journal.

    d) From the Winchester journals we know that Mary's death was attributed to faulty wiring that caused a fire. Why would Mary's brother accuse John then to have let Mary died. Officially it was an accident. Also, we know that Mary's gravestone was set up by her uncle, a person Sam&Dean never met. Why would a distant relative put up the gravestone if her brother, who obviously was like a surrogate father to Mary (nice parallel to Dean & Sam btw), was there to take care of things? Again, that doesn't make much sense.

    e) When Jakob is attacked by the hellhound he is still alive afterwards. Now I may be wrong, but why weren't they able to bring him to a hospital. The wounds should be easily explainable to an animal attack. The killing him off seems very harsh and I don't find it very believable that John would kill his own brother-in-law on the word of a mysterious stranger, at this early stage of his hunter career, when he is still confused about the whole deal. Okay, I get that Jakob may be infected/turned, whatever, by the hellhound and was bound to die anyway, but I am not sure that I believe that John would go through with such a insane plan, like dropping him off a cliff in his car.

    So all in all I am not really sure where they want to head with this comics and they now started to really drift away from the few canon facts we know about that period of time. I am very disappointed with that.
    Last edited by galathea; 15-06-07, 07:13 PM.

  • #2
    The artwork isn't so bad as much as the coloring annoys me.

    I loved SN for it's desaturated world. I'll never forget the dissertation I gave to my husband right before watching Phantom Traveler on how amazing the cinematography and desaturated film was compared to any other show on television.

    So maybe you're saying, "Lyn, it's comics, they are all brightly colorful." Well, there's my point. Why can't the comic stand out and do something different while holding true to the show? There is no reason and is therefore a great failing. The bright colors do not add to the beauty of the story and comic. Didn't SN have this same discussion in Hollywood Babylon with the clueless executive? *sigh*

    I'm not saying there should not be colors. But just muted ranges to give a sense of stillness, contemplativeness, and absence of the living. By working in subtleties, they would have the option of later using brightness as another type of storytelling emphasis.

    Although I would have loved gorgeous renderings of the characters, I cannot balk at ugliness. The show is about a dark unpretty world and I can see such drawings as trying to emphasize that.

    However, the storyline has been an offense to me from the beginning. But comic books are usually like that retelling a story just in a new way.

    I'm interested in seeing where Origin's story is going. However, it has been neither endearing or revolutionary, so they really need to step their game up. The magazine is for die-hard fans, not introducing people to the show and they should have recognized that from the beginning.

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    • #3
      I agree with you Chris... I was disappointed with the drawings and inconsistency. Also- I thought it was Elkins that introduced John into the concept of keeping a journal- not this Gable guy. You would think the writers would keep track of what's happened on the series. Doesn't Kripe have the final say?

      I was hoping for more storylines with Missouri... or something.

      Even though- the storylines doesn't really tie in with the series very well, I still am interested in the next issue. Hopefully, it'll get better.
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      • #4
        All right, I'm a little lost here...what is Origins? Is it a SN comic, because I've never heard of it before? Is it something that can be viewed online, or is something I have to leave my comfy computer and go out and buy? LOL...I am lazy about that...
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        • #5
          Yep, Origins is a Supernatural comic - it is basically a prequel for the series, telling the story of how John became a hunter, and how he coped with the combination of learning to hunt and raising two small children.

          However, the continuity from what we already know of that period from the show has been very poor do far

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          • #6
            Who is putting this comic out? The creators of the show, or somebody who just wanted to make money off of it? Like a lot of the Buffy/Angel books that you find in the dollar stores that have nothing to do with Joss?
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            • #7
              It is supposed to be coming from the creators of the show, in the same was that the season 8 BtVs comics do. So there's really no excuse for the poor continuity or departure from established canon. :confused2:

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LRae12 View Post
                Who is putting this comic out? The creators of the show, or somebody who just wanted to make money off of it? Like a lot of the Buffy/Angel books that you find in the dollar stores that have nothing to do with Joss?
                Just go to your local comic book store and see if they have it. If not, you can ask them to order it. That's what I do or I go to a site that sells comic books but its more costly cuz of shipping and handling. I don't know of one that sells Origins. I tend to read the Buffy/Angel comics but that's about it (from a site called Things from Another World)...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LRae12 View Post
                  Who is putting this comic out? The creators of the show, or somebody who just wanted to make money off of it? Like a lot of the Buffy/Angel books that you find in the dollar stores that have nothing to do with Joss?
                  The comic is supervised by one of the shows producers. The writers and Kripke themselves have no creative influence on the comic though as far as I know. It was supposed to tie in with canon, but so far it does a poor job in that regard, in fact, I stopped considering it canon already since it strayed severely from canon facts.

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                  • #10
                    Ok, thanks for the info...it doesn't sount like they're too worth the time and effort to find, though...especially if they don't keep up with continuity...that's my biggest pet peeve w/shows.

                    Thanks again for the info, everyone!
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