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  • Totally Useless - The Worst Buffyverse Couples

    Who do you think are the worst couples on Buffy and Angel? The forced, the pointless, the...downright wrong?

    I have a few, which is why I made the thread in the first place, one of which is Angel/Nina. I can't understand why Angel would want to get together with her so soon after Cordy died - and I don't even like Cangel! Nothing interesting happens as a result of this relationship. It's pointless to the extreme. Others I hate are Spike/Buffy (wrong), Angel/Cordy (forced), Cordy/Conner (wrong x100000), and Kennedy/Willow (mostly because it was so soon after Willow was grieving over Tara's death, can you say rebound??).

    In the meantime, which of these couples made you cringe (keeping in mind, you can vote for more than one, fun! ) Were Fred and Gunn too sickening together? Were Riley and Buffy too boring? Were Spike and Buffy gross (yes!!)?
    273
    Buffy/Angel
    5.86%
    16
    Buffy/Riley
    8.79%
    24
    Buffy/Spike
    6.23%
    17
    Spike/Dru
    0.37%
    1
    Spike/Harmony
    6.23%
    17
    Fred/Gunn
    5.49%
    15
    Fred/Wesley
    1.10%
    3
    Wesley/Lilah
    0.73%
    2
    Angel/Nina
    9.16%
    25
    Angel/Cordelia
    6.96%
    19
    Cordelia/Conner
    16.85%
    46
    Cordelia/Groo
    9.89%
    27
    Cordelia/Xander
    1.83%
    5
    Xander/Anya
    0.37%
    1
    Willow/Oz
    1.47%
    4
    Willow/Tara
    2.56%
    7
    Willow/Kennedy
    15.38%
    42
    Other (specify darn you)
    0.73%
    2
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  • #2
    I actually just chose one for the poll, Buffy/Angel. Because they absolutely bore me together. I know a lot of fans love them but the ship just never sailed for me.

    There are some obvious others I think some people would vote for but honestly, they all served some purpose or another, even if the writing of it may have failed in the end, i.e. Angel/Nina, Cordy/Connor.
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    • #3
      Angel/Nina, Cordelia/Conner, Cordelia/Groo. These were the couples I picked I just Think that Nina and Angel shouldnt have been done. IMO they shouldnt of ever brought her in the first Place. I just dont like the other two.
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      • #4
        I don't see how Buffy/Angel could be hated by anyone.. To me, it's the ideal relationship..

        Cangel, Willow and Kennedy, Angel/Nina.. Fred and Gunn those are the useless ones..
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nostalgia View Post
          I don't see how Buffy/Angel could be hated by anyone.. To me, it's the ideal relationship..
          I could see how someone might think of it as boring I suppose (not to mention melodramatic) but not THE worst of that whole list up there. Plus, it's one of the most pivotal relationships of the series. If any relationship 'served a purpose' it was this one.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nostalgia View Post
            I don't see how Buffy/Angel could be hated by anyone.. To me, it's the ideal relationship..
            Well, to each his own. Sorry.

            Originally posted by ShinyFirefly View Post
            I could see how someone might think of it as boring I suppose (not to mention melodramatic) but not THE worst of that whole list up there. Plus, it's one of the most pivotal relationships of the series. If any relationship 'served a purpose' it was this one.
            I never said it didn't serve a purpose. Clearly, it did. And it touched many fans in the process; I am just not one of them. I can't deny that it worked for some people and I can't say exactly why it didn't do the same for me. I was just bored with it. It had all the makings of a wonderfully doomed love story but somewhere it missed the mark for me. I might actually be able to partly blame David Boreanaz for this one. I really didn't care for either his character or acting until he got his spinoff. Anyway, out of the list, that's the ship I like the least. But anyone who has known for me awhile knows I'm not a heavy shipper. I tend to quite like whatever the writers throw our way...with a few exceptions of course! *cough-Grey'sAnatomyGeorgeIzzie-cough*
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            • #7
              I never said it didn't serve a purpose.
              Originally posted by Jenni Lou View Post
              There are some obvious others I think some people would vote for but honestly, they all served some purpose or another, even if the writing of it may have failed in the end, i.e. Angel/Nina, Cordy/Connor.
              I see, I thought when you said that you were implying that Buffy and Angel didn't. I'm not a huge fan myself but that wouldn't have made any sense.
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              • #8
                Angel and Nina. Not that I'm against them, it's just how they played out sucked. She appeared in 5.03, didn't appear again until 5.14 disappeared again until 5.21. She should've appeared in more episodes.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ShinyFirefly View Post
                  I see, I thought when you said that you were implying that Buffy and Angel didn't. I'm not a huge fan myself but that wouldn't have made any sense.
                  A-ha! Sorry if that came off as confusing. I've had a killer cold this weekend and just took me a big gulp of NyQuil. But obviously (now anyway!) I meant that all the ships served some purpose, but B/A is the one I liked the least. At leasy Angel/Nina lasted all of what? Two episodes? Divived by several eps between them? That's easier to stomach then 3+ seasons worth. And that's even excluding all the pining they did on their own series and the guest spots!
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                  • #10
                    Only relationships I couldn't get into at any point at all was Cordy/Angel and Cordy/Connor... I love Cordelia's character most of the time, but those romances felt really icky. I'm a big Cordy/Groo fan though
                    I had it in for Riley for a long time, but got over it. Think this was because Something Blue aired right after I Will Remember You here, and I was like 'WHAA???'
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                    • #11
                      I voted for a few: Cordy/Conner, Cordy/Groo, Buffy/Spike, and Willow/Kennedy.

                      Cordy/Conner is just pointless, disgusting, and makes me throw up inside.

                      Cordy/Groo is weird. Groo is a horrible character, imo. Plus, it stops Cangel.

                      Spuffy is gross and disgusting, imo. He took advantage of Buffy in her time of need and I will never forgive him for that. It was not love, imo. It was lust.

                      Willow/Kennedy is just the rebound girl and not Willow's type. She's totally wrong for Willow.

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                      • #12
                        I am a Spuffy fan myself.. but I still believe Bangel was a dynamic relationship as well.. I was just making sure you weren't just hating Bangel because it wasn't Spuffy.. sorry, but I understand now that you have a strong reason why..
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nostalgia View Post
                          I don't see how Buffy/Angel could be hated by anyone.. To me, it's the ideal relationship..

                          Cangel, Willow and Kennedy, Angel/Nina.. Fred and Gunn those are the useless ones..
                          Yes, I agree with you! Buffy and Angel was a ideal and romantic ship. I'm not just saying because I'm a bangel. Not everyone has to love it but It shouldn't be denied. It was special for the show.

                          Cangel.. YES. It was just meaningless. Even idea of it makes me angry.

                          Willow and Kennedy: I even don't want to make comment. Willow shouldn't have dated anyone after Tara. And It made it really unworthy.

                          I don't have much knowledge about the others that you've written but It really seems stupid either.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nostalgia View Post
                            Cangel, Willow and Kennedy, Angel/Nina.. Fred and Gunn those are the useless ones..
                            Yeah, b/c God forbid Angel move on and find love from a close friendship! Heaven forbid! Especially when that love plays a big role in season 4 as far as blinding him to the fact that Cordy was the big bad....and it's not like it added extra emotion and drama and depth to seasons 3-5 of Angel....

                            Come ON!

                            And seriously, how is Fred/Gunn pointless? If any Fred relationship was pointless it'd be Fred/Wes, for the two epps it happened in, and very suddenly and randomly at that only in time for Fred to die....seriously, there wasn't a need for Wes to be dating her at the time, he would have grieved just as much...

                            F/G on the other hand, was, face it, what Fred CHOSE. Not to mention the fact that if F/G hadn't happened, Dark!Wes wouldn't have happened either, since his isolation from them and unwillingness to confide in them led him to do the Connor thing on his own, etc. And DarkAngsty!Wes is a BIG part of Angel....so F/G is certainly not useless! And talk about biased opener--"were Fred and Gunn too sickening together?" Please....a better question would be "Were Fred and Wesley too random and badly developed?" Or just plain boring as well....

                            The only truly useless couples are Angel/Nina and Willow/Kennedy (though I guess the latter was to show that Willow had gotten over Tara's death or something). But really, the seasons wouldn't have been much different (in fact, they'd have been much MUCH better) without these meaningless and annoying ships...I'm still wondering what the point of A/N was, unless to show that Angel could have casual flings with women he didn't really care about....as Shiny Firefly said, pointless to the extreme!
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                            • #15
                              I didn't find Bangel boring, just quite 'immature' at times. But then Buffy at least was very, very young at that point.

                              Sometimes it felt like I was like watching a bad Barbara Cartland novel come to life, but then I have a very cynical attitude towards 'romance' in general and that may have tainted my attitude towards the whole thing.

                              I don't hate it though, and find it worrying that some folks can throw the words 'hate and disgust' over such things.

                              "One mans meat" and all that......

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                              • #16
                                I voted Conner/Cordelia. That was wrong on so many levels. For starters, it wasn't even Cordy, it was Jasmine taking advantage of Conner's innocence and raping Cordy's body. Then there's the way Cordelia supposedly had maternal feelings for Conner. And to top it all off, Angel; Conner's dad was in love with Cordy.

                                Spike/Buffy was also quite disgusting.


                                Also, I found Angelus/Drusilla disturbing to watch. Keeping in mind everyone involved here is an evil murderous vampire... it was almost heartbreaking to see Angelus torment Spike like that when he was powerless to do anything about it. Right up until Angelus came back into the picture we were supposed to believe that Spike and Dru loved each other. It was so depressing to see her forget about Spike so quickly. Especially considering that Angelus tortured and probably raped her when she was a human.
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                                • #17
                                  I voted fo Willow-Oz, really boring, except Wild at Heart, their relathionship itself didn't create good eps.
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                                  • #18
                                    Their relationship created wonderful episodes!

                                    New Moon Rising and Wild At Heart are both great.
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                                    • #19
                                      - Buffy/Angel: on second viewings, it grates. Badly. Maybe it has to do with the early season suckage, but most writers could do better than that. Forgot to vote for it.

                                      - Buffy/Spike: on first, second, third, and all other viewings... well, you get the idea. Not only did it throw Spike's character all over the place but Buffy's (think s7) as well. Season 7's relationship was too schmaltzy and s6's - I couldn't see how anyone could not kill him.

                                      - Cordy/Connor: Obvious reasons.
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                                      • #20
                                        I'm amused that Spike/Buffy has the most votes among the Buffy-centric ships on the "Worst Couple" thread, but also the most votes out of all the ships on the "Favourite Ship" thread. Controversy is a good thing; it means that viewers were passionate about it, one way or another -- not lukewarm, as they would have been about something like Spike/Drusilla.

                                        I voted for lots and lots of couples that I'll refrain from naming here, lest I turn up on everyone's black list.

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