Regarding episode "Him"

[SarahRegi]

did any of you feel that episode was kind of cheesy or rather unnecessary?
i don't know about you guys but i just didn't feel it connected at all to other episodes. it was slightly funny and all but i just felt like they just threw it in

[KingofCretins]

It was a light-hearted episode, and I thought it was very fun. No complaints about episodes rich with eye candy, either.

It's pretty common in the Buffyverse for Joss to set up very emotionally challenging episodes with something light-hearted.

"Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" before "Passion", "Go Fish" before "Becoming", "The Zeppo" before "Bad Girls", "Something Blue" before "Hush", "I Was Made to Love You" before "The Body", "Him" before "Conversations with Dead People", "Smile Time" before "A Hole in the World" (Angel Season 5).

[SarahRegi]

for some reason I personally felt this episode specifically was off in some way. all those other episodes yo mentioned i actually like and love. it's this one "Him" that gets me. i guess it's just me.

[Dorian's Kitten]

Him is particularly hard to watch, what with the intensely lame fighting over a boy thing. But it does have it's moments. I would keep the episode just for the scene we see through Principal Wood's window with Buffy and Spike.

[KingofCretins]

Fighting over the rocket launcher was great. Xander herding cats with Spike there at the end was great.

[SarahRegi]

Him is particularly hard to watch, what with the intensely lame fighting over a boy thing. But it does have it's moments. I would keep the episode just for the scene we see through Principal Wood's window with Buffy and Spike.

that scene i think saves it for me jaja that was hilarious. it was just so "ehhh" but humorous (still feeling the awkwardness though)

[ThePoet's<3]

did any of you feel that episode was kind of cheesy or rather unnecessary?
i don't know about you guys but i just didn't feel it connected at all to other episodes. it was slightly funny and all but i just felt like they just threw it in

You know SarahRegi - it does seem a bit "cheesy" as an episode, but one thing I noticed over the years is how the episodes begin to "flow". It may just be me, but it seems the writers/creators always "threw" one of these episodes in when the storyline was beginning to get serious. Almost like giving the viewer a "break" from the story - w/o completely breaking storyline.

"Gone" is a good example. When everything seems so serious after Buffy's return from the dead - you suddenly have this episode.

Him is particularly hard to watch, what with the intensely lame fighting over a boy thing. But it does have it's moments. I would keep the episode just for the scene we see through Principal Wood's window with Buffy and Spike.

Fighting over the rocket launcher was great. Xander herding cats with Spike there at the end was great.

The window scene is particulary hilarious! It's the second pass by the window with Buffy in hot pursuit that makes me laugh!

[bishopcruz]

For me it is the Giant price tag on the Bazooka. Didn't catch it the first time. When I did, I ****ing DIED!!!!!!!!!

As far as the episode goes though. I loved it. I love a lot of Early s7, probably through CWDP. Afterwards the season seems to go downhill.

To me this episode was a great reminder of the Buffy I loved from S1-3, it was lighthearted, and fun as all hell.

[Wolfie Gilmore]

I really enjoyed Him. Especially the expression on Willow's face when Anya inadvertantly suggests turning Him into a her. And the visit Xander and Spike pay to the now-pathetic former jock. In a season whose tone errs on the portentous, a light-hearted ep was necessary.

There's a price tag on the bazooka? WICKED!

[tangent]

The bazooka scene is lol funny, really good.

I don't have too much of a problem with 'him' at all. Yes it's light hearted hnd has its silly moments (lets not forget 'his physical presence has apenis!', or xanders complicated plan to get the jacket). As with a lot of this type of ep though, it actually carries quite a serious point. Dawn laying herself in front of the train is a great little forshadowing of 'potential' . In this one scene the ep confronts dawns sense of ordinariness in the face of the peole that surround her.

Personally this is one of the reasons i love the show, the way that the darkest eps will always carry some moment to make you laugh and the silliest some moments to make you think.

[Dorian's Kitten]

Nice point about acknowledging Dawn's very real insecurities amongst the spell-caused craziness.

The scene where Xander and Spike go to talk with the former high school football star is a great geek revenge moment. Anyone who didn't exactly peak until after high school has had the little fantasy where they discover the former jocks and cheerleaders are now complete losers.

[ThePoet's<3]

Nice point about acknowledging Dawn's very real insecurities amongst the spell-caused craziness.

The scene where Xander and Spike go to talk with the former high school football star is a great geek revenge moment. Anyone who didn't exactly peak until after high school has had the little fantasy where they discover the former jocks and cheerleaders are now complete losers.

Very true!! Also I always notice when Spike is looking around in the house as the jock is telling his story to Xander, he comes to a shelf with a small collection of "angels". He looks at them and then turns one away from him to face the wall. I'm always caught in that moment. I think it's meant to be mildy commical but is again one of those moments in this fun episode that may share some insight.

It's just an interesting moment for me.

[KingofCretins]

That kind of thing sounds like it was probably James on the day. I doubt it was meant as an on the nose reference to Angel, probably more a nod to, y'know, he's a vampire. Newly reensouled and feeling irony in it. And crazy.

[ThePoet's<3]

That kind of thing sounds like it was probably James on the day. I doubt it was meant as an on the nose reference to Angel, probably more a nod to, y'know, he's a vampire. Newly reensouled and feeling irony in it. And crazy.

Ah yes, let's not miss an "and crazy" vampire! LOL!

I usually take it to reflect how he is dealing with the new soul. But it's something that catches my attention each time I watch the episode. Like in Tabula Rasa when Dawn calls Xander - Alex.

[Willow's Tara]

I actually liked that episode, I especially liked how Willow was gonna turn him into a girl 9Anyway wonder if she would have made him look like Tara or someone else she loved?< Kennedy wasn't in that timeframe so she doesn't count, maybe a girl Oz lol)

[TrueVengeance]

I loved this episode, actually. Especially once everyone was under that spell.

Anya: You'd have to do better then that! I'd kill for him

Willow: You'd kill for a chocolate bar

Cracks me up everytime!! And then Willow turning him into a girl, priceless. Oh, and I love the ending where Anya won't tell em' she robbed the bank...then the radio comes on. "Ice cream! My treat?!" lol!

[Nostalgia]

Definetly a light-hearted episode that is severely underrated. It's not Storyteller (possibly the funniest episode of any drama television).. but still a decent episode.

[LRae12]

Cracks me up everytime!! And then Willow turning him into a girl, priceless. Oh, and I love the ending where Anya won't tell em' she robbed the bank...then the radio comes on. "Ice cream! My treat?!" lol!

I know, that's so hysterical.

I really cracked up right off the bat though when Buffy & Dawn are watching Him in the bleachers and the classic girl in love song comes on and Dawn falls off the bleachers... I die everytime I see that!

and poor Xander, how many times is going to have to see Buffy stradling somebody? 'get off the boy Buffy, we're going home' LOL! Hysterical!

[Chosen1]

This was ONE of my favorite episodes. It's just one of those catch you out of nowhere hilarious episodes that I can't do without.

[redrevo]

I really cracked up right off the bat though when Buffy & Dawn are watching Him in the bleachers and the classic girl in love song comes on and Dawn falls off the bleachers... I die everytime I see that!

This is one of the greatest parts of the episode. They take a classic "love at first sight" scene and then smash it to bits.

Then, of course, Willow..."Man, now I'll have to start all over, Hecate hates that!" ... "I did notice that, yeah. That's why I'm doing my spell, 'cause, you know, he doesn't have to be." ... "This isn't about his physical presence, it's about his heart." Willow delivered that one perfectly, very cheesy, very angsty.

Then of course there was the mandatory scene with people fighting and the oblivious bystander looking at the exact wrong time. Normally it would be stupid, but...rocket launcher! That was also a nice continuity bit from s2.

Xander had the hardest time in this one, Spike moving into his bedroom, having to be counselor to Dawn, "get off the boy Buffy, we're going home," and having to deal with Willow and the others' crazy antics. Then he gets to draw up a foolproof plan to get the jacket...then there's the real plot advancement/problem recognition that tangent pointed out. Dawn's problems are often overlooked because "she's not really good for anything" - which is, ironically, the source of most of them.

There's one have a problem with though. Who puts on their varsity jacket in the middle of football practice? Who even brings it?