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    Last edited by kassyopeia; 04-08-08, 10:21 AM.

  • #2
    Introduction

    Objective
    Wolfie and I would like to invite your participation in an epic effort to identify as many of the mythological and folkloristic plot elements present in the Buffyverse as possible. We'll be doing this on an episode-by-episode basis, while trying not to overlook elements present at an arc/season level at the same time.

    The key point is that fairy tales and myths can be referenced and/or employed in many different ways, and we're interested in all of 'em:
    • Direct mention, e.g. Buffy calling Giles et al her "fairy godmother" or wearing a red riding hood costume.

    • Modelling a story element more or less directly upon an established theme, e.g. Buffy pulling the Scythe out of the stone.

    • Using an established theme as one ingredient in the construction of a larger storyline, e.g. the (also directly mentioned) "Othello"-dichotomy for the Buffy/Faith dynamic.

    • Echoing an established morality, e.g. that of "Androcles" in the Buffy/Spike-with-trigger arc.

    • Fairytalish atmosphere, e.g. "Hush".

    Procedure (subject to change)
    We'll do this in increments of half-seasons, as a dozen episodes seems like a reasonable number to be worked on concurrently. Each episode will be the primary responsibility of one volunteer, who will assemble all the material relevant to that episode in the following steps:
    1. Volunteer posts a claim to an episode from the current set (linked in the OP).

    2. Volunteer posts an episode outline, following the format suggested below, consisting of an episode summary (links will be provided) and a list of all plot points to which parallels can be found.

    3. Others suggest additions and modifications to the list, volunteer updates outline as needed.

    4. Once discussion seems finished, the outline will be "harvested" and copied into a companion thread.

    Once all episodes in the set have been harvested, we move on.
    Resources
    Lists of non-modern tropes at tvtropes.org:
    Other:
    Legalese
    Finding episode summaries of the right length, non-copyrighted so we can re-post them here, wasn't as straightforward as I thought. All the free content (wikis) is rather inconsistent in length, while all the big episode guides don't have free content. But, yay, the defunct site that hosts the shooting scripts also has summaries, and there are no copyright issues with using the archived version:

    Terms of Use: "Some of the content available through the Archive may be governed by local, national, and/or international laws and regulations, and your use of such content is solely at your own risk. You agree to abide by all applicable laws and regulations, including intellectual property laws, in connection with your use of the Archive. In particular, you certify that your use of any part of the Archive's Collections will be noncommercial and will be limited to noninfringing or fair use under copyright law."

    "noncommercial" is a given, and so is "noninfringing" for any defunct site
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    • #3
      Episode Format
      Suggested format for episode outline posts:
      Buffy - 1x01 - Welcome To The Hellmouth:
      Sixteen-year-old Buffy Summers has moved to Sunnydale from L.A., hoping to leave Buffy's troubled past behind. But Sunnydale High librarian Rupert Giles knows who Buffy is: she is the Slayer, the one girl in all the world with the strength and skill to hunt and kill vampires. He knows about her past because he is her new Watcher -- the person whose destiny it is to train and guide Slayers on their path. Buffy quickly makes two friends: the shy, bookish Willow, and the goofy but lovable Xander, who is instantly attracted to Buffy.

      When a student is found dead in a locker -- with bite marks on his neck and completely drained of his blood -- Giles enlists Buffy's help. She resists, trying to get out of the slaying game for good, but Giles insists that a crucial mystical upheaval is about to occur. Unbeknownst to them, a bewildered Xander overhears their conversation -- Buffy's secret is out. Later, in a dark, eerie chamber, we see a vampire who seems to be confirming Giles' prophecy. The vampire, Luke, kneels in front of a pool of blood and says, "The sleeper will awaken. And the world will bleed."

      On her way to the Bronze, Sunnydale's hippest (and only) club, Buffy is followed by a handsome, mysterious stranger. He tells her she must be ready for the Harvest, and gives her a small cross. Giles meets her at the Bronze and she tells him about the encounter. Giles convinces her to use her power, and wants her to try to sense if there are any vampires in the room. She does sense one and finds him talking to Willow, but the two have walked away. Trying to catch him unawares, she grabs a makeshift stake, turns a corner and attacks... Cordelia, the snootiest girl in school, who already thought Buffy was a loser for hanging with Willow, and now thinks she’s certifiable. We see Jesse, Xander's buddy, chatting with a girl we saw in vampire garb earlier, but who now appears as a normal student, Darla. Back to the pool of blood, something breaks through the surface and rises: the demonic Master Vampire. He is hungry and weak, and asks Luke to bring him something young.

      Outside the Bronze, Buffy enlists Xander's help in finding Willow, who's already been lead to a mausoleum by the vampire. Willow's happy to find Jesse there, until she sees that Darla has already bit him in the neck. Buffy and Xander enter, and Buffy promptly kills the vampire boy. Now Willow is finally in on the secret. While Darla tries to attack Buffy, Xander and Willow lead a weakened Jesse out. Luke joins the battle and throws Buffy across the room.
      1. Plot Point: Buffy's first meeting with Giles
        • Type: Theme
        • Description: Hero meets mentor/wise old man who instructs about mission.
        • Parallels: Arthur and Merlin
        • Analysis: This subverts the hero/mentor first meeting scenario by having Buffy already know all the lore about herself.


      2. Plot Point: Luke awakens the Master
        • Type: Theme
        • Description: Ritualistic awakening from enchanted sleep
        • Parallels: Sleeping Beauty
        • Analysis: While "The Sleeper" is a Big Bad instead of a Pretty Princess here, the important element for the ritual to succeed seems to be devotion - true love there, quasi-religious fervor here.
      Markup for the list, if you can be bothered:
      Code:
      [noparse][list=1][/noparse]
      Repeat for each plot point:
      Code:
      [noparse][*][b]Plot Point[/b]:
      [list]
      [*][b]Type[/b]:
      [*][b]Description[/b]:
      [*][b]Parallels[/b]:
      [*][b]Analysis[/b]:
      [/list]
      [/noparse]
      Code:
      [noparse][/list][/noparse]
      Last edited by kassyopeia; 10-08-08, 07:28 PM.

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      • #4
        Project History

        See the "I like my fantasy like I like my men…" thread for the discussion that sparked the idea; the immediate context is this:
        Originally posted by Wolfie
        [W]hat are your (or anyone here's) views on the fairy tale elements of Buffy and other fantasy shows and stories, and how they fit with the "realistic" elements? Season 8 is definitely hitting the fairy tale notes a lot - sleeping beauty kisses, a mysterious "prince" is mentioned by Robin (the minder), plus, of course...giant Dawn and her fee fi fo fcking fum.

        What about other mythic structures (eg ancient greek myths - eg Angel playing Orpheus when he goes to a hellish trial place to rescue Darla, or, in fact, Faith playing Orpheus IN Orpheus, when she rescues Angel from his own personal trapped-with-Angelus hell?)?
        Originally posted by Kas
        For one thing, fairy tale flair makes for episodes I enjoy a lot, as a rule: "Killed by Death", "Gingerbread" and "Hush" come to mind.
        Typical fairy tale morality, on the other hand, is pretty much absent in Buffy, it seems to me. And that's a good thing, because fairy tale morality is usually very bleak and cautionarytalish.

        On second thought, absent might not be the right word, but when it turns up it gets directly subverted. Like in "All the way", with the creepy old guy who's very much the gingerbread house witch, luring the innocent children into his house, only to be brutally murdered by one of the children who's not quite as innocent as one might have supposed. On third thought, the witch got brutally murdered by one of the children too, so I'm not sure any more if my point has any merit and I'll abandon it for now.

        Anyway, mythology is a much better source for Buffy-suitable themes than fairy tales, because it doesn't have that morality aspect to it and because the characters are much more human and much less like cardboard cutouts. The direct consequence of this deeply human flavour is that many of the themes are really timeless, and that the line between a story consciously based on a myth and a story about humans who still struggle with the same problems as those who wrote the myths is rather blurry.
        Originally posted by Michael
        I think "the myth pool" as Wagner called it is a great source of stories. I assume Jung's "collective unconscious" refers to the same thing. It contains Greek, Jewish, Roman, Norse, Celtic ans other stuff. The Grail story was probably a Celtic myth that was "Christianized" by the Breton balladeers of the 11th century onwards.
        Originally posted by Wolfie
        This sense of danger and punishment is very much of a piece with Buffy’s experiences of life, but Buffy herself becomes the mechanism of the fairytale – the agent of punishment. She’s a cautionary tale for vampires. She is the punisher! Only without the scary skull motif.

        Fairytales contain subversive elements already, in which the weak become the strong (Cinderella) and the poor become the rich. Actually, it’s mostly about money in the end, isn’t it?

        Hmm…Doublemeat Palace…Buffy-as-cinderella? Only a Cinderella whose “prince” is a vampire (he offers to get her money and take her away from all this) but accepting his bounty would be even worse than drudgery.

        But myths are definitely a rich source for Buffy too, and probably used more extensively (though I’m just saying that, I haven’t really done a breakdown, just seems likely!). Actually, is it? The Buffy/Angel romance is a Beauty and the Beast story, really. Though that does have mythical forebears, I’d say it’s closer to the fairy tale version than eg Cupid and Psyche. Though, Cupid…wings…Angel…ok, that’s a stretch
        Originally posted by Kas
        It seems to me that fairytale morality directly springs from the medieval brand of Christianity - be good, for ye shall be judged. There is a single one among Grimm's tales that has a completely unexpected message, it's pretty much "you can be as lazy as you like as long as you're clever enough to get away with it". Very refreshing.

        Buffy doesn't punish, she kills to prevent future naughtiness. She's proactive (with pep!) where fairy tales are entirely reactive. There's no way a fairytale would've let Spike live.

        It's a direct extension of the reward/punishment approach, methinks. The virtuous always win and come out on top, the villains always lose and get their due. Power has nothing to do with anything, the narrator (or, from an in-story perspective, providence, I suppose) makes sure that things turn out allright. Ultimately, Buffyverse storylines work the same way, but fortunately the writers have gotten a lot better at hiding that aspect. I still can't help feeling a little sorry for the villains all along, knowing that in the end they don't stand a chance no matter what.

        Buffy and Joyce are shelling peas in the end of "Ted", very Cinderella-y. And there's the shoe-moment in season 7 - "It is not for thee. It is for her alone to wear."

        Well, let's do a breakdown, that sounds like a fun and edifying project. Unless there's one already... I'll have a google. What would be a good format? Post a brief episode summary (easy enough to find a source for those), identify the morality, if any, then match themes and morality to the tales, and repeat for all episodes?
        Originally posted by Wolfie
        I’m pretty sure Spike would’ve been impaled on a railroad Spike if fairytale justice had its way. We were just discussing this at work – not Spike, but the death of bad guys in stories, concluding that on the whole, the feeling of “justice” works better if they’re killed by their own mistakes. If the good guys actively punish them, it just makes everyone seem unpleasant. But if the evil queen happens to poison herself with her own apples or something, much better. Though fairies are good agents of punishment, because they’re not really part of the moral framework. Scary, veiny good fairies.

        So, if google says there’s nothing…that’d be really fun! Like a Propp’s Morphology of Buffy.

        I think Brief episode summary plus fairy tales explicitly/obviously referenced (eg Buffy dressing up as Little Red Riding Hood or the vampire in Helpless putting on her red coat like the wolf does and talking about grandma…I think he does anyway, must check), then perhaps also slightly less obvious fairytale themes (as you said, the gingerbread houselike properties of the nasty old man in All the Way), plus a little on the morality of the episode and whether the fairytale element seems incidental to the plot or part of the deep structure of it perhaps? Or there could just be a general comments section on how the fairytale is used, rather than trying to use the same model for each analysis? More flexible that way. So, along the lines of….

        Episode:
        Summary:
        Fairytales referenced:
        Fairytale tropes/themes:
        How they’re used:
        Last edited by kassyopeia; 01-08-08, 07:33 PM.

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        • #5
          I think the first approach is best, listing the event/scenario in the episode...not all the plot elements, just the ones that have a fairytale/mythical element though. Perhaps instead of "origins" it could be more general - "Origins, echoes and analogues?" Since origins are hard to pinpoint with fairytales, since culture's so drenched in them?

          EG:

          Episode event or moment: Buffy's first meeting with Giles

          Theme: (could have multiple themes for one event of course!)

          - Hero meets mentor/wise old man who instructs about mission.

          Origins, echoes and analogues: Arthur and Merlin

          Comments/analysis: This subverts the hero/mentor first meeting scenario by having Buffy already know all the lore about herself.

          Obviously if people disagree with the theme, or the analysis, or have stuff to add, we can discuss and people can edit their posts?


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Wolfie Gilmore View Post
            not all the plot elements, just the ones that have a fairytale/mythical element though
            Yes, obviously, otherwise this thread would get looooooooooong.
            Episode event or moment: Buffy's first meeting with Giles
            I'd like to make the headers as short as possible. "Event" should be clear enough, no?
            Origins, echoes and analogues: Arthur and Merlin
            I see what you mean about "Origin" being too narrow, but isn't there a single word that's broad enough to encompass everything?
            Obviously if people disagree with the theme, or the analysis, or have stuff to add, we can discuss and people can edit their posts?
            No need, we just edit the concensus into the header, so the discussion can be preserved.

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            • #7
              I like the idea of having something broad, like
              Origins, echoes and analogues:
              . But perhaps there could be one topic for continuity, or for how the myths in the episode link with other episodes, more for seasonal arcs? Though this would perhaps be covered in Comments and Analysis (e.g Explanation of theme ... contrast this with another theme/episode) not everyone would do this and having another category specifically for continuity would 'force' them to think about this.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by The_Narrator View Post
                I like the idea of having something broad
                Yeah, I'm all for broad, I'd just prefer a single term if we can find one. I used "parallels" for now, see updated header.

                ETA: I don't think we need to worry too much about making the terms super-precise, since the content that follows clarifies what we mean anyway...
                But perhaps there could be one topic for continuity, or for how the myths in the episode link with other episodes, more for seasonal arcs?
                I was thinking we'd make a separate header post for the entire season after we're through with the individual episodes and collect everything that's arc-related in there. Links between individual episodes should be mentioned in both (preferrably) of the episode headers, I can't think of another place that makes sense.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kassyopeia View Post
                  I'd like to make the headers as short as possible. "Event" should be clear enough, no?
                  I'm just wondering if it's something like Buffy wearing a red riding hood outfit, is that an event? But I think I'm just being pedantic, event works fine!

                  I see what you mean about "Origin" being too narrow, but isn't there a single word that's broad enough to encompass everything?
                  Analogue is probably the broadest, I reckon? Because that covers stuff that's not a conscious echo.

                  EDIT: No, wait, I like your "parallels" bit better!


                  No need, we just edit the concensus into the header, so the discussion can be preserved.
                  Cool cool!

                  Originally posted by The_Narrator View Post
                  I like the idea of having something broad, like . But perhaps there could be one topic for continuity, or for how the myths in the episode link with other episodes, more for seasonal arcs? Though this would perhaps be covered in Comments and Analysis (e.g Explanation of theme ... contrast this with another theme/episode) not everyone would do this and having another category specifically for continuity would 'force' them to think about this.

                  Yeah, I think we could link the larger themes in here, maybe later we could set up some kind of "how myth references build into the buffy mythos/arcs" type thing? Maybe we could offer some suggestions of things you could include in the comments and analysis?


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wolfie Gilmore View Post
                    I'm just wondering if it's something like Buffy wearing a red riding hood outfit, is that an event? But I think I'm just being pedantic, event works fine!
                    Yeah, it's not perfect. "Plot element" feels pretty broad to me, but also awkward.
                    EDIT: No, wait, I like your "parallels" bit better!
                    Another one I thought of just now is "Alludes to"...

                    So, let's all just brainstorm good terms til tomorrow, I'm sure we'll be able to come up with something for each item that's broad enough to cover all cases yet narrow enough to distinguish the items from each other.

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                    • #11
                      My brainstorming came up pretty much empty... so I turned to a thesaurus, which leads to the following suggestions:

                      For "event" etc. there's also "instance", "occurrence" or "situation".

                      For "origin" etc. there's also "derived from", "inspired by", "corresponds to", "connotation".

                      I think I like occurrence, it feels broader than event. So, incorporating that, my first contribution would be formatted thus:

                      Occurrence: Luke awakens the Master
                      • Type: Theme
                      • Description: Ritualistic awakening from enchanted sleep
                      • Parallels: Sleeping Beauty
                      • Details: While "The Sleeper" is a Big Bad instead of a Pretty Princess here, the important element for the ritual to succeed seems to be devotion - true love there, quasi-religious fervor here.

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                      • #12
                        OK, how about something like this in terms of layout? I've simplified the boxes a tad, and added Modern and Classical headers to 'Allusions'. Also, I was thinking, how would this work? We could have an episode list, and people agree to do certain episodes, which would then be publicy posted, and if anyone thinks of missing things, they could be added, perhaps to work one season at a time.


                        Episode:
                        Prophecy Girl

                        Plot Point:
                        Buffy descends into the Master's lair to face him. She dies, but is returned to life and defeats him.

                        Theme(s):
                        -Hero descends into Hell.
                        -Evil villain attempts to escape from prison.
                        -Prophecy.
                        -An innocent guides the hero to the evil genius.
                        -Heroic Sacrifice

                        Allusions:
                        Classical
                        -Orpheus attempting to rescue Euridyce from Hades.
                        -Oedipus refuses to accept the prophecy that he would kill his father and sleep with his mother, but it still comes true.
                        -C.F. The Inferno by Dante and Paradise Lost by Milton.
                        -The many myths about those who die, go to Hell, and then return to life
                        (e.g. Gilgamesh, Osiris) and those who make journeys to Hell whilst alive (e.g. Odysseus, Orpheus).
                        Modern
                        -John Constantine frequently travels to Hell in the Hellblazer universe, usually to bargain for his soul or the souls or others.
                        -In the Lord of the Rings, practically THE main theme is that Frodo could not have destroyed the ring without Sam (Buffy would have died if it weren't for Angel and Xander).
                        -Contrast with the Buffyverse's Illyria, Billy, Jasmine (when inside Cordelia but before being awoken by Lorne's spell) and Acathla, who are also imprisoned, and escape to wreak evil on the Earth.
                        -The Beast from Doctor Who episode 'The Satan Pit'.
                        -Numerous heroic sacrifices:
                        -Star Wars: Darth Vader sacrifices himself for his son, Obi-Wan dies to give Luke & co time to escape, Luke sacrifices his hand to rescue his friends.
                        -Harry Potter: Snape dies whilst trying to repent for his past, Harry's parents die to try and save him, the dead members of the Order of the Phoenix die trying to defeat Voldemort, Dumbledore gets disarmed by Malfoy to immbolise Harry and thus protect him, Harry is willing to die to defeat Voldemort etc.
                        -Doctor Who: the 9th Doctor absorbs the energies of the Time Vortex from Rose to save her life, the 10th Doctor wipes Donna's memories to save her life, Jack dies fighting the Daleks (and practically any other companion/extra who dies helping the Doctor), the 5th Doctor gives Peri the antidote to the poisoning in 'The Caves of Androzani', forcing himself to regenerate.
                        -Lost:
                        Spoiler:
                        Charlie accepts his fate and dies trying to help Desmond
                        , Boone dies as a 'sacrifice to the island', according to Locke.
                        -Contrast with the heroic sacrifices in the Buffyverse (Angel goes through the Trials for Darla's life, the attack on the Black Thorn, Buffy dies in 'The Gift' to save the world, Doyle dies to save the demons, Spike destroying the Hellmouth, Buffy sending Angel to Hell in 'Becoming Part Two' etc.)

                        Analysis:
                        -The four archetypes of prophecy in storytelling are all used here: refused (Buffy's 'I'm sixteen, I don't want to die' speech), accepted (Buffy goes to meet the Master), comes true (Buffy dies) and turned on its head (Buffy comes back to life and kills the Master).
                        -The innocent leading the hero to the villain is subverted in that Colin only appears to be an innocent boy, when he's meant to be some evil badass.
                        -Continuing the ever-present Buffyverse theme that you're stronger with your friends.
                        -The first of many Buffyverse prophecies that don't come true/are inverted somehow (e.g. the prophecy regarding Angel becoming human, the prophecy in 'A New Man', the fake prophecy that leads to Holtz snatching Connor etc.)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The_Narrator View Post
                          We could have an episode list, and people agree to do certain episodes, which would then be publicy posted, and if anyone thinks of missing things, they could be added, perhaps to work one season at a time.
                          Hey, yes, that's probably a better idea than what I had in mind. My reasoning for doing this one episode at a time, in order, was to keep the thread as orderly as possible, but it's going to take forever that way. Wolfie suggested using more than one thread, and I'm now thinking a combination of the two might be ideal. How about this:

                          I link the episode summaries for the "current" season (or, maybe, half-season, a dozen at a time might be a good compromise) in the ToC post, and people can "claim" an episode, which I then mark in the ToC post. After claiming, people make as complete a list of referenced themes etc. as they can, and post it in a format along the lines we're talking over at the moment, but without the need to bother with the layout too much. Then, everyone else can suggest additions and modifications, and the claimer is in charge of incorporating everything into their post.
                          As a final step, when the discussion around an episode has died down, I copy their post, clean it up if needed, canonicalize (sadly, that's the accepted term) the markup and transfer it into a second thread which will consist of only those results, for easy browsing.

                          Sound good?
                          added Modern [...] header[] to 'Allusions'
                          I'm not too thrilled at that idea, because many of the big episode guides already have "References" sections on their episode pages which do pretty much the same thing. I'd prefer to stick to folklore and myth here, that way we'd be creating something truly original. But if others agree with your suggested extension, I'm not averse to being overruled either.

                          Re content, excellent work!

                          Re terminology, I like "Plot Point" much better than "Plot Element" or the variations of "event" listed above. It covers everything from "Buffy says 'fairy godmother'" to season-level morality. Definitely my favourite!
                          Last edited by kassyopeia; 01-08-08, 02:39 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Actually, I agree with you. I mean, look how long the modern references were in Prophecy Girl - and that's just for the first couple of fandoms that sprung into my head (Buffy, Harry Potter, Angel, Dr Who, Lost) and if we were to include all the other popular ones, like Firefly, Supernatural, House, Bones, Heroes etc, it would be ridiculously long! Reminds me of the longest Wikipedia article EVER - 'Living people'. That's all it is, a list of living people, and it's like, a million pages! So yeah, basically, I agree that we should only keep in fairytale relatedness. Plus it would give us a much greater focus whilst going through the episodes.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by The_Narrator View Post
                              That's all it is, a list of living people, and it's like, a million pages!
                              As one of Adam's henchmen says after killing several Initiative soldiers: "Three down. Six billion to go, give or take."

                              I'm having another good idea about distributing the work, but I'm not sure it's in accordance with forum rules... I'll ask a mod.

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                              • #16
                                Sorry guys, not being very helpful with the thinking through logistics today, leetle bit of a hangover. But, with what brain I have this afternoon, my thoughts are...and by numbering them somehow I hope to make them make sense...

                                1) I think parallel is better than allusion, cos allusion implies it's a conscious reference and not all the fairytale/myth tropes will be conscious.

                                2) Agree that we shouldn't cover all kinds of references, just myth/fairytale (though if it's a reference to a film/novel or something based on a fairytale, that seems fair game.

                                3) In terms of the best way of ordering the thread...knowing the way my own brain works, and how people aren't always thinking in linear ways, it would be good to have some way of posting random fairytale reference thoughts. So, here's my suggestion: we have one thread - this one perhaps, since it's started, for discussing/posting random thoughts about mythology and fairy tales in Buffy episodes, and another thread that has each episode in it. In this thread/the discussion thread, we could get people to sign up for eps...so the other thread would be just the episodes, and it would be a nice thing to refer back to. What do youse reckon?


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                                • #17
                                  Okay, I've reshuffled the beginning of the thread and incorporated everything we've come up with so far. I'll wait til monday morning to post the first set, in case there are more suggestions and since the forum is pretty dead in the weekend anyway - if there are no objections?

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                                  • #18
                                    Okay, let's get this road on the show!

                                    Season 1
                                    Make sure you've taken a look at the intro post, then take your pick and start identifying and analyzing.

                                    Oh, and in case you were thinking of not volunteering,
                                    "Gosh, I'd love to volunteer, but I recently developed... carpal tunnel syndrome"
                                    isn't going to impress us any more than Snyder.
                                    Last edited by BuffyverseMorphology; 16-08-08, 01:53 AM.

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                                    • #19
                                      If no-one has any objections, I'd go for Witch, Angel, Nightmares and Prophecy Girl.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by The_Narrator View Post
                                        If no-one has any objections, I'd go for Witch, Angel, Nightmares and Prophecy Girl.
                                        Are you kidding? Why would we object to you doing tons of work? I'll sign you up for those right now, so you can't change your mind.

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