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    Buffy? It seems a lot of people like Willow, Xander, etc. more than her and I can understand why but Buffy remains my favorite.

    1. Emotional. While at times overdone it never seriously bothered me. Mostly because she was going through difficult things and SMG's fantastic acting.

    2. Stupid. By that I mean very generally, like she's made a lot of bad choices or doesn't do the intelligent thing. I'd argue that the intelligent thing isn't always the most human thing. She obviously shouldn't have been with Spike but she needed somebody, even if it wasn't love (as is exceedingly apparent when in the last episode of season 7 she kisses Angel like they never ended it).

    3. Her appearance. A lot say she became ugly or her breasts were too small and so forth. I agree that Buffy was cute in early seasons and not so much later but her changes don't distract me from the character.

    That's the main reasons I see people not liking Buffy. My main reasons for liking Buffy are...

    - She's incredibly strong as a person
    - I agree with most of her choices
    - Flaws, in someway her unlikable traits make her more real to me than Xander/Willow, who at times seem somewhat perfect
    Last edited by assydingo; 25-09-08, 10:57 AM.

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    Are you kidding? Buffy always tops the character polls, along with Angel and Spike.

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    • #3
      No my favourite is not Buffy. I find her most of the time very annoying. My fav is probbably always going to be Angel.

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      • #4
        I think that Buffy is less popular since season 6 ... but she still has many fans. Like Enisy already said, she is still one of the big favourites.

        Buffy was my favourite character in season 1-3, after that Angel became my favourite. Right now she is around place 4/5/6 on my list.


        I do have to say that I almost never saw people use the complaints you wrote ... if somebody doesn't like a girl because she has no big boobs, I won't take that person serious in the first place. But to use that argument against Buffy and have Willow as your favourite character is just stupid. BtVS is full of women I would like to feed a hamburger ... on the other side, the small boob argument is always better than the 'Angel is a pedo bear' argument.

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        • #5
          The main reason people do not like Buffy is because she gets away with stuff no one else does. She was one of my favorite characters but because she gets away with things it makes people not like her.

          I like her just not as much as the rest
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          • #6
            Often the lead character is not the one that people identify with the most because they're in the spotlight and don't have as many 'human' attributes because they have to be the hero.

            I think Buffy's a great character but when asked I often forget about her, she's the focus of the show so it's difficult to think of her as 'like me' for the viewer.
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            • #7
              I really loved the character of Buffy, even more now in season 8, but I don't get why everybody stopped liking her in season 6, if anything it made me like her more, okay, maybe not all of the Spike stuff, but I think since she died the second time she's a stronger character and the only reason people don't like her is because they don't see the justification behind some of her actions.

              I may not have always liked her, but re-watching the show and reading the comics I think she is a brilliant character, she was always my favourite of the Core 4 anyway.
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              • #8
                Angel is a pedophile? Never heard that one. Buffy and Angel are almost entirely kid-less shows so I'm not sure how that's possible.

                What did she get away with?

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                • #9
                  Buffy is my favorite female character for the reasons you've mentioned. But I have to comment on one thing... Xander and Willow are nowhere near perfect and that's why they're popular.

                  Originally posted by Enisy View Post
                  Are you kidding? Buffy always tops the character polls, along with Angel and Spike.
                  Depends on the place of the poll. Sometimes Willow is the most popular character. Sometimes Spike. Sometimes Buffy. Sometimes Xander. Usually I see Spike in the top, but I have seen Xander and Willow above Buffy more often than I've seen Buffy above them.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by assydingo View Post
                    Angel is a pedophile? Never heard that one. Buffy and Angel are almost entirely kid-less shows so I'm not sure how that's possible.
                    Angel is in a way that he fell in love with Buffy before she was old enough and considering the age-gap, but not technically because they never had sex until Buffy was legal... well she was legal in the UK anyway, I'm not sure what the legal age to have sex is in California.

                    Just to add to my previous post if I had to rank the core 4 in order of who I liked the most I'd say -

                    1. Buffy.
                    2. Willow.
                    3. Xander.
                    4. Giles.
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                    • #11
                      I'd have to say:
                      1. Buffy
                      2. Faith
                      3 Willow
                      4. Xander (got nothing against him)
                      5. Giles


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                      • #12
                        If I had to rank the Core Four...

                        1) Buffy
                        2) Giles
                        3) Xander
                        4) Willow

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                        • #13
                          Oh, were we only supposed to do four.....ooopsy *blushes*


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                          • #14
                            Buffy is my favourite character but I agree with you that there seems to be a lot of people who don't enjoy her, especially since season six onwards. Season six and seven seemed to hurt her character a lot, it'll be interesting to see if season eight is able to turn that around and give her a big fall like they did with Angel in Ats season two.

                            I think characters like Buffy or Angel are often not fan favourites in comparison to others because they have the huge tasks of being in the spotlight. With that comes a lot of mistakes and falls, and they aren't the kind of characters that can just show up, make a snarky quip be hilarious then remove themselves from the scene unscathed. Which is probably why characters like Cordy, Anya and Spike had such massive fanbases back in the day but why characters such as Cordy and Spike have become less popular when they eventually got a story and became more flawed.

                            It's all about the spotlight, the more you get the more eventually you're gonna start pissing people off. Personally I enjoy characters like Buffy and Angel more.

                            The most common complaints I hear about Buffy are that she's either annoying, bitchy, things she's better than everyone else, mean to her friends ect.

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                            • #15
                              My rank would be:

                              1- Xander
                              2- Buffy
                              3- Giles
                              4- Willow

                              But that's with teh core four only, if I'm gonna add the other characters, I'm not so sure where I'd rank Willow I don't hate her, but I love other characters more. Actually I hate no character, it's a waste of time.
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by assydingo View Post
                                Angel is a pedophile? Never heard that one. Buffy and Angel are almost entirely kid-less shows so I'm not sure how that's possible.
                                It’s because he fell in love with her when she was 15 (that scene at Hemery in flashback where she’s sucking a lollypop, and he says at one point that he already liked her then). Plus, he’s like hundreds of years older than her. Dirty old man.

                                Though I think Buffy at 15, probably more mature than Angel in his rat-eating phase.

                                My favourites change all the time. Buffy (except in season 7 when she’s too military) is definitely up there, along with Willow, Giles, Spike and David Nabbit. Awww, David Nabbit. Give him his own show! Or at least have him turn up as a mystery patron in season 8 pls?


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                                • #17
                                  I would watch David Nabbit's show ... The guy needs to make a come back, can't he join Angel's team? That team needs some new geeks.


                                  My core 4 rank is;

                                  1. Xander
                                  2. Buffy
                                  ----
                                  3. Giles
                                  4. Willow

                                  Xander & Buffy are high on my favourite list, Giles & Willow not so much. Especially Willow isn't.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Nina View Post
                                    I would watch David Nabbit's show ... The guy needs to make a come back, can't he join Angel's team? That team needs some new geeks.
                                    Maybe he can rescue them from Hell in his company helicopter? He could land on a hell-ipad.

                                    (sorry)


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                                    • #19
                                      Willow has always been my favorite, from Day One, but that doesn't mean I dislike any of the others in the core group. Liking one (or more) better than the others doesn't necessarily equal to not liking the others at all - it's not an either/or situation.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Rowan Hawthorn View Post
                                        Willow has always been my favorite, from Day One, but that doesn't mean I dislike any of the others in the core group. Liking one (or more) better than the others doesn't necessarily equal to not liking the others at all - it's not an either/or situation.
                                        Exactly! Which is why all the "You're a (insert character) hater!" accusations are such nonsense most of the time. We all have our favourites but it doesn't mean you *hate* another character if you don't like them as much.

                                        I can never decide who I like more out of Willow and Xander. Xander's more relatable sometimes and Willow can make some really, really sucky choices but then you get scenes like her comforting Buffy in 'Wolves At The Gate' or of her excitement to see Xander, or in general just showing up and being, as Xander puts it, "the indescribable Miss Rosenberg!" and I just love her. I prefer her in earlier seasons though, especially before she became so darn cheesy with her partners.. "Tara, baby" "Kendoll?" Yeeks?

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