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    So………… I was watching Buffy and I was telling myself how I loved all the characters and how each character brought something to the show. But I was wondering do any of you feel that a character should have or shouldn’t been in the show. The characters that didn’t make a different? I say I liked all the character even if I hated them.
    What do you guys feel?
    Last edited by Dark Ages; 08-06-08, 11:30 PM.
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  • #2
    I think that Andrew is useless in season 7. He had no big role, and other characters could've joked a little bit more ... so no need for Andrew.

    And about a character that should've hade a bigger role ... Darla. She deserved more and better scenes, she was Angel's sire and one of the most dangerous vampires ever.

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    • #3
      Hmm let me see, THE POTENTIALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The most useless thing ever to be on my beloved show. All they did was take up space but didn't do anything worth while. As for specific characters, uh... Kennedy, Rona, Amanda (although she was the one I could tolerate), Chloe, etc...... Yeah horrible waste of space imo. I think all of the main characters were sort of useful. Maybe not Dawn though. I could've gone not ever seeing her or even having her character exists at all to be honest.
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      • #4
        I agree with the Potentials being completely useless... that whole story line frustrates me...

        I liked Andrew. He was the only character that really made me laugh towards the end, and seeing as Xander wasn't really given the chance to dish it out, and Willow had gone through such a change, Andrew was a much-needed relief.

        And I'll probably have stones thrown at me for this... but Dawn was useless for me. I hated her the first time around, and now that I've watched every season over and over again, I've warmed up to her, slightly. I just didnt like how the show progressed once her character was introduced. I didnt like Buffy's growth from young adult into the necessary Mother figure/sister. Granted, I like some of the story lines that came as a result of Dawn's entrance on to the show... and she did have her moments. But the show as a whole just changed, and not always for the best. So my feelings towards Dawn was bittersweet. Maybe if they had found a different actress? I dunno.
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        • #5
          Lets see, First off in Season 7 Andrew, And all of the potentials that were introduced after the first 3 arrived with giles.
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          • #6
            The idea of the Potentials I think was a good one. But most were so incredibly annoying I couldn't stand them. The few I thought were kinda likable died early on. And they chose to give the most screen time to the most annoying. Would've been nice if they could have wrote in some sort of a safe house or something to keep them in other than Buffy's house, so there'd be the excuse of not having to see them all the time and get some solid alone time for the core characters.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sacred Knight View Post
              The idea of the Potentials I think was a good one. But most were so incredibly annoying I couldn't stand them. The few I thought were kinda likable died early on. And they chose to give the most screen time to the most annoying. Would've been nice if they could have wrote in some sort of a safe house or something to keep them in other than Buffy's house, so there'd be the excuse of not having to see them all the time and get some solid alone time for the core characters.
              YOU! I agree with you. I liked he potenials, I like seeing new faces and dferent personalities. I also agree on the fact that they killed off all the potentials that i actually liked. The ones that stayed behind was annoying and thought they were the sh**. I came to a person that is usless in Buffy, Dawn (except season7). I just didnt like her that much. I think they should have made the key someone else or something else. The big reason i didnt like Dawn was because she was big baby and cried about everything.
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              • #8
                Andrew Bad

                Robin Bad

                Dawn bad

                Kennedy Bad Bad BAD!

                Willow was quite happy to mourn poor Tara !

                At the time many willow supporters were like " willow wasn't really gay it was just tara" let's get her back with a guy maybe OZ!
                So Joss quickly dumped her in with kennedy BAD to prove she was gay.
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                • #9
                  Well, I'd say the first group of Potentials was ok, but the others that came after, I don't think it was necessary to bring so many to the show!

                  Also, I wasn't a big fan of Kennedy, Willow didn't needed another girlfriend to cope with Tara's death. Not yet anyway.
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                  • #10
                    Um, Andrew was useless in Season 7.

                    Robin Wood was also useless in Season 7.

                    Kennedy, Rona, etc. were all useless in Season 7.

                    Graham was useless in Season 4.

                    I loved them, but the Knights of Whatchamacallit in Season 5 were pretty useless. They were awesome and entertaining, but not needed.

                    Hard to find more *thinks hard*

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                    • #11
                      A tribute to buffy that that's all you can think of

                      Remind me someone Who was Graham? Thx
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Revan View Post
                        A tribute to buffy that that's all you can think of

                        Remind me someone Who was Graham? Thx
                        Graham was Riley's friend in Season 4. He was in episodes like "The Initiative". He was always with Riley and Forrest, but he didn't really talk or wasn't opinionated like Forrest, so he was really just....there.

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                        • #13
                          I think the idea behind the potentials was good on paper but executed poorly in season seven. I think season 8 has found the right balance. There's lots of slayers around but they've been written far better and they deal with maybe two or three (mainly two) and give them relationships with the Scoobies. Whereas in season seven they simply detracted from screen time with the Scoobies rather than really giving them anything interesting to work with.

                          We've have Renee and Satsu in season 8 and both have been given personal relationships with Xander and Buffy and to some extent Willow. They're far more likeable than their season seven counterparts as well, so I personally actually liked having them around. And then you've got characters like Leah and Rowena who have nice personalities but don't detract from the story. We get glimpses of them every now and then like we did at 'Wolves At The Gate' but they've never stealing 'panel time' from Buffy/Xander/Willow.

                          It's a pity they couldn't have handled it better in season seven. I'm not sure why they were written so horrible? But then again, so were most of the Scoobies that season.

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                          • #14
                            The potentials were terrible and they ruined the show. Buffy didn't get the end it deserved because of them. Andrew was sometimes funny, but if they had just given the core four the screen time they deserved, that comic relief wouldn't have been necessary anyway.

                            Um... Scott Hope? Some of Dawn's friends came and went kind of lamely. The Anointed One. Kennedy = hate. But most of the extraneous characters were amusing enough that I didn't mind (like Harmony). Or they were minor characters in the verse that were used really well when called upon (like Larry or Jonathan pre-season four).

                            I never really liked Kendra. The accent annoyed me to no end, and there were serious holes in her story.

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                            • #15
                              Kendra dislike seconded - her accent pissed me off no end - if you want someone to sound Jamaican - make sure they can do a Jamaican accent!!

                              Also Molly. Seriously, was she meant to be English? No wonder every American I meet has such a distorted view of what our accent is supposed to be like. Molly sounded like she was from 17th century England!

                              Edit: Much love for Andrew, I adore him!

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by DoughnutHole View Post
                                And I'll probably have stones thrown at me for this... but Dawn was useless for me. I hated her the first time around, and now that I've watched every season over and over again, I've warmed up to her, slightly. I just didnt like how the show progressed once her character was introduced. I didnt like Buffy's growth from young adult into the necessary Mother figure/sister. Granted, I like some of the story lines that came as a result of Dawn's entrance on to the show... and she did have her moments. But the show as a whole just changed, and not always for the best. So my feelings towards Dawn was bittersweet. Maybe if they had found a different actress? I dunno.
                                No stone-throwing from me! I didn't like Dawn either. Way too whiny and needy. Being a teenager to my mind is not an excuse, I have seen several normal non-whiny teenagers. Also, isn't it that all the serious situations both Dawn and Buffy faced, should have made her to be actually more grown-up when compared to other teenagers? But she seemed worse.
                                Someone in this forum said that Dawn should have jumped from that tower in the end of S5. They could still have done the depression stroryline for Buffy. And let's face it, Dawn had nothing to do in either S6 and S7. I really do think so, too.
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                                • #17
                                  Kennedy - Faith could have worked as the one to disagree with Buffy and challenged her. Kennedy was irritating. Would rather have had Oz back with Willow if she had to have a love interest. Too bad Seth wasn't able to come back.

                                  Robin Wood was never a favorite. He was nothing more than a character to give the main characters a reason to do somethings. More of a prop than anything.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by kudagirl View Post
                                    Robin Wood was never a favorite. He was nothing more than a character to give the main characters a reason to do somethings. More of a prop than anything.
                                    I actually liked Wood up until the whole thing with him and Giles vs. Buffy and Spike. I thought he would have made a fun love interest for Buffy. All of those scenes where the writers toyed with us Robin/Buffy shippers just made me want them to make the two of them an item. It probably wouldn't have worked but still. I think for the last season it would've been fun for Buffy to actually have an adult relationship outside of college that didn't have to do with Spike or Angel. Plus he was a slayers son, that would've been sort of sweet for the two of them to become a couple.
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                                    • #19
                                      It would have been terrible to put Willow back with Oz. You can't just make a character gay and then go "oops, j/k everyone!" It's not realistic and it would have been really offensive to a lot of people. Joss would never go for it, and it would be a total retcon.

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                                      • #20
                                        Pretty much all the characters introduced in season 7 people are saying were uneeded and I agree. To much time was spent playing around with two many new characters at once ( Kennedy, Wood, Andrew) nothing against the characters but to many at once.

                                        The main reason that people like them less than other characters is that they are forced.

                                        They were mainly used as props.

                                        The potentials were good but two much time was spent getting to know them at the expense of everyone else. Only kennedy should have been developed
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