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**vampmogs** · 28-06-07, 12:40 PM

I didn't really find any of those cheesy.

I found Buffy's.. "I"m talking about watching my lover die" in Graduation Day I and Spike's.. "I'm drowing in you Summers I'm drowing in you" in Crush pretty unbearable to watch.

**KingofCretins** · 28-06-07, 12:46 PM

Mogs! I was just about to use the one from "Graduation"! That was cheesy as anything.

The line itself is kinda cheesy, but the context makes it super-goofy. Teenagers throwing around the phrase 'lover' is a bit dubious, but using it on someone you slept with once, more than a year before, which triggered one of the most miserable experiences of your life... that's ridiculous.

**vampmogs** · 28-06-07, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by KingofCretins View Post

Mogs! I was just about to use the one from "Graduation"! That was cheesy as anything.

The line itself is kinda cheesy, but the context makes it super-goofy. Teenagers throwing around the phrase 'lover' is a bit dubious, but using it on someone you slept with once, more than a year before, which triggered one of the most miserable experiences of your life... that's ridiculous.

Haha yeah I can't stand when Buffy says this it just irritates me so much. Although I find Spike's "I'm drowning in your Summers I'm drowning in you" worse because it just sounds so ridiculous coming out of his mouth. Buffy has used some irritating words in the past.. I don't like when she refers to people's partners as honeys in a serious tone.. I find that just as barf-worthy, but it kind of makes the whole lover thing to be expected when Spike's is so random.

Who wrote Crush? I want to send them an email

**tangent** · 28-06-07, 01:04 PM

The end of 'Ammends'.

Surely that has to be on of the shmaltziest bit's of cheese in the history of cheese.

I think they were aiming for warm cuddly romance but they missed by a mile for me.

**KingofCretins** · 28-06-07, 01:07 PM

The TWOP recapper for "Amends" said something like "Look, in the sky, is that snow? No, it's giant cheese anvils".

I didn't think that Buffy's rally in "Chosen" was cheesy, I just didn't understand what they were going for in that scene. The First seemed to be affected by this somehow, and it makes no sense. If it really was just a self-affirmation/pun, then, yeah, cheesy.

**vampmogs** · 28-06-07, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by tangent View Post

The end of 'Ammends'.

Surely that has to be on of the shmaltziest bit's of cheese in the history of cheese.

I think they were aiming for warm cuddly romance but they missed by a mile for me.

The whole Angel and Buffy speech was cheesy but I actually kinda liked the snow

I thought that was really well done cheese that didn't make you cringe.. unlike the argument beforehand.

**redrevo** · 28-06-07, 01:13 PM

Becoming Part 2, yes, the part right after Angel gets his soul back and everything's "jim dandy" ...

tangent is definitely right about Amends, that was just stupid. How much holding-hands-looking-at-the-snow can one person take?

Nearly the entire beginning of "Him" is really cheesy (except for Dawn falling over - I think we all wanted to see that), but I think that was the point - to make a parody of how in all action movies, all the women fall in love with the lead male character, who's brave, daring, etc...

**Wolfie Gilmore** · 28-06-07, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by tangent View Post

The end of 'Ammends'.

Surely that has to be on of the shmaltziest bit's of cheese in the history of cheese.

I think they were aiming for warm cuddly romance but they missed by a mile for me.

It's emmenthal in a stilton coulis. Yup. Cheeeeeeez. I'll be back after I've thought of my own ones (though that's right up there).

**Ojuice5001** · 28-06-07, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Nostalgia View Post

3. The ending of Underneath

Which scene do you mean by "the ending of Underneath"? Lindsey's speech about how the Apocalypse has been going on all along? Wesley and Illyria's conversation about people walling themselves in to deal with the world? I think both of those scenes are quite meaningful, especially the Wesley/Illyria one.

I notice that you, and many other people, have come up with many examples from late Season Seven. And it's true that the show did try to end on a positive, empowering note that often ended up being cheesy. On the other hand, some of it worked out all right. Like on the "Chosen" commentary, Joss says he was worried that people would find the girl playing baseball (from the activated Potentials that the screen flashes to) to be cheesy. But it turned out that a lot of people really loved that image the way they were supposed to.

As for what I think is cheesy...well, there are plenty of Bangel moments that are inevitably going to seem cheesy to me and to many others. Bangel has enough resemblance to some chick-flick romance that cheesiness just comes with the territory.

**tangent** · 28-06-07, 02:51 PM

Joss says he was worried that people would find the girl playing baseball (from the activated Potentials that the screen flashes to) to be cheesy. But it turned out that a lot of people really loved that image the way they were supposed to.

I did actually think that was extremely cheesy. So Joss was right in some cases.

**LRae12** · 28-06-07, 03:30 PM

Well, the cheesiest moment that comes to my mind is the stupid Shark in Tabula Rasa...come on!

And the playing poker for kittens....groan!

Ok, but how about in Hells Bells when the entire wedding congregation starts fighting - Buffy juggling - pretty much the entire episode, come to think of it.

And don't get me wrong, I love Oz...but the werewolf costumes were ridiculous...especially in B&the Beasts...LOL. It was like a big ball of fur hopping down the hallway after them...quite honestly, if I'd been in that situation I probably would have died from laughter, not from being mauled.

**sherrilina** · 28-06-07, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by vampmogs View Post

I didn't really find any of those cheesy.

I found Buffy's.. "I"m talking about watching my lover die" in Graduation Day I and Spike's.. "I'm drowing in you Summers I'm drowing in you" in Crush pretty unbearable to watch.

Me neither--well maybe the End of Days one...but Angel was jsut acting so OOC in that scene I wanted to puke in general!

I actually think the Spike line is okay, given his whole obsession...it was like he was drowning! The lover line is cheesy though...the only time when it's okay for her to call him lover is in Becoming Part 2, after Angelus had called her that so often, and she says "Hello, lover" when she appears and attacks!

I agree with LRae about Oz's costume, sooo fake and ridiculous!

And I know it was supposed to be cheesy but...the scene b/t Buffy and Angel in The Zeppo that Xander sees is also of course still cheesy! I too also think the Chosen montage at the end of the girls getting empowered was pretty cheesy....

I think my favorite cheesy line though is Buffy's line to Angel in Reptile Boy, "When I kiss you, I want to die!"

**KingofCretins** · 28-06-07, 04:35 PM

I *love* the scene in "The Zeppo". They knew it was cheesy, though, it was there to be cheesy... which is why it's so perfect when Xander shows up and they just stare at him, teary-eyed, patiently waiting for him to leave so they can get back to sucking

**Wolfie Gilmore** · 28-06-07, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by LRae12 View Post

Well, the cheesiest moment that comes to my mind is the stupid Shark in Tabula Rasa...come on!

And the playing poker for kittens....groan!

Ok, but how about in Hells Bells when the entire wedding congregation starts fighting - Buffy juggling - pretty much the entire episode, come to think of it.

Hmm, really? I see those egs as more kitschy/campy than cheesy. They're self-knowing, they're not trying to reach for emotion and failing (which is what I see cheese as a lot of the time...really crass depictions of what's supposed to be a deep emotion. Like US sitcoms with people hugging a lot and saying I love you mom. Which, I'm sure they do love their mom, but it's the way you phrase it and the context you say it in that creates le fromage).

**Nostalgia** · 28-06-07, 04:41 PM

Yeah I agree. The scene in "The Zeppo" is without a doubt made cheesy on purpose in order for comic relief. One of the funniest BtVS moments ever.

**Dorian's Kitten** · 28-06-07, 04:46 PM

How about the seen in season 3 Angel (not sure which episode) where Gunn and Wesley are watching Fred with the baby and they both say "Adorable" at which point Wesley claims he was talking about the baby and Gunn actually says that he was talking about the "hot mama". That one kills me. Seriously does anyone think that those are words Gunn would use and also Fred is adorable-cute-beautiful even, but hot mama? That's just cheese from can cheesy.

**holypotatoes** · 28-06-07, 04:50 PM

I know you will all probably disagree with me but I think that last part in The Prom when she gets the award for class protector is cheesy. Maybe it's the fact that if that happened to me as I was getting punch, I would pass out from embarresment if I got a bedazzled umbrella. The whole, we were never friends part made me gag a little. Another cheesy moment is when the Mayor says to Faith, "Miniature golf", can't think of the episode but that was something cheesy that made me laugh.

**Jenni Lou** · 28-06-07, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by LRae12 View Post

Well, the cheesiest moment that comes to my mind is the stupid Shark in Tabula Rasa...come on!

Yes! Me too! A loan "shark".

It's just a good ep but that just brings it down a little. Whose idea was it to go all literal on the loan shark idea anyway?! Cheesy, indeed.

**LRae12** · 28-06-07, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Jenni Lou View Post

Yes! Me too! A loan "shark".

It's just a good ep but that just brings it down a little. Whose idea was it to go all literal on the loan shark idea anyway?! Cheesy, indeed.

I know! TR is one of my favorite Buffy eps of all time, and the only real detractor was that STUPID SHARK!

BTW Jenni Lou - I just love your sig & Avatar (Chloe from 24, right?) But what's the significance of the bomb? Everytime I see this I ponder that and it's driving me crazy!

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