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  • Reacting to Reactions! - BtVS Season 1

    Okay, just like the other threads for posting about reactor vids on specific seasons of BtVS, this one is for S1.

    When I followed the first season for alley box., failwhale34, Liam Duke and van (all of which I'd recommend) I gave it a specific thread (here). But then the following seasons 2 and 3 I've made them general threads, so any reactors could be added. Now that I've had a new reactor pointed out to me I thought I'd create a general S1 thread too. So please feel free to post your thoughts/recommendations/comments on any reactor's vids on a S1 episode in this thread.

  • #2
    Okay, the new reactor that I had flagged to me is domi e. She has so far put up vids for eps 1-3 of BtVS. I've watched the first two videos (comments below). I'm not sure at this point if I'll stick with her. It's been interesting to see the difference in watching someone just starting again, someone who isn't connected to the characters yet and is responding in a far more distanced way. There is also an oddity here in that she has seen AtS 3-5. I'd be really interested if anyone else gives her reactions a try what you think...

    domi e. - 1.01 Welcome to the Hellmouth
    So this is her first reaction video. Slightly strangely she has already seen Angel 3-5, admits bias in her love for Cordelia. It shows in how much slack she wants to give her even when she's being really mean and does suggest she'll become more engaged with the BtVS characters. It'll be interesting generally to see how she reacts to characters she feels she knows when she sees them at a far earlier time. It's a different angle to this reactor that's intriguing. She says that Willow is gay is all she knows, but she also knows Buffy died surely? She must know that from Angel 3. And she knows Buffy and Spike were a thing, or at least that they slept together a lot as AtS 5 presented it most of the time. I suppose not having the background of Buffy may have just made all those things not 'stick' too much in her mind as there wasn't context and content to them.

    Her response to seeing early S1 Angel was interesting. She says having skipped the first two seasons of Angel she has no backstory to him, but again I was just left thinking that isn't strictly true as there are flashbacks in the later seasons of Angel and references to earlier events in the BtVS/early AtS years.

    She has quite strong opinions of the characters straight away, in part surely from the bits she's gleaned through Angel and just general knowledge of what the show is about. She seems fairly happy to watch it and enjoyed the quips, commented on the show's age at varying points but in quite accepting ways. She felt the main group all have relatable qualities but overall seemed almost clinical in her watching.


    domi e. - 1.02 The Harvest
    It struck me how uber aware she is of film/writing techniques and how she is constantly critiquing from that viewpoint. So it made sense when she said at the start here that she is a film major. And gave more context to her huge love for the power shot in the bronze.

    She talks a lot about the set up and background that is being given, disrupts the flow of the episode for this kind of comment quite often. When noting how they are differentiating the characters' skills she is considering it in terms of them setting up what will follow in this/future seasons. The effectiveness of the pilot for set up. It's interesting but, as I said before, feels very clinical. She's also noticing things that she is seeing as common elements in similar shows/stories and considering how much a part Buffy played in those becoming popular.

    She does a whole thing about really feeling the likeness between Angel and Stefan from the Vampire Diaries which I found funny when you bear in mind that Angel as a character isn't new to her. But I suppose it is a more reasonable comparison for him here than S3 onwards of AtS. It would be more interesting if she talked about what she sees as the differences in the character perhaps and I'd be surprised if she doesn't do some of this.

    Her thoughts on Buffy's lone wolfing is interesting and she seems intrigued by how the dynamic will play out between Buffy and her mum in particular. I'll probably watch her vid on Witch at some point in the next few days, but it isn't going to zoom to the top of my things to do.

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    • #3
      Another upload for domi e. 1.03 Witch

      I found the flipped image really distracting, especially in the Summer's kitchen.

      She's harsh on Joyce but I was very much of the same frame of mind on my first watch. In considering the isolation Joyce is dealing with and the additional pressure as a lone parent on subsequent rewatches it made my attitude ease somewhat but I do understand seeing it more negatively initially.

      I like her thoughts on the comparisons between the parenting experiences, but she does interrupt the episode and talk over it a lot. She's perhaps overly analysing every moment in trying to present as engaged and interested. It actually makes it harder to judge how much she is genuinely connecting to it and she's making statements about what the characters are like seemingly based on just one scene.

      She obviously is interested in the themes and liked that element of the episode. She's positive about the set up they are creating for the show. I'm just not sure I can get on with her vids when she stops and talks during the episode so much. I might give Teacher's Pet a go. Not sure. I might try After Show Reactions instead. Has anyone else watched any of these?

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      • #4
        domi e. sounds interesting if she's a new buffy reactor -- I haven't caught up with new reactors. One of the things I don't enjoy as much though is when the episode gets interrupted a lot - it's less fun (for me) watching reactions if it starts to feel like detached commentary over emotional investment. But it's not a problem if the dialogue can still be heard and followed. I'd def recommend checking out ASR though - I know not everyone loves her but she was one of the earliest pioneering Buffy reactors setting a trend for more Buffy reactors to follow. It was a lot of fun watching her progressive journey through all the seasons, especially comparing her responses to other reactors like Duke etc. She also (thankfully) didn't get spoiled on anything major though she suffered an avalanche of spoiler-y comments in S6 but was able to avoid them thanks to moderators. (And she followed the SlayAlive guide for Buffy and Angel so she watched everything in the intended order and sequence, without getting spoiled in advance.) I'd happily revisit her S1 reactions too (as it's been a while), if you do choose to check out her vids I think one further benefit may also be that her YouTube Buffy vids will have more consistent, less interrupted scenes from the episodes because the copyright rules were different when she started out (I think they only started changing by the time she'd reached the middle of S7.)
        Last edited by SpuffyGlitz; 16-10-20, 11:30 PM.

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        • #5
          SpuffyGlitz I am going to give ASR a try. I haven't watched any more of domi e., the interruptions just really didn't work for me either and time is precious after all!

          I might get to watching ASR's reaction to Welcome to today or tomorrow (it probably depends on whether alley box or failwhale post a new reaction). I'll tag you if I do so that you can join if you'd like, it'd be great to discuss her responses with you.

          I have just seen that another new reactor is on S1 too, SoFieReacts. She seems to be up to Angel, ep7 so far (posted on 1st Nov), so I'll try her Welcome to reaction at the same time as ASR. If anyone else is interested, this is the link for her reaction to episode 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi4p..._MBoSL&index=1

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          • #6
            Okay, so I'm giving a couple of new reactors a try with Welcome to the Hellmouth. One old, one new....

            SoFieReacts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi4p...mThf4v4s3UgpH4
            She's currently watching Vampire Diaries so the differences are something she's openly wanting to see. Her amusement at the sound effects, I don't really get. I assume she thinks they're clichéd or out dated, she didn't really say.

            Buffy's initial outburst at Giles that Xander overhears she seemed to really respond to, appreciating that there's going to be depth given to these characters and their situations.

            It amused me how impatient she is for backstory and explanations. She seems quite taken with Buffy for the first episode and Willow scores an easy like again. Yeah I'm going to give her another go and watch more.


            After Show Reactions - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQLYST0JzXE
            Considering it is only three years ago I was really surprised by the difference in the vid quality. It just goes to show how quickly these things move on. Did you think it was 'poor' quality at the time SpuffyGlitz ?

            Her shock at Darla being the vamp at the start is classic. She obviously recognises a few of the actors and her instant defence of Willow is sweet. She seems pretty sympathetic to Buffy's situation and quite smitten with Angel.

            She enjoyed it well enough I think, but is saying she doesn't intend to react to them all even though she'll watch them all. Just react to 'the important ones'. As a chronology pedant I'd say they all build up your picture and a great deal of the fun is in seeing someone's thoughts develop, so I hope she changed her mind on that. That she had a friend write down what were the most important ones is disappointing. Sure there are some that most fans would agree are the main ones in a season, but everything's subjective and telling her an episode is important before she sees it in itself creates expectations in how she should react. Not the best way to view it to me. We'll see how it pans out for her, I'm happy to watch more of hers too.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Stoney View Post
              After Show Reactions -

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQLYST0JzXE

              Considering it is only three years ago I was really surprised by the difference in the vid quality. It just goes to show how quickly these things move on. Did you think it was 'poor' quality at the time SpuffyGlitz ?

              Her shock at Darla being the vamp at the start is classic. She obviously recognises a few of the actors and her instant defence of Willow is sweet. She seems pretty sympathetic to Buffy's situation and quite smitten with Angel.

              She enjoyed it well enough I think, but is saying she doesn't intend to react to them all even though she'll watch them all. Just react to 'the important ones'. As a chronology pedant I'd say they all build up your picture and a great deal of the fun is in seeing someone's thoughts develop, so I hope she changed her mind on that. That she had a friend write down what were the most important ones is disappointing. Sure there are some that most fans would agree are the main ones in a season, but everything's subjective and telling her an episode is important before she sees it in itself creates expectations in how she should react. Not the best way to view it to me. We'll see how it pans out for her, I'm happy to watch more of hers too.
              @Stoney Yay, I'm glad you started! I started watching ASR when she was reacting to OMWF. Yes, the contrast in video quality struck me too when I looked back at her S1 videos. The quality does improve though - I'll try and check out when I started noticing. Forgot to mention - her S1 videos (similar to Van) are not all available because she didn't react to them all. She watched some of them on her own, without recording it as a reaction. I think it was her friend who'd recommended BtVS in the first place. Rest assured, she did watch all the S1 episodes - in sequence - only she watched them on her own time. But I agree that it's unfortunate her friend felt the need to "warn" her that some S1 episodes weren't the greatest, because that kind of inherently set up expectations (that some are better/important compared to others.) I think she just intended for her to get hooked right away and maybe thought she'd lose interest if she saw the ones she considered weaker. No episode "spoilers" were given away, but as you say, making a list of 'important' ones is spoiler-y in itself. I wish she hadn't, but there it is. I think there weren't all that many Buffy reactors three years ago, not like the current abundance anyway. I'm really looking fwd to your 'reactions' to her reactions

              After the first season, ASR doesn't skip any episodes and reacts to them all. I enjoyed her reaction to the Darla thing too - she totally fell for the twist I just rewatched parts of her reaction, it was fun going back. It's probably a bit of a distortion because these are shortened versions on YouTube, but they're enjoyable all the same. She does seem smitten by Angel here. And yes, she loves Buffy and Willow. It's cool because they're both my favourites and I was curious if she would continue to love them through the whole show. I won't talk about her reactions to future characters cos I don't want to accidentally spoil you! Enjoyed your thoughts on the other reactor SoFieReacts as well! Yes Willow seems to be an instant favourite with most reactors. I personally love her 'he stole my Barbie' line in this episode (and Buffy's "seize the day" advice.) It's interesting to see how different reactors respond with almost instant love for Willow but hate for Cordy. I liked Willow too but didn't immediately dislike Cordy, I think I just assumed she'd be bitchy and popular but don't remember particularly disliking her, lol. (No one disliked Cordy more than Liam Duke did in the beginning lol)
              Last edited by SpuffyGlitz; 05-11-20, 05:37 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SpuffyGlitz View Post
                Forgot to mention - her S1 videos (similar to Van) are not all available because she didn't react to them all. She watched some of them on her own, without recording it as a reaction. I think it was her friend who'd recommended BtVS in the first place. Rest assured, she did watch all the S1 episodes - in sequence - only she watched them on her own time.
                It's good that she didn't actually skip any but a shame to not get to see her responses to little things throughout, the characters/plots etc. I know you already get a reduced version when you only watch the YouTube reactions but I like building up an idea of what different people like. It really helps to view it from their perspective if you've seen where they connected to the show and when it didn't work so well for them. At least it's only S1.

                But I agree that it's unfortunate her friend felt the need to "warn" her that some S1 episodes weren't the greatest, because that kind of inherently set up expectations (that some are better/important compared to others.) I think she just intended for her to get hooked right away and maybe thought she'd lose interest if she saw the ones she considered weaker. No episode "spoilers" were given away, but as you say, making a list of 'important' ones is spoiler-y in itself. I wish she hadn't, but there it is. I think there weren't all that many Buffy reactors three years ago, not like the current abundance anyway. I'm really looking fwd to your 'reactions' to her reactions
                It is difficult when you really want someone to like something, to stand back fully. I always refuse to talk to my daughter about it, telling her she'll have to wait, but she knows that I'm obsessed with Spike so she would come to watch with expectations too. Even though I've tried to not spoil it. Some things are just unavoidable. But having had a suggestion of which episodes matter is a shame. I'm glad she didn't only watch those though.

                She does seem smitten by Angel here. And yes, she loves Buffy and Willow. It's cool because they're both my favourites and I was curious if she would continue to love them through the whole show. I won't talk about her reactions to future characters cos I don't want to accidentally spoil you! Enjoyed your thoughts on the other reactor SoFieReacts as well! Yes Willow seems to be an instant favourite with most reactors. I personally love her 'he stole my Barbie' line in this episode (and Buffy's "seize the day" advice.) It's interesting to see how different reactors respond with almost instant love for Willow but hate for Cordy. I liked Willow too but didn't immediately dislike Cordy, I think I just assumed she'd be bitchy and popular but don't remember particularly disliking her, lol. (No one disliked Cordy more than Liam Duke did in the beginning lol)
                Liam was hilarious about Cordy. I was very much the same as you, thought she was just a bitchy popular girl. Which is part of why I love OOMOOS so much, getting some insight into her persona under the surface. I hope ASR shared that one.

                domi e.'s reaction to Cordy was completely affected by her having seen large chunks of AtS. I think Willow is generally adorable in the first episode and so accepting of the mean treatment you want to coddle her and it gets everyone feeling protective of her. Generally those I've watched so far do seem to just accept Cordelia as being there to illustrate the social hierarchy of school and will criticise her meanness but don't greatly hate her. Apart from Liam.

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                • #9
                  Okay, I had a half hour to fill so I've watched The Harvest reactions from...

                  SoFieReacts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V55R...mThf4v4s3UgpH4
                  Her concern for the sewer smell amused me. Her squick factor with the visual of the Master really is funny too. Otherwise pretty standard wariness towards Angel sneaking around and not impressed with Cordelia's attitude.

                  I'm not sure if what she sees as the cheesiness isn't a bit of a barrier for her at the moment and her wish for more details and explanations.
                  It's odd dropping back and seeing someone who's not caught up in the character stories yet. I really can't gauge how much she's getting from this yet, it's still way too early.


                  ASR - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a36-rx9xXAg
                  Definitely more intrigued than wary of Angel. Interesting that she thought they might be working up to a love triangle with Angel, Buffy and Xander. I suppose it is a shadow of that. Wasn't there some consideration to making Buffy and Xander a couple early on? I think I might have heard that once (or I've imagined I did).

                  She says she's enjoying it and seems happy enough when watching but not really adding to the base reaction at this point. Again too early to get an impression of how engaged she's going to get. Pretty sure she's going to be a solid fan of Angel though going by how her face lit up when he came on screen.

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                  • #10
                    Another couple of new reactors, both seem to have only done the first two episodes. Cyber Manor has 142k subsribers, riley lynn seems to only just be starting and BtVS her only uploads.

                    Cyber Manor - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...2r8w-rtj3JQWHU
                    riley Lynn - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC23...vLBDw/featured

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                    • #11
                      Priceless flow SpuffyGlitz
                      I watched the reactions for Welcome to the Hellmouth and The Harvest for the new reactor Priceless found - DodoReactions, so thought I'd post about it in the S1 thread.

                      1.01 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD3fK_VQ3U0&t=1s and 2nd part - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNspFIfZ76k. Like flow said, no idea why he's splitting them in two.

                      I was so amused by his response to the body falling out of the locker, 'kinda traumatising, I guess'.

                      It was interesting that he was disappointed that we didn't get to see Buffy find out she is The Slayer. It suggests he might really like how much the show digs into the emotional responses to events/experiences. Plenty of positive comments for the first episode.

                      1.02 The Harvest - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyalGfTHjKo , again in two parts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO26SJRmBbQ

                      I always roll my eyes at Giles' comment about wresting knowledge 'from that dread machine' as an example of 'Britishness', so DodoReactions saying 'how British' before Giles says it himself nearly made me choke? OMG, is that really how people think British people talk?! That can't actually be serious. Is it?

                      He made such a great point about Angel showing up in the mausoleum in the middle of the day when Buffy goes after Jesse. I can't remember ever thinking about that.

                      Having Buffy and Cordelia as initial favourites is interesting and a bit different. So far the reactors I've seen have tended to prefer Willow initially. He's going to have to get used to accepting the residents of Sunnydale like to live in denial or look the other way.

                      I like this guy and don't notice anything funny about his accent flow. If only he'd stop splitting the vids.

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                      • #12
                        Stoney I
                        always roll my eyes at Giles' comment about wresting knowledge 'from that dread machine' as an example of 'Britishness', so DodoReactions saying 'how British' before Giles says it himself nearly made me choke? OMG, is that really how people think British people talk?! That can't actually be serious. Is it?
                        I was actually surprised by his comments, so, no, I don't think technophobia is something that first comes to our minds when we think of Brits.

                        It was interesting that he was disappointed that we didn't get to see Buffy find out she is The Slayer.
                        I think this is a cultural stereotype. we Germans like to do things in a linear way. So, Buffy is a normal girl, becomes the slayer, finds out, and works as the slayer would be the way we would present it in a tv show.

                        I think I am going to keep following him for the time being. I only am following Geeked Out Nation right now and he is very slow on Buffy updates. At least I will follow him until my son sets up his own Buffy reaction channel

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                        • TimeTravellingBunny
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                          "we Germans like to do things in a linear way"
                          How did Germans come up with Dark?

                        • flow
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                          Maybe it's a new generation?

                      • #13
                        Yes, I'm going to try to keep up with this guy and might try to watch ASR alongside his. But I reeeeeally want to get back to watching Liam and van who I parked in S3. It'd be fun though to be watching some S1 reactions, S3 and S4.

                        You should tell your son that he would have an audience all ready to avidly watch him. We're all here, waiting.

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                        • Stoney
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                          Why/how?!

                        • flow
                          flow commented
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                          I guess he wants to get all the equipment you need to run a reaction channel on YouTube :-)

                        • Stoney
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                          I was meaning more why and how did you get into such a conversation with him.

                      • #14
                        I think he's splitting the videos because you can use 10 minutes of whatever you're reacting to. You see others reactors do a 10 minute countdown ( can't remember if he does one too). So maybe he splits them so he can show 20 minutes of each Buffy episode?

                        I've heard several reactors say they wished the show had started at Buffy's original calling. I think shows nowadays start that way so that's what young reactors are used to seeing, and this must feel like starting in the middle to them.

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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                          I think he's splitting the videos because you can use 10 minutes of whatever you're reacting to. You see others reactors do a 10 minute countdown ( can't remember if he does one too). So maybe he splits them so he can show 20 minutes of each Buffy episode?
                          I don't understand, it seems odd to me, I haven't seen it before.

                          I've heard several reactors say they wished the show had started at Buffy's original calling. I think shows nowadays start that way so that's what young reactors are used to seeing, and this must feel like starting in the middle to them.
                          Well hopefully he'll like the non linear style and see the flashbacks as the treats they are when they come.

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                          • #16
                            Dodo's reaction to Witch is up - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwzFK3UjpPE, another I'll hopefully see later on. It looks like it was uploaded the same time as the first two episode so I'm not really sure how I managed to miss it before.

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                            • #17
                              I saw DodoReactions' video for Witch. I loved his response to the reveal of the body switch. Really funny how scary he found it, but I'm glad he enjoyed the episode so much. I thought his sympathetic comments at the end for the clichéd depiction of cheerleaders were interesting.

                              And I did watch ASR's response to Witch too - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIsl...bYqz0v9uhx7hOj
                              I know I commented on this before, but the difference in the sound and picture quality of this older reaction is so much greater than I would have expected it to be. Regardless, her reaction to the reveal about Catherine was entertaining.

                              There's a big gap now in her YouTube reactions though as the next is Angel. I think only that and Prophecy Girl are available for S1. It's quite disappointing to have episodes missing as it stops you getting as much insight into her growing perspective as you might. Particularly when she is a reactor who (at the moment) doesn't say much after the episode. I want to keep going with her reactions to see if they start to grab me more, but as I haven't seen any of Liam's and van's for ages too I should perhaps be glad she's made big gaps.

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                              • #18
                                DodoReactions has put Teacher's Pet up - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9TnPqSKW-I.

                                His response to Xander's accusations of jealousy to Buffy was interesting because he was almost nonplussed why anyone wouldn't see this as an issue because it's a teacher and he's so clearly bothered by hearing Xander's mum knew he was going over to a teacher's house.

                                Cordelia is obviously a favourite, but I enjoyed most how much he responded to what Buffy was going through around Dr Gregory's death.

                                He's questioning Angel's age, guessing he's mid twenties, and is bothered by that age difference. The comments made me wonder if he's spoiled at all, but he's obviously not sure about the pairing.

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                                • #19
                                  DodoReactions put up NKABOTFD - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmL3Eieb7JY , it's another in two parts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InbtIOTbh2U

                                  It was an interesting reaction and he really felt for Buffy. Quite harsh on Owen I think.

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                                  • #20
                                    DodoReactions has watched The Pack:
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSaxDWbDZwU - pt1
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbK_eBdIPPc - pt2

                                    When the bullies first appear - "Is it about this pack, this pack of a$$holes?"

                                    He was entertaining through this, despite generally not liking possession storylines, apparently. I'm amused the possession/Flutie events has him questioning how far the show will take things/what else he's going to see.

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