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    Okeydokey as this show hit U.K Terestrial T.V for the first time last night i though i would start a thread for the people on this side of the pond as well as for those who have maybe just found it.

    My first impressions? Well i thought it was very interesting if a little bitty. I think the jumping around from character to character took a bit of getting used to and maybe would have preferred a single character centric aproach to the eps.

    Overall though i was very impressed. My faves so far are Hiro (which probably everyone says) the mirror woman (can't remeber her name) and Claire. How much is Claire Buffy by the way. The comparisons were amazing but i can tell i'm gonna like her.

    Anyone else catch it last night?
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    I caught the first two eps on the Beeb this week, too

    It's early days yet, but I like what I've seen so far. I liked the concept, felt engaged with the characters, and am intrigued enough to keep watching.

    So, a strong beginning - I hope the rest of the season continues in the same vein

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    • #3
      I hope Peter jumps of a tall building and falls splat. Bor. Ring. But I heart Claire, Hiro, Peter and Hiro's mate...Anders? Something like that.

      It's fun and silly. Wish they'd lose the voiceover and the dull characters...but at least that gives you a chance to go and make a cup of tea.

      Oh, and Niki (and Ikin the mirrorbitch) is also interesting, with her smart brat boy (who's miraculously NOT annoying, so calling him brat is all in affection).


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      • #4
        Ikin! You're reading TWOP

        Hiro's friend is Ando.
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        • #5
          Hmm started this and not caught up. Bad me!

          Well after three more eps things are certainly starting to get interesting. Peter has gone, for me, from one of the most boring of the heroes to perhaps the most interesting of the lot of them. (still loving Hiro though).

          It's also nice to see those seperate threads coming together and the characters paths crossing more and more as the story develops. It strikes me as almost being Lost in reverse. There you have various people thrown together and through flashbacks connections and secrets are slowly reveealed. Here we have that coming together, that overlapping of lives from the start but we don't, as yet, know where it's all going.

          Overall i would have to say that after what i thought was a slowish start i'm definitely getting drawn in.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by tangent View Post
            ... (still loving Hiro though).
            Subarashii, yo - isn't he splendid! Ando too, "Use the death grip, Spock, the death grip ..." Inneresting to see how the international thang works for a US hit series - the comic (at times literally comicbook) Japanese, very cute and not only parsecs away from the national characteristics that presumably made dropping an atomic bomb on the civilian population an absolute necessity a few years back, but - have I got it right? - he's using all those super-hiro powers to stop the destruction of NY? If he doesn't get a B-plot where he time travels back and stops Hiroshima suffering the same fate, I'm going to write in ... the actor who plays Hiro, MO, sounds a bit too californian to raise the issue himself, bless. Not too sure about how the other "internationalism" is going down - I've got strong links with Japan but not, say, India?

            ... It strikes me as almost being Lost in reverse. There you have various people thrown together and through flashbacks connections and secrets are slowly reveealed. Here we have that coming together, that overlapping of lives from the start but we don't, as yet, know where it's all going.
            I'm finding that knitting up of plot, instead of the tendency to unravel into individual situations in "Lost," really satisfying, and the use of amazin' SFX to further the plotting instead of looking pretty, very pretty indeed. Previous Hiro stopping time in the subway to tell Peter(?) what Future Hiro needed - hope I've got this right, I always arrive 10 minutes after it starts - nice.

            Surely the "cheerleader" is Buffy? Didn't Joss do the little blonde Valley girl into heroine in that BtVS thing?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by ferdy-m View Post
              I'm finding that knitting up of plot, instead of the tendency to unravel into individual situations in "Lost," really satisfying, and the use of amazin' SFX to further the plotting instead of looking pretty, very pretty indeed. Previous Hiro stopping time in the subway to tell Peter(?) what Future Hiro needed - hope I've got this right, I always arrive 10 minutes after it starts - nice.
              Other way round 'Twas FutureHiro stopping time to give Peter the info he needed to pass onto PresentHiro...all very complicated.

              I've been really interested to see how polarised opinions of this show seem to be. Some people rave about it, others seem to get bored and give up very early on, usually citing too many characters and complicated plot as their reason. Me, I'm finding the characters engaging enough so far, not having any trouble keeping up with them all, and the storyline is holding my interest. I'm very impressed by the interweaving storylines of the various characters so far.

              I haven't really attached to any of the characters yet, and long-term I do tend to need at least one character that I'm deeply attached to, who will keep me watching no matter what. But I do care about finding out what happens to them all, which counts for a lot. Plus, it's got the thrill factor of moments like Nathan shooting off into the sky and going supersonic last night, which was very cool and delighted me muchly on a highly superficial level. Now that Peter has more information and has hooked up with Isaac in search of answers, I'm engaging with him more and being less distracted by his silly hair and droopy mouth. Policeman Matt's wife is distracting me instead because I remember her from her Home & Away days, back when she had an Australian accent. Hiro isn't bugging me as much as he did at first, although his cute-as-a-button shtick is getting old. So yeah, so far so good. I look forward to seeing how it all unravels.

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              • #8
                So what do we reckon of the last couple of weeks then?

                To me things are starting to bubble up nicely now. I want to know just exactly whats happened to isaac of course after the evil neighbours visit and Mohinder's got to come back hasn't he? Hasn't he?

                Anyway nikki is becoming more and more interesting in my book specially now we know Jessica's name and a little bit more about how that works (smashing the mirror a way to make sure Nikki can't get back?). But probably the characterthat's growing on me most is matt. Really interesting power to explore without it being earthshaking and the scene with the dying woman was really tender.

                The other big hit for me in the last couple of weeks was the appearance of our own Forest Gates as D.L. Buffy Alumni are always good to spot in other progs and with ASH doing the commentry on Heroes Unmasked i'm happy as.

                Just one point though the radioactive man can't be Sylar can he? not seriously? My guess is that he might just be
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                • #9
                  I hope Peter jumps of a tall building and falls splat.
                  wish granted, well sorta anyway.

                  To me this weeks ep was the best so far. Claire was excellent in this ep i feel really engaging and quite vulnerable but still feisty and her growing sense of real identity is refreshing and again very reminiscent of another cheerleader with a destiny i seem to remember.

                  There was a nice sense of tension as the different parties coverged on the high school and just about every scene after Sylars first attack was already familliar because of isaacs paintings which i felt added to that tension. Mind you as soon as peter and sylar fell i pretty much guessed at the get out clause so the reveal on that wasn't qiuite as powerful. Peter still seems a bit too much of a dreamer to me and i felt more could be made of the other plotlines with nothing really new coming from Hiro or Nikki's predicaments right till the end. Overall though i thought the ep was nicely paced and had more action in it than some.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tangent View Post
                    Mind you as soon as peter and sylar fell i pretty much guessed at the get out clause so the reveal on that wasn't qiuite as powerful.
                    Oh, I'd twigged that one much earlier in the episode, pretty much as soon as I realised Peter and Claire were actually going to meet, so there was no power in that scene at all for me - I'd been waiting for it for most of the episode!

                    This has developed into one of those shows that I'm happy to follow from week to week, but feel no urge to dissect and discuss. Funny how that works out with different shows, huh.

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                    • #11
                      I must say as I'm watching 'Heroes' the whole way through, I'm really not finding any of the characters lovebale or people I can connect with. I'd seen quite a lot of the show already but never have I watched it all in order so I thought I would to give it a chance, but still zilch for me. I find some of them interesting, but not likeable, the most likeable being Claire who is so much like Buffy I think is why I like her the most. I'm of one few who cannot stand Hiro at all! I'm so sick of his 'loveable' quirks, he is just annoying the hell out of me, I find his character so unbelieveable for a man of his age to be acting as immature as this.

                      Heroes is keeping me interested, I am enjoying it but do feel that thus far it is going downhill rather than getting better, hopefully it will puck up towards the end through. I thought the first episode was the best thus far and cannot work out if Claire can actually feel pain or not? One minute she'll his and say ow and then the next she'll close up her body after cut open without so much as a flinch?

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                      • #12
                        Just watched Six Months later...as mogs says, I am enjoying it, but it's not carrying me off in its arms and making sweet love to me (ok, that's not what he said, but I'm extrapolating with unecessarily smutty imagery). There's something a little stilted about it for me, in terms of the characters. I think it's partly the fault of the framing stuff, which I don't like (cf thread on heroes is it really any good), but also some of the acting is a little...cold, perhaps?

                        I do love Nathan and Hiro actually...but some of the leads, especially Peter, get up my nose a bit, so I find my interest ebbing and flowing so that I'll be really into it for some sections, then turning off for others.


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                        • #13
                          I actually really liked last nights eppy. Loved the introduction of Sylar and think he makes a suitably creepy but strangely empathic villain (and can totally see him as spock)

                          It was a little bit back and forth in places as it tends to be and i'm really quite sad that Charlie wont be with us in the future. Having said that i thought the story between Hiro and Charlie was fantastic and really quite moving. Now that the big reveal of sylar has happened I really want to know a bit more about Lindemann.

                          Regarding the framing, whilst i agree that on occasions it can be distracting i quite like the comic book feel overall and the coldness for me is because we're not really focusing on characters up close at any point. i mean last night ended on a very emotional moment bt i just now that it will be pretty much ignored next week whilst we focus back on to claire or peter or nikki. They all have stories to tell of course but a bit more continuity would probably make for a better connection with the characters.
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                          • #14
                            I've now watched up to Ep 14 and the show is still holding my interest, so that must mean something. I think the show does rely heavily on the wow factor though, and not the characters. They are always giving us the big "oh" moments to keep our interest, I guess if it works it works and it has worked on me because I'm downloading the rest of the season now before season two starts here in Aus in a couple of weeks. Because as of yet I can't emotionally connect with any of the characters I don't think it will be a show I can ever really discuss in depth. Though it is a show I can find enjoyable for pure entertainment and there are parts of it that are well done.

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                            • #15
                              I was very impressed with last nights double bill. Nathan geetin a bit more involved at last is a good thing in my book and Claire, Nikki and Hiro all had nice amounts of screen time. I'm a little bit gutted about Eden 'cos she was a very interesting character as well as being a lovely lady and i'm not sure about nikki's arc taking her to prison. Also i could have done with a bit more sylar here but once again we seem to have a situation where a character is buit up over the last episode and then they don't do a huge amount twith them in the next.

                              I was looking forward to last night though as the T.V guide mentione the arrival of a certain mr Ecclestone. Now although we didn't really get a look at him until the end of the second ep his character does look very interesting indeed.

                              Plot wise i think i'm beginning to see where we're headed here but i'm not blase enough not to expect a few twists along the way. Probably the most interesting development last night apart from CE was the Haitian helping out Claire, which was interesting to say the least.

                              Anyways onwards and upwards, eh?
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                              • #16
                                This still isn't a show I'm connected to on any kind of emotional level - hasn't hit my list of 'must see TV' - and yet I've yet to miss an episode. I find I'm really enjoying just watching the story unfold, without being too troubled about trying to second-guess it in any way, or worrying too much about the fate of any particular character. It's a lot of fun. Great entertainment value - certainly makes me giggle a lot

                                Since the intersection of the lives of the various Heroes seems to be half the point of the show, it's fascinating to watch those intersections (and near misses) unfold week by week. A bit like watching a spider weaving a web, just waiting to find out what the final pattern will be.

                                Is it wrong of me to admit that I liked Isaac better when he was a hopeless junkie than I do now he's shiny and healthy?

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                                • #17
                                  Well he does look a bit wierd clean shaven. Dudes got a funny chin.

                                  Had to post agin though 'cos i forgot my favourite bit. Nathan correcting Hiro's pronunciation. Made me laugh that did.
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                                  • #18
                                    My fave bit was Hiro going on about flying man and doing is swoop gesture to Nathan. When Nathan shushes him, he makes a slightly smaller swoopy gesture. So cute!

                                    Loving Claire. Still hating Peter (the actor looks like he's had a stroke, the way he does that funny lip curl thing). Nathan great. Mohinder...perfect time for a loo break, since there aren't any ads on BBC2...can't wait for Peter to explode!


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                                    • #19
                                      I find I'm fonder of Peter now than I used to be. I enjoy him with other people, I've discovered. Like how I liked his scenes with Isaac, and I've decided that I like his scenes with Nathan, as well, because their family is so dysfunctional, in that special TV way...like how Peter's brand of bratty youngest child rebellion was to become a lowly hospice nurse, because no amount of bad behaviour could possibly piss his family off more than taking up a low-paid vocational career. And how Nathan gets so frustrated with Peter, in that special way that only a bossy older sibling can, and generally always comes through for him while making it clear that it's extremely inconvenient for him. That always tickles me in all the right places.

                                      So...this show gets me in all the right amusement places, even if I'm still lacking the emotional connection.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Llywela View Post
                                        And how Nathan gets so frustrated with Peter, in that special way that only a bossy older sibling can, and generally always comes through for him while making it clear that it's extremely inconvenient for him. That always tickles me in all the right places.
                                        I think that's why I like Nathan so much - he does the right thing so reluctantly. Good guys who are too keen about it get up my nose. Or perhaps I can't relate to them? I like the "oh, go on then, if I must" school of heroes.


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