Stupid little things you always wanted to know.

[Nina]

Sometimes you watch a scene and you start wondering about the small things. You will never get an answer, but why not share these important questions of life with eachother ...

I always wanted to know where Angel got his money? He seemed to manage fine without a job ... still he goes nuts after Connor's birth and he needs lots of money. Spike steals and uses stuff from others ... I don't see Angel do that. So; how does he get money ...

I'm also intrigued by his leather pants. Angel never wears those (only one time ... Ats season 3 I believe), still he has those pants. Are those hanging in his closet, waiting for Angelus? We never saw Angel in leather in BtVS, still Angelus gets one of his flat in Innocence.

How did baby Connor survive without an umbilical cord? Darla doesn't eat, so it wouldn't be useful in the first place ... but still ... Connor needs food, no blood. And why does Connor have a belly button?

How did Spike travel on a motorcycle from Californi? to Africa in a couple of days?

I had more of these things, but I can't remember them right now.

[prayer]

I've been thinking about the money issue to. But I had Cordelia in thought. How does she afford buying designerclothes? epically in the early days.

[Ginny]

How did Spike travel on a motorcycle from Californi? to Africa in a couple of days?

was it ever actually stated as being africa?

[kassyopeia]

Ah, excellent, I was just thinking of starting a thread like this one too.

• What was the Mayor's plan, beyond eating a bunch of people? I mean, he seems smarter than King Kong or Tarantula, so he must know that if you become a big monster nowadays, all you get for your troubles is that the air force turns up and efficiently puts a stop to things.
  
  
• Are the Bringers people? Spike can kill them in "Potential", so they can't be, but the students seem to be becoming Bringers in "Storyteller", so which is it?

[kassyopeia]

How did Spike travel on a motorcycle from Californi? to Africa in a couple of days?

was it ever actually stated as being africa?

Pretty much, the script names the location as "a remote African VILLAGE", and Spike talks about having gone "to the other side of the world".

The "couple of days" is only implied by the way the scenes are intercut, though, so the best explanation is that Spike's story actually takes place weeks after the Dark-Willow-arc, it seems to me. Unless I'm overlooking something that makes that impossible...

[NileQT87]

i'd imagine the africa bit probably took place about a month+ after grave. angel said it would take months to take a cargo ship to asia and trek to nepal. spike very obviously rode his motorcycle to a place where he could board a cargo ship or in the luggage compartment of a liner (both ways angel mentioned or used). that's how vampires travel in the jossverse. we know they don't take planes usually (not without necrotempered glass).

there are a lot of intercut scenes that aren't linear. it's not the only one. the soul thing in africa is mid-summer. ditto with angel in tibet.

likewise, not every episode happens on its airdate, because most episodes take place on multiple days, specific dates (holidays) or are serialized. there are even episodes that take place over a couple weeks.

[Theresa Marie86]

I always wondered why angel lived in aprtments, hotels, mansions an nobody ever wanted rent. I to have always wondered where angel got his money. or how about giles, where did he get his moeny after hegot fired? He was never in need of money and never seemed to go broke. Or even faith how did she pay for the hotel she was staying in??

[NileQT87]

i imagine angelus killed the owners when he needed a new place (which we heard about several times). the mansion in sunnydale, i imagine, is another case of murdered inhabitants.

as for angel, we know from cordy's "investment portfolio" crack in the pitch tape, i'd imagine that while he didn't have an investment portfolio, he clearly had collected years of art objects, etc... as for the hyperion, there was the money that judy kovacs stole from the bank that angel found in the basement, as well as the connection to david nabbit. judy's bank money plus david nabbit is strongly implied to be how he got the hotel.

[Revan]

Angel probably kept money in the bank. He is smart. It's why so many vampires can often be viewed as rich because of interest.

Cordy afforded designer clothes in the early days because of her parents. And later on I suspect through her job.

[Matt]

Yeah, I never got the whole leather pants thing either, I mean, it wasn't like he was planning on turning into Angelus, so I never got the whole point in him keeping them, why not just throw them out in the trash?

Also, where did they come from because he didn't have any when he was with Darla, Drusilla and Spike and he'd turned back into Angel by then, so why would Angel buy some leather pants just to wear when he turned evil?

Angel probably kept money in the bank. He is smart. It's why so many vampires can often be viewed as rich because of interest.

I don't know where he got the money from when he was in BTVS or in season 1 of Angel, but didn't he find a whole case of money in the second episode of season 2? Or was that money useless?

Cordy afforded designer clothes in the early days because of her parents. And later on I suspect through her job.

I think the original poster meant in the early days of Angel when she was supposed to be completely broke, hence why she was living in that flea bag apartment. All I can guess is that she had some clothes left over from Sunnydale, I mean, they can't have taken them all.

[Nina]

Do you mean the money he got in 'Blood Money'? He gave that to Anne and her homeless childeren.

Cordelia wasn't the only person with design clothes while being broke, Angel always wore very expensive clothes (Angel and his money issue again), so did Buffy and Dawn in season 6 ... or Tara and Willow while they were students.

[Revan]

I don't know where he got the money from when he was in BTVS or in season 1 of Angel, but didn't he find a whole case of money in the second episode of season 2? Or was that money useless?

No I mean he just got a big wad of money when he was Angelus or whenever 100+ years ago sometime. And just stuck it in the bank. And he lives of the interest. Clear?

[kassyopeia]

or how about giles, where did he get his moeny after hegot fired? He was never in need of money and never seemed to go broke.

That's not a problem, he had a double income for three years and then was unemployed for only one year, so even if he started out with nothing (which seems very unlikely) he'd have been fine.

Or even faith how did she pay for the hotel she was staying in??

Well, I don't want to re-open a can of worms, but IMO the Council (directly or through Giles) should obviously have payed for her room and board. But if they did, one wonders how stingy they have to be for her not to be able to afford something better.

[Matt]

No I mean he just got a big wad of money when he was Angelus or whenever 100+ years ago sometime. And just stuck it in the bank. And he lives of the interest. Clear?

Yeah, that makes sense.

BTW, Nina I meant the bag of money he found in Are You Now or Have You Ever Been? The money he hid in the hotel's basement for that woman.

And judging from what we saw in Faith, Hope and Trick she had some money, but didn't tend to pay when she should and didn't the landlord get killed by Mr. Trick or Kakistos? I doubt she did pay if she could get out of it.

[Nina]

The bag full of money in AYNOHYEB won't explain how he got his money in those 50 years before that. Angel pays rent, Angel has nice clothes, Angel goes to the theater, Angel goes to Las Vegas ... and still he has no job. Angel must have a tree with money instead of leafs.

[spidol]

The only problem with the whole idea of angel having a load of cash in the bank is that he did start worrying about money which wouldn't happen if he was living on interest, like when he memorised Cordy's credit card number to buy something (little hockey stuff I think). The money could have just run out then though, and it would seem like the kind of thing angelus would do seen as you usually saw him and Darla in pretty nice things.

Why do female vampires who wear it always have immaculate make-up what with the lack of reflection?

[Matt]

How do vampires shave? Also how do they get haircuts and how do they style their hair?

I mean neither Angel nor Spike had facial hair, at all (except for that flashback where Angelus had a moustache) but their faces are never cut up from shaving, also their hair changes lengths, I mean, Spike's hair at the beginning of season 7 was different to how it was for the rest of the season, the same with Angel in season 5 and Spike's hair was styled different in Intervention, so how does that figure? Also how do they not mess it up when they're asleep?

[Nina]

In ATF:

Spoiler:

Human!Angel had to learn to shave himself and to cut his own hair. Brian Lynch went with the idea that vampire don't have hairgrowth.

But we already know that they have hairgrowth because of Darla's hair that grows a lot, Angelus' moustache, Spike's growing hair etc. Writers don't really agree about this, and the fact that the actors have hair the grows doesn't help either.

[NileQT87]

lynch is the one we have to fanwank, here. actually, until him it was completely consistent that vampire hair grows. maybe angel just started doing it with a mirror. or perhaps they would get the others in their vampire families to do it... and angel just went to some demon barber (hehe) when he had a soul.

i just tend to block out several of the text bubbles on that page like they don't exist.

makeup and shaving you can probably do by feel and years of doing it blind. after straight-edged razors, angel probably found normal razors a cinch. haircutting is something they likely had each other do or got somebody who did it for vampires and demons. i'd imagine that the females would need whomever was with them to tighten the back of their corsets as well.

[Michael]

Why did the police not show up at any point during the demon raid on Sunnydale at the beginning of Season 6?

And why did Joyce not have health care insurance as well as life assurance? She was far too competent a businesswoman to have left her children in such a dicey position.

Has anybody remarked on the cumulative cost of Buffy's various outfits? No wonder Cordy tried to stay on reasonable diplomatic terms.