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  • What do you think when rewatching Doyle in season 1?

    Well as the question asks, what do you think when you are rewatching Doyle?

    Well for me, I keep liking him more and more, while trying to not like the actor more (There's no point in liking a actor then grieving and being very upset for an actor that you didn't know even existed until after he was dead..), but I do feel a bit sad watching it, I guess it's because Glenn passed away, I don't know how to explain it but I just do.

    So what is your reaction when watching Doyle in season 1? Do you think of Glenn at all?

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  • #2
    Ill Have to agree with you here. Cuz Ive always Liked Glenn's Character on the show. He was very dark and Mysterious and the Irish accent (which was real) was Bloody cool. I just Wished that they couldve kept him around a little bit. As for Gleen himself I thought he was a great Actor who Tragically Died too young (Even if he did commit suicide). If u listen to Commentary on season 5, David Boreanz and Christian Kane talk about how much they miss Gleen and how good of friends they were with him.
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    • #3
      glenn didn't commit suicide, skinless... it was a heroin overdose.

      nevertheless, i admit i think of the tragedy every time i see his episodes. it's a bit like watching john belushi, elvis presley, judy garland, etc... you often end up thinking of their tragic ends; thinking what could have been.

      it was very nice that david boreanaz and christian kane were very good friends with him. some people are just self-destructive, but still were good people with a lot of talent.

      hero in particular just gave him a very epic send-off. it was nice that ats was always pretty good about mentioning doyle and gave glenn that little "in loving memory" epilogue.

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      • #4
        I am glad to know I am not the only one who thinks this, I just can't help but to think about what may have been. How many known movies/shows had Glenn stared in anyway? (I don't think he's done much as Amber, and she's like 3-5 years younger then him, or were).

        When I first discovered Glenn I decided to do a small tribute to him in some of my stories, He has a son named Derek in it who lives on with his legacy (Guess who the mother is....Amber), and he will always be remebered in my stories and elsewhere (If he was still alive, he would be up on the favourite list with John Glover, James Marsters, Julian McMahon and Jensen Ackles....Aleasst wouldn't have J at the beginning of his name!).

        Skinless- I don't think he commited sucide like Nile said, it was an overdose. But I always wondered why Glenn took drugs anyway, (It doesn't make me think he's a bad person, I am not that type of person who judges on that), was he going through a bad time? Or was it just because he was addicted?

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        • #5
          I always liked the character Doyle and hated when he died (on the show). Just when Cordy was beginning to fall for him. I enjoyed the humor he brought to the show. The first season had a different "flavor" to it than all the others wihout Doyle and Kate.
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          • #6
            The more I watch Doyle the more glad I am he was cut from the show. Not a popular opinion but I stand by it. I didn't find his character that interesting, the insights we got into his backstory didn't catch my attention like the stories of Anya, Angel, Darla, Dru or Spike; Doyle's just lacked that punch for me. I didn't particularly enjoy the humour of his character that much, I thought he was a little too chessy for my liking and I seem to be the only one who thinks Glenn wasn't the greatest of actors. I was very happy when Wes came on the show instead, but I did feel sad when Doyle died.

            Perhaps Doyle could have grown into a more interesting character, it would have been interesting to see him grow darker throughout the series and for Angel to be smothering him with that pillow instead of Wes. But I didn't like what I saw, though I didn't like Ats s1 basically at all except for the occasional episode, so no surprise there.

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            • #7
              well, yeah, i DEFINITELY prefer alexis denisof over glenn quinn. and you could tell from the beginning that doyle was there to give cordelia a reason to even be on the show (it was on pretty shaky grounds at first), and to give wesley a place to enter the show on. it would be a bit odd if two people from sunnydale showed up around angel on the same day.

              i could never see doyle become the sort of character wesley became. he was set up for 9 episodes, and it was clearly so. it was one of the defining messages of the show--angel is going to lose people around him. it goes well with the fact that as a vampire, he is going to outlive everybody he cares about... just in the jossverse, the human lifespan shrinks dramatically.

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              • #8
                I think Doyle may be a little retrospectively loved for Glenn Quinn's untimely death. Doyle was a functional character, too annoying to be taken seriously, not annoying enough to be considered 'quirky' (although I must admit I hated Wesley in his earliest episodes). I do however love the episode Hero very deeply, but that's the only time in which the character of Doyle was more than a functional character, and only because it was his 'deathisode', and writers love to give minor characters an episode largely to themselves when they kill them. Ploys like that mean that a character like Doyle is missed more than he might otherwise be, and in general I don't feel that Doyle was a particularly wonderful character to watch.

                Of course I see the passing of Glenn Quinn himself as a tragic occurrence, but what unfair death isn't?

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                • #9
                  Doyle always erked me, it maybe because I watched later episodes of Angel first, so I was so use to Angel/Cordelia/Wes, having Doyle in place just felt off. Though watching from the start he did play a good role, though I hate characters that the writers know is going to die. It makes them rush their story line FAR to quickly, we got a whole slew of Doyle information in like 10 episodes then we got of Cordelia in the majority of her time on Buffy.

                  His impact was I guess the only importance. Though watching his tape in "You're Welcome" and seeing Cordelia and Angel you can really feel the emotion and that even though he was short lived, his character was the major impact on the entire series that really shapped it. With out Doyle Fred would still be in Pylea and Gunn would still be a gang memeber (and maybe dead).

                  But in the end, I am still not a Doyle fan.

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                  • #10
                    I've always loved Doyle; him and Angel seemed kind of brotherly to each other, especially evident when they were passing off the annoying "sister," in this case, Cordelia. I think it was sad when both the actor and the character died, but I have to admit; everytime I watch it, I never fail to think of Mark from Roseanne and mentally compare the two LOL.

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                    • #11
                      I always liked Doyle, and I watched Angel from the beginning so I didn't have the same problem as a lot of people did as far as seeing later episodes and then coming back to Doyle. He was greatly missed because I started out watching him. I don't neccesarily associate his real life death with the character but it's always in the back of my mind when I watch Hero. I did enjoy Doyle but I do agree that his character didn't have much in the way of background and Cordy becoming the one with visions did things for her character that never would have happened otherwise. I'm sure that regardless of his addiction, Glenn was probably a pretty nice guy seeing as everyone has had nothing but good things to say. I mean, if he was a jerk, they wouldn't have said so, but they probably would've opted to say nothing at all. I think that Wesley made a better addition, but Doyle was really the one to show Angel his destiny, though they never explained exactly why, there was that whole, I have visions, you should help me with them thing, but mehh, sorta silly. But, it's not like Wes could have come along like, Oh hey, remember me froim Sunnydale, yeah I was a douchebag, but now I'm here to put you on the right path. Just wouldn't have worked.

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