Episode ideas which you would have liked to have happened

[ykickamoocow]

I thought it would be interesting here for people to list episode idea's which they would have liked to have happened on Buffy but didnt.

My idea for a good episode is in late season 7 (after Xander gets his eyepatch). The writers had a problem with Caleb and the fact he was protecting the axe which Buffy needed. I always thought it would be a great idea for Xander to travel back in time (too about the begining of season 2) so he could find the axe at a time where Caleb wasnt protecting it. I really like this idea as it would have shown how the characters have evolved from season 2 to season 7. The reason i think Xander would be best is because he had so little air time in later seasons and the fact that when you compare season 2 Xander to season 7 Xander you do see a big difference and it would have been great to see the interaction between Season 7 Xander and Season 2 Buffy, Willow and Giles.

Anyone else got episode suggestions or comments about my idea?

[basakbangel]

Wow! Great idea, It will be fun

I'll start by saying some things about The Prom. I hated Joyce in this episode. She was just snappish! I respect that she is thinking about her daughter's life but did it change anything? Had Buffy have normal life? After Angel, didn't she date with Riley and Spike? So I don't understand the point. It was meaningless for Joyce to tell Angel to make him break-up with her. Is he a child? Doesn't he know?He cared about Buffy like Joyce. Well, I think Angel was the most mature character that I've ever seen in Jossverse. I also know, that If Joyce hadn't talk to Angel, Angel would do something for Buffy own good(and come on, then there will be no point for ATS)

But still, Buffy doesn't know that they are apart because of Joyce...

[KingofCretins]

I *love* that idea. Even cooler would have been getting Bianca Lawson to guest-star as Kendra! Reason being, they needed a Slayer to draw the weapon -- we see it handled by non-Slayers afterward, but only Buffy was able to extract it. Come up with a phlebotenous reason why Buffy or Faith or anybody else *couldn't* go, and have an episode with Xander and Kendra working together on it, with Xander having to deal with knowing what's going to happen to her but helpless to do anything. I think that would have been a great substitute for Xander not getting a conversation.

In general, I just wish they'd done an episode where Buffy and Xander kissed, even if under magical pretenses. They could have had Buffy pounce-kiss him in "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" before he could protest, or "Halloween" Buffy could have thanked her brave champion, or *something*. Basically everybody else gets a kiss to use in fanvideos!

[The_Narrator]

More Ripper pleeease! Although I understand the necessity of having incidents that trigger the Ripper 'emerging' from within Giles e.g. around Ethan, when Angelus kills Jenny etc it would have been nice to see more of the Ripper around the Scoobies, and their reactions to it. We see Giles in the end of S6, in a potentially here-comes-the-Ripper moment, but he's very calm and in control. Seeing him lose it a bit (a la 'Yes we bloody well are!') would have been very interesting around the time Buffy got kicked out of the house in S7. Perhaps if the Scoobs found out he killed Ben. He could be calm, greater good guy for a while, then just for a second, show the Ripper side of him, making them question whether Giles' ethics are completely well-intentioned. I mean, I more or less agree with him killing Ben, it was a necessity to kill Glory, but surely he could have done it more humanely, given him a few comforting words or something, not just smother the poor bloke coldly.

[sueworld]

Well apart from having an episode in season seven where all the Potentials fall down a flooded mineshaft and drown, I would have liked to have seen a story where we find out what happened to the remains of the Initiative.

In season seven we found out that some sort of 'remnant' of the old organization still existed, even though Riley no longer seemed to work for them.The whole Initiative 'gag' still fascinates me, and so I'd like to have seen it expanded on more somehow. Maybe tying in with finding out what happened to Ethan Rayne and his time spent in their 'care'.

[selenspuffy]

Interesting ideas
Well, to begin with I would have liked to see Buffy&Spike exactly dating in S7. I mean, they should have kissed and spend time just like "Touched" , but I know, then that episode wouldnt be special ,so Touched could have been the episode, where Buffy and Spike confess their love to each other

[KingofCretins]

Maybe trying in with finding out what happened to Ethan Rayne and his time spent in their 'care'.

Well, we know at least a significant part of this story as it is.

Some more explanation of the Initiative would be a little bit useful, though. I never really liked the idea of them, but what the heck, if you've got it, you might as well use it.

[sueworld]

Spoiler:

Yeah, but I for one hated how he was written out in the comics (what a waste of a great character!), and anyhoo, the mags would not have been around at the time the series was still going to it would have been a tale yet to tell.

mean, I more or less agree with him killing Ben, it was a necessity to kill Glory, but surely he could have done it more humanely, given him a few comforting words or something, not just smother the poor bloke coldly.

But it was quick. And it had to be done. Giles wasn't proud of what he did, and delt with it the only way he knew how.

[KingofCretins]

That much detail should probably be spoiler-tagged, sue.

It's worth remembering, good fans, that since the series is continuing, your non-season plot specific ideas... could all still happen!

[spuffbeste]

Interesting ideas
Well, to begin with I would have liked to see Buffy&Spike exactly dating in S7. I mean, they should have kissed and spend time just like "Touched" , but I know, then that episode wouldnt be special ,so Touched could have been the episode, where Buffy and Spike confess their love to each other

Yeah,that's the one of the things that I wanted, too ,Selen! Also, I'd like to change the episode''Entropy''. Because the idea of Anya and Spike had a short relationship sounds absurd to me... I mean, Spike always says I love you and we believe that he is really in love with Buffy. Then, he had sex with Anya... I know that Dawn came to Spike and told these things but I still can't see the point!!

What is more, I don't understand why the new slayer didn't come when she died in the episode,Gift. Ok, there is this Buffybot but when she died in Prophecy Girl, Kendra came right away!

[KingofCretins]

Joss dealt with the Slayer line question very clearly -- Buffy's death in "The Gift" didn't call another Slayer because Buffy was no longer "the Slayer of record", Faith was.

This point might belong more to the Season 7 thread, but I really wish they had not had the scoobies misunderstand that and realize that Buffy's dying had no effect on the line. Why Joss told us what the correct answer was, but didn't tell his characters, I don't understand.

[sueworld]

Why Joss told us what the correct answer was, but didn't tell his characters, I don't understand.

Probably too busy fiddling with Firefly I suspect. Another lapse in logic to add the the growing pile that made up season 7.

[KingofCretins]

Well, I don't know -- it's not like it couldn't have come up in an important context if they'd planned around it. That does tend to happen, the heroes go the whole story assuming something to be true, and at the last minute it's not, and that's a problem (Think of "The Monster Squad" -- "you're not a virgin, are you?").

Just seemed an odd thing to do nothing with.

[sueworld]

Well season seven was a creative 'mess' in places.

I remember hearing Drew Goddard at a Buffy con say that as that season progressed more an more of the 'old school' writers were packing up their stuff and leaving, leaving less experienced writers behind with nobody to ask questions to.

Joss was barely around, and so was it any wonder large ares of plot weren't fully backed up or explained.

[cheryl4ba]

Well apart from having an episode in season seven where all the Potentials fall down a flooded mineshaft and drown

I'm going to have to strongly agree with this choice of direction...could Dawn have been with them? Either way, it works for me.

[vampmogs]

I mean, I more or less agree with him killing Ben, it was a necessity to kill Glory, but surely he could have done it more humanely, given him a few comforting words or something, not just smother the poor bloke coldly.

I don't have a problem with it, seeing that Ben led Dawn to her death so that he could become a god. I personally don't think he deserved any comforting words.

But I would have liked it to have been brought up. In the 'Lies My Parents Told Me' commentary the writers said they planned to have Giles say it to Buffy in the graveyard scene but then wrote it out when they realised no one cared about stuff so long ago. I think this was one of those times the writers were so frustratingly wrong at understanding the fandom.

[Sosa lola]

Hmmm this was my brother's idea, but I thought it was cool (even though it was done before in the show, but hey, Him was a repeated idea anyway so there's no problem)]

Buffy and Xander switch bodies, much more amusing than Buffy/Faith, and it has Buffy living the life of a normal-not needed- guy, and Xander experincing the life of a supernartural -needed- slayer. This way both of them will understand how the other suffers more, and then stop complaining about wanting to be normal/wanting superpowers

[KingofCretins]

That would have been pretty entertaining. Problem is, it would have required Xander's character development having been important enough to some of the staff to write an episode around him after Season 3

[ykickamoocow]

Hmmm this was my brother's idea, but I thought it was cool (even though it was done before in the show, but hey, Him was a repeated idea anyway so there's no problem)]

Buffy and Xander switch bodies, much more amusing than Buffy/Faith, and it has Buffy living the life of a normal-not needed- guy, and Xander experincing the life of a supernartural -needed- slayer. This way both of them will understand how the other suffers more, and then stop complaining about wanting to be normal/wanting superpowers

That would have been great to see and would have been a very funny episode.

Another idea i had (which is partly stole from some fanfiction) is Buffy and Xander get hit by a energy blast and Buffy ends up inside Xander's head and is only able to talk with him. As a result of this Xander gains Buffy's slayer powers. I always thought this would be a great idea is SMG ever injured herself and wasnt able to act for a episode or 2 and it would have been really funny interaction between Buffy and Xander while she was in his head.

[Wolfie Gilmore]

Can I do an Angel one? This isn't technically a new idea, it's just the way i wish they'd done an existing episode...life of the party. I wish they'd explored Lorne's subconscious in a more interesting way. So, instead of people just doing what he told them to do, I'd like them to do what he WANTS to do, secretly...it would've been a great chance to have an insight into a character who often seems superficial, but you know (from glimpsed moments) that he does feel things strongly.

So, perhaps have Angel getting it on with Fred, because that's what Lorne secretly wants.

And the ID monster should've been nastier and more twisted, rather than Hulk like. More Joker than Hulk. Really bitchy and psychotically perverted as well as violent.