Angel Season 6 Comic

[bishopcruz]

Figured I'd start a thread here to see if anyone else has been reading the Angel comics that have been coming out recently. Which ones to people like? Which ones do they not?

I think that the most recent ones, the ones from IDW are in some ways better than the Dark Horse comics from a few years ago, and in some way worse.

A Season 6 Angel comic is also in the works right now, so what would you all like to see in it?

Starting things off, I have read all the IDW comics that have released so far, (with the exception of Shadow Puppets.) and they have really been hit or miss.

The three Spike one-shots, as well as Spike vs Dracula, while a little spotty did have some fun stories, and kept the humor in it that so many of the other Angel comics have been missing.

I also very much enjoyed Spike: Old times, and Lost and Found. They really felt like they could have been lost episodes of the show.

The others, Asylum, Old Friends, Aud Lang Syne, and The Curse just didn't seem to fit well with the Angelverse, they weren't horrible, but I didn't find them particularly inspiring either.

So, what does everyone else think?

[Chosen1]

I haven't really read any of the Angel comics, but if they were to make a season 6 in comics I would for sure start reading, haha.

[ThePoet's<3]

Well, so far I've only read the first in the Spike: Shadow Puppets series. And I LOVE it!!

There's just enough self-deprecation of the character to be enjoyable and the inflections, nuances and intonations of Spike's dialogue are spot-on!

I also like the Spike/Lorne team up! Good choice as they don't have a whole lot to do with one another in Angel 5.

I have an order in for the rest of the series as well as an order for Spike: Asylum. And with your suggestions above - I may have a busy (and expensive ) summer until the next issue of Buffy comes out!!

I am really looking forward to the Angel 6 series!!

I'm a Spuffy fan so I do hope something is addressed in one of the issues about Buffy and Spike. I also hope that the issues between Buffy and Angel regarding W&H will be resolved as well.

I look for the comics following the TV Series. Occasional cross-over stories with an occasional character guest appearance but I don't see either of our beloved vampires becoming a permanent fixture in the Buffyverse any longer.

In that case - I want Spike to have a Kick-ass girlfriend who likes him just the way he is and they can "team up" to their hearts content. The writers can call and talk to me if they need any specifics.

I actually would like for the two vamps to "split" but yet be in contact. Working separately but as a team. Partners. They are both too Alpha to report to each other, but one of the things I like more and more about Spike and Angel were the episodes toward the end of the series when they began to work together - an Odd Couple arrangement.

And just for grins and giggles I would like for Spike to become a writer and sell a critically - acclaimed book!! lol!!!!

[Dorian's Kitten]

Well, so far I've only read the first in the Spike: Shadow Puppets series. And I LOVE it!!

There's just enough self-deprecation of the character to be enjoyable and the inflections, nuances and intonations of Spike's dialogue are spot-on!

I also like the Spike/Lorne team up! Good choice as they don't have a whole lot to do with one another in Angel 5.

I may have to check that out-Spike/Lorne would be adorable.

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I am really looking forward to the Angel 6 series!!

I'm a Spuffy fan so I do hope something is addressed in one of the issues about Buffy and Spike. I also hope that the issues between Buffy and Angel regarding W&H will be resolved as well.

I look for the comics following the TV Series. Occasional cross-over stories with an occasional character guest appearance but I don't see either of our beloved vampires becoming a permanent fixture in the Buffyverse any longer.
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I think that is what Joss has in mind. He has said that he could use the characters if he wants to and that he would be.

I actually would like for the two vamps to "split" but yet be in contact. Working separately but as a team. Partners. They are both too Alpha to report to each other, but one of the things I like more and more about Spike and Angel were the episodes toward the end of the series when they began to work together - an Odd Couple arrangement.

And just for grins and giggles I would like for Spike to become a writer and sell a critically - acclaimed book!! lol!!!!

Yeah-it would have nice to see how that settled out in another season. I actually think Spike is not very Alpha when Angel is around-but if they split he may be able to come in to his own.

And as for grins and giggles:
Maybe with a little help from Lorne's contacts, he could be a Rock Star.
Also-I want Angel to come to him for help writing a love letter.

[bishopcruz]

I also forgot to mention the Angel: Character Spotlghts. They did one for each of the major characters from Angel, even Doyle! Well, almost all, the lack of a Cordy one really bummed me out. The best ones were the Doyle, Wesley and Illyria ones. Continuity on them can be a little fuzzy, but they are definitely good reads.

I'll check out Shadow Puppets, Spike and Lorne might be a good team, though I wonder if I'll be able to get over the whole 'Lorne wants to be done with all the fighting.' thing. We'll see.

[Leloo]

I read some of the Dark Horse Angel comics years ago but I actually gave it up because I didn't think they were as well done as the Buffy ones. I did enjoy them though and I actually meant to pick the Spike one shots up but just never got around to it.

I'd be thrilled if there ever was a season 6 comic. That'd be awesome

[Fallen Angelus]

I've been reading the IDW books since they first debuted. They've gotten a lot better over time, but initially I wasn't especially thrilled with them.

I've yet to pick up the first issue of Spike: Shadow Puppets. I kinda dug Lynch's work on Asylum, so I'm hopeful, but I think the idea of Spike going all puppety is a bit of overkill.

[vampmogs]

I haven't been a big fan of the Ats comics in terms of storytelling and stories. I think the pages are wonderfully drawn and like the shiney paper they get But the characters don't sound like the characters, the same way the un-canon Btvs comics suck as well.

With Joss writing them for s6 I'm sure they'll blow the other comics away, just like s8 has with all the other Btvs comics before it.

[ThePoet's<3]

I've been reading the IDW books since they first debuted. They've gotten a lot better over time, but initially I wasn't especially thrilled with them.

I've yet to pick up the first issue of Spike: Shadow Puppets. I kinda dug Lynch's work on Asylum, so I'm hopeful, but I think the idea of Spike going all puppety is a bit of overkill.

The Spike Shadow Puppets does not compare well with Spike: Asylum. The Asylum is an awesome read - and I just LOVE the artists!!! I hope they keep the artists for Angel Season 6 that have worked on Asylum and Shadow Puppets!!

Shadow Puppets is "lighter" than Asylum. But it's an enjoyable read - if you like Spike!!

[vampmogs]

Angel Season Six: After The Fall

Hi everyone

I've been hearing a lot more about the upcoming Ats season six comic that will be happening soon and thought that it deserved its own thread, and perhaps one day after its release even its own section

Basically what we know is that this is going to take place after Not Fade Away and I get the impression it will take place pretty much straight away after the alley and not sometime after like what happened with Btvs season eight. The series will be a 12 Issue mini series and Whedon describes it as being very 'intense' because of this.

Whedon also states that he is pretty much following what he had always planned for the sixth season of Ats, except without Wes of course, and this gives us to some clues what it may be about. I'm betting that Gunn has been turned into a vampire, LA is a hellzone and that the fang gang are in serious trouble. I didn't spoiler-tag any of these things because it is just speculation and not fact.

More importantly Whedon himself has stated that this "isn't pretty" so I'm betting that whatever is going to happen it is going to be very bad.

What is everyone elses thoughts on the issue, are you happy it is happening, what do you expect will happen?

vampmogs

[KingofCretins]

Well, since Season 8 is an unquestioned commercial and critical success so far, I'm sure this Angel Season 6 mini-series (more of a coda than a season) will also be awesome.

[slaycandy]

Oh wow. I never even knew they were thinking of releasing a season six comic! I am so out of touch with the joss-verse these days it is unbelievable! So thanks for adding this thread, it's got me excited now!

I love the way Joss has described this as 'intense' and from the sounds of it, this could be a lot darker, which is just how I like my Angel stuff to be, heh.

If season 8 is anything to go by, the artwork for the covers should be awesome, and if they do have a dark edge to them, then all the better for art-ing with, I hope they release some awesome promos for the comics. *fingers crossed*

Sayjay
xox

[Wolfie Gilmore]

Hi everyone
I'm betting that Gunn has been turned into a vampire, LA is a hellzone and that the fang gang are in serious trouble. I didn't spoiler-tag any of these things because it is just speculation and not fact.

What is everyone elses thoughts on the issue, are you happy it is happening, what do you expect will happen?

I'm certainly happy it's happening. While I thought the Shrodingery ending of NFA was perfect for AtS, that doesn't mean I'm not curious about what happens next.

I'd love to see a Vamp!Gunn - perhaps a malicious wish, since he'd have become his own worst nightmare, the thing he's always feared and fought... even more so than Buffy, perhaps? I mean, she feared becoming a vampire in Nightmares, but Gunn's loss of his sister made the thing even more personal. Buffy never had to see someone she loved turned into a vampire except in the comic case of Willow (doubt that Jesse had really captured her heart...and Harmony wasn't exactly her soulmate).

Rambling....anyway, I'd love to see a) how they got out of that alley and b) how they deal with the fallout of the apocalypse they brought upon themselves (and LA). The idea of the diminished Fang Gang on the run (Spike, Angel and Illyria with a hint of turning back into Fred?) in hell-torn LA could be lots of fun.

An all-demon fang gang could be interesting (well, god, demon, whatever Illyria is), and perhaps necessary if the stakes (sorry) have been raised by the unleashing of the senior partner's demon dawgs (and giants and dragons).

I know they don't have much room in 12 issues, but one thing I'd like to see is a return of Anne and Kate. I always wanted to know what happend to them...for me they represent the human dimension of LA, the people that Angel is fighting for (as opposed to the ones he's fighting against). But perhaps they've gone beyond the "for" of things? All is chaos and pain and whatnot, just trying to stay alive?

I feel that Lorne's probably out of the game, and perhaps out of the city...but who knows?

[vampmogs]

I'm certainly happy it's happening. While I thought the Shrodingery ending of NFA was perfect for AtS, that doesn't mean I'm not curious about what happens next.

You've hit the nail on the head here. This is the exact reason I asked wether or not people would be happy about this I know a lot of people who loved the way Ats ended and really don't want to know what happened, rather they want to imagine themselves what happened. I personally want to see what happened, I'd be happy either way. I think in this case especially the fact Joss had plans for more gives us enough reason to want more, to see what he planned finally be laid out.

I'd love to see a Vamp!Gunn - perhaps a malicious wish, since he'd have become his own worst nightmare, the thing he's always feared and fought... even more so than Buffy, perhaps? I mean, she feared becoming a vampire in Nightmares, but Gunn's loss of his sister made the thing even more personal. Buffy never had to see someone she loved turned into a vampire except in the comic case of Willow (doubt that Jesse had really captured her heart...and Harmony wasn't exactly her soulmate).

I agree, it would be extremely interesting to see I'd love to see how he deals with it, perhaps in some ways he could be self-loathing? Lawson is a perfect example of a vampire not being entirely happy with who and what he is. I picture vamp Gunn being something that despises himself to some extent yet still kills- and might I add would be a very lethal vampire given his extraordinary fighting capabilities as a human.

Rambling....anyway, I'd love to see a) how they got out of that alley and b) how they deal with the fallout of the apocalypse they brought upon themselves (and LA). The idea of the diminished Fang Gang on the run (Spike, Angel and Illyria with a hint of turning back into Fred?) in hell-torn LA could be lots of fun.

Well there always was that speculation of bringing Fred back, didn't Joss plan to seperate the two of them into different entities? I wonder if he'll do such a thing with only 12 issues?

An all-demon fang gang could be interesting (well, god, demon, whatever Illyria is), and perhaps necessary if the stakes (sorry) have been raised by the unleashing of the senior partner's demon dawgs (and giants and dragons).

The gang slowly immersed themselves more in the demon world so it is kind of fitting all humans would slowly die out of the group- though regrettably.

I know they don't have much room in 12 issues, but one thing I'd like to see is a return of Anne and Kate. I always wanted to know what happend to them...for me they represent the human dimension of LA, the people that Angel is fighting for (as opposed to the ones he's fighting against). But perhaps they've gone beyond the "for" of things? All is chaos and pain and whatnot, just trying to stay alive?

I'd love to see Kate again and yeah Anne would be cool

I feel that Lorne's probably out of the game, and perhaps out of the city...but who knows?

I had actually forgotten all about Lorne, silly me. I do wonder, I think he'll be in the comics but what role he'll play will be interesting.

[Ojuice5001]

One interesting thing about Gunn, his sister, and vampirism is that Gunn's sister was trying to turn him into a vampire, and Gunn staked her to keep that from happening. And it must have been really hard for him to have to do that.

So just think, if Gunn's fate is to become a vampire anyway, then in a sense, his staking of his sister was for nothing. That's gotta suck.

[Amber]

OOh, yeah, there is no way Gunn makes it out as a human so I would love to see him as a vamp. He would make an amazing vampire because he hates vamps more than anything, he may even suffer some self loathing after being sired.

It seems so unlikely that Angel, Spike, and Illyria ALL make it, but hey. What can ya do? I'm sure some miraculous event happens where they are saved. OOH, you know what I wish would happen. The demons are closing in, and they begin to fight when there's all of a sudden and huge light coming from the sky, and it's a freakin Slayer Cell dropping down from a helicopter to help. That would be awesome and would even the odds a bit, but I know Joss is sorta tryin to keep the two shows separate for more than one reason. Though, realistically, there no way that this major mini-apocalypse is happening in L.A. and Buffy and gang haven't heard about it. Distrust of Angel for heading Wolfram and Hart is one thing, but to ignore his bringing down of a major branch as well as The Circle of the Black Thorn would be just silly. Even if Buffy didn't help, surely there is a Slayer cell in Los Angeles, I mean come on, it's a major city with a major demon/vamp population.

We all know that Joss planned to make Illyria become more reachable and somewhat more like Fred through Fred's memories and I don't remember exactly how he even explained it but it was something along the lines of the fact that Fred wasn't ENTIRELY lost in Illyria, and remnants of her did in fact remain. I for one would LOVE to see what he would do with this, especially after reading the Illyria Spotlight comic, which I don't want to spoil for anyone, but I will say that Illyria experiences a truly emotional moment in regards to Fred.

I would love to see Kate again myself. She sorta just slowly disappeared and it seemed like no one ever missed her. Man, she was great in Sense and Sensitivity.

[ThePoet's<3]

NOOOooo... Not Vamp Gunn!! NOOOOO!! BOOO!! He will be EVIL!!
E-V-I-L! (See Souless Spike Thread... ) And I would rather have all of them make it from the alley or none at all. Hate to say but Gunn or Illyria can die but not the Vamps!!

I've heard that the Slayers will be no help at all. It will not be Buffy who rescues The A-Team. Which I guess in a way would be the best - so as not to steal the A-Team's thunder.

I don't like the sound of "intense"... It's too...intense for me.

[vampmogs]

OOh, yeah, there is no way Gunn makes it out as a human so I would love to see him as a vamp. He would make an amazing vampire because he hates vamps more than anything, he may even suffer some self loathing after being sired.

Yeah I think it would be really interesting to see what he thinks of himself if he was sired.

It seems so unlikely that Angel, Spike, and Illyria ALL make it, but hey. What can ya do? I'm sure some miraculous event happens where they are saved. OOH, you know what I wish would happen. The demons are closing in, and they begin to fight when there's all of a sudden and huge light coming from the sky, and it's a freakin Slayer Cell dropping down from a helicopter to help. That would be awesome and would even the odds a bit, but I know Joss is sorta tryin to keep the two shows separate for more than one reason. Though, realistically, there no way that this major mini-apocalypse is happening in L.A. and Buffy and gang haven't heard about it. Distrust of Angel for heading Wolfram and Hart is one thing, but to ignore his bringing down of a major branch as well as The Circle of the Black Thorn would be just silly. Even if Buffy didn't help, surely there is a Slayer cell in Los Angeles, I mean come on, it's a major city with a major demon/vamp population.

As Poet pointed out Joss confirmed that the slayers would not be helping Angel- basically because as she said it would steal Angel's thunder I have to agree with this, as realistic as it would be I think being a show we can take liberties and that the fang gang will solve he problem, or die trying, all on their own.

We all know that Joss planned to make Illyria become more reachable and somewhat more like Fred through Fred's memories and I don't remember exactly how he even explained it but it was something along the lines of the fact that Fred wasn't ENTIRELY lost in Illyria, and remnants of her did in fact remain. I for one would LOVE to see what he would do with this, especially after reading the Illyria Spotlight comic, which I don't want to spoil for anyone, but I will say that Illyria experiences a truly emotional moment in regards to Fred.

Yeah I have a theory that Fred won't be resurrected as such but somehow her memories will form into Fred. After all didn't ghost Darla state to Connor that she has all Darla's memories and therefore doesn't that make a person who they are? I reckon it won't actually be the same Fred physically but almost like a clone of Fred, with the same memories and feelings.

I would love to see Kate again myself. She sorta just slowly disappeared and it seemed like no one ever missed her. Man, she was great in Sense and Sensitivity.

I never actually liked Kate in the series but it would be nice to have her back for old times sake.

[Julian]

At the moment, I have a couple of Auld Lang Syne comics? and it is my firm opinion? that IDW sucks. It just isn't like the show at all.
However, if Joss is on the helm I think that we could get the continuation that we deserve. I think NFA was the perfect ending for Angel but I'm not complaining for a continuation. It's certainly another hopeful sign of spinoff.

Things I expect:
Gunn will not become a vamp. That's too obvious? or is it? Anyway, I expect more from Joss when it comes to saving Gunn.

Illyria will probably have a synthesis with Fred's memories. I loved Fred and it will be painful to watch but it will most likely happen. I mean ATS is jam packed full of schizos: Angel/us, The Destroyer/Connor Reilly, Jasmine/Cordy and, of course, Fred/ Illyria. So it's only to be expected.

The Vamps will survive. If they don't, (or if they are dust, and then not resurrected somehow) Joss will get a lot of poopy mail from a lot of fans.

Connor will be in it. I am certain of that. But what part he will play is ambiguous at the moment because he has so many possibilities.

Wolfram and Hart should still be around but I don't want them to be the big bad anymore. After NFA they kinda felt old.

Slayers! I don't care about the Scoobies appearing just as long as there'll be Slayers, or at least new magical characters like the fairies in season 8 issue 5Perhaps Dana will make an appearance she was so cool.

There are a lot of loose ends at the end of NFA that there are so much possibilities?.

[NileQT87]

there is one angel comic that i love--it's the one where angel sort of goes into a dream-state meeting past victims. the bit with jenny in the movie usher outfit with the doors and then the confrontation with angelus and seeing nothing in the mirror...

that comic is beautiful, imo.