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    How much do we know about the original characters
    named Renee and Satsu?

    List their personality traits and character background
    but you can't use Georges Jeanty's artistic references and
    drawings. You can only go by dialogue and actual plot
    sequences, nothing else.

  • #2
    Nothing! Because they are BORING!!!

    I'll look through the issues tomorrow. lol

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    • #3
      Ok I'll start with;

      Satsu:

      Satsu is someone, who IMO has a big inferiority complex. She's a girl who ends up grasping onto her worth as a slayer to justify her worth as a person. Very early on we've seen she isn't bold and brave in the sense of 'coming out.' I get the impression she may have hid not only her feelings for Buffy but her sexuality from the group as well. Nevertheless she didn't want anyone to know about her feelings for Buffy and when it's revealed Buffy does know in 'A Beautiful Sunset' she feels like she'll be "kicked out" because of it. I think this could suggest a number of things about her background, a lot of it speculation, so I won't go through it here as I think you're looking more for the cold hard facts. We also see extreme situations of Satsu feeling ashamed of herself, a big example of this being when she couldn't help Buffy against Twilight and later when she feels like Buffy is kicking her out of her bedroom and instead of kicking up a fuss, just does it. Emotionally I think she's rather weak, however she grabs onto her superiority as a slayer as something she values and needs to protect.

      Throughout the season we've seen Buffy evaluate her worth as a slayer, she's part of the Alpha team, she's chosen as Buffy's second in the attempt to resuce Willow, and Buffy tells her she could lead this crew some day as well. It appears to me as if Satsu's held onto all of that as precious, it's something that gives her the strength to reject Buffy's order not to bring her to the battle field against Toru and his gang in 'Wolves At the Gate.' Issue's earlier she was too emotionally weak to stand up for herself in the bedroom but can get up the courage to do so when it effects her role as a slayer later on. It gives her strength, and also probably played on why she felt as horrible as she did in 'A Beautiful Sunset' when Twilight took her out so easily. It also ends up giving her the courage to basically appoint herself the leader of the slayers in Tokyo, telling Buffy to think of it as a promotion.

      Satsu's abilities as a slayer is her strength, she uses them to be empowered whilst emotionally she's certainly not the strongest of people. A lot like Faith actually.

      Renee:

      The most obvious of things associated with her character is that she's fallen for Xander. From the very first issue of the season we see the flirtatious nature between the two of them as they banter about Nick Fury. And very early on we've seen she's the type of person who'll attempt to win someone's affections by having an interest in all the things they're interested in. She'd had a sudden interest in dry walling and comic books and in an attempt to please Xander she nominates herself and another slayer for the "graveyard shift." Straight away I get the sense that she's the type of person who'll do anything to please someone in order to get closer to them. And also shows a keen interest in learning about that other person, which in contrast to Buffy who only ever did this with Angel in 'Halloween' she's very different in that regard.

      I also get a sense of the 'slayer pride' in Renee much like I do in Satsu. Only I don't think Renee holds onto it as a life line like Satsu does. It reminds me a lot of the alternative cover for 'The Chain' with the Buffy poster saying "I choose you to be strong!" plastered against the wall, and the adoration we see most slayers have for Buffy. None of them want to mess up, they take their role as a slayer very seriously, and Renee's no exception. She's down and depressed when fighting the Zombie army she's impaled with a sword and later feels like Xander may just be on the look out with her because she messed up when the army attacked back in 'The Long Way Home.' So very much like Satsu she takes her job seriously, I suspect most of the girls in Buffy's command do. And nominating herself for the graveyard shift also gives the impression she thinks a good slayer will impress not only Buffy but Xander as well.

      In stark contrast to desperately wanting to please Xander before their relationship started, once she's got her claws into them she becomes far more bold. And I don't mean that in a negative way at all. But when she's got confirmation that Xander returns her feelings she can be her own person. She tells Xander she's not leaving him with Dracula in 'Wolves At The Gate' and tells Xander it isn't a date in the following issue. Which indicates she isn't one for making a move against someone most likely out of fear for rejection but once she's got confirmation that the person returns her feelings she's able to relax and generally, she's quite a strong-willed, commanding person. Also quite confident as well, she relished the role she played as a helpless girl to capture the vampire, with a big grin on her face and over-the-top acting. Generally, she’s quite a fun person to be around.

      And in her dying moments of course we got that line about her never being able to tell Xander. It suggests she was either in love with him, or maybe a mole. The traits I’ve associated with her character in my eyes points towards the idea she could indeed be a mole. She’s a kind of person who will attempt to please someone she needs to get close to and is also willing to learn more about them to do so. Again purely speculative, but I think she’s capable of being someone who could infiltrate an organisation if needn’t be.

      I didn't list because I find it hard to list any character's attributes without dissecting them into paragraphs.

      Though can I ask why we aren't allowed to use what we've seen in the panels as further information? What we see on screen or panel has always been extremely important to grasping a character's traits and personality? It'd be kind of like saying we had to ignore the scene of Willow breaking down and crying in 'Consequences' because there is no dialogue, when it's extremely telling of her character.
      Last edited by vampmogs; 06-06-08, 06:22 AM.

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      • #4
        Leah:

        She's Irish. She's confident and views herself as the best out of them all. In issue 4 she was quite disappointed that Buffy chose Satsu to tag along and save Willow when she should have chosen someone better (herself I assume). She's also shap-sighted: she knew that Satsu was Buffy's favorite and she knew that Dawn's boyfriend was a Thricewise. She's also sarcastic and a great fighter.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sosa lola View Post
          Leah:

          She's Irish. She's confident and views herself as the best out of them all. In issue 4 she was quite disappointed that Buffy chose Satsu to tag along and save Willow when she should have chosen someone better (herself I assume). She's also shap-sighted: she knew that Satsu was Buffy's favorite and she knew that Dawn's boyfriend was a Thricewise. She's also sarcastic and a great fighter.
          Is she the one with the long hair? I thought she was Scottish! She is isn't she? I find the accents on the new slayers very irritating. That German chick with the short hair, too.

          Anyway, Leah has big hair and is, I believe, Scottish. That's about all I know about her.

          Satsu is subtle and considerate. And her hair isn't quite as awesome as Buffy thinks, but she's intelligent and mature - more emotionally mature than Buffy in some respects, I think. Certainly more in touch with what she needs and with what other people need. She's a little shy at times but can be bold sometimes too.


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          • #6
            Sorry, you're right, she's Scottish. *hits self*

            I think Leah is an interesting character and hope they explore her more, but I have to agree that her accent is annoying.
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            • #7
              Whats wrong with her accent?

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