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    Quote Originally Posted by Priceless View Post
    I've recently read a couple of dom/sub fics with Giles as the dom and I just couldn't buy it. They were both well written, one with Spike and one with Willow as the sub, and I just found it difficult to believe.
    Oh I could very much see Giles as the dom in a pairing, particularly when it comes to slash. I've read enough fics involving that angle.

    And Spike can make a very convincing sub imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver1 View Post
    Oh I could very much see Giles as the dom in a pairing, particularly when it comes to slash. I've read enough fics involving that angle.

    And Spike can make a very convincing sub imo.
    Lol, I quite believe Spike as a sub, but not with Giles. I just cannot see Giles in that sort of relationship. I think it's because of the relationships we've seen him in; Jenny and Olivia. Ripper, on the other hand could probably be more believable to me when I think of his relationships with Ethan and Joyce . . . I may have thought far too much about this

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    Oh I don't see Giles being a sub, more like a dom. Ethan would be a wonderful sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver1 View Post
    Oh I could very much see Giles as the dom in a pairing, particularly when it comes to slash. I've read enough fics involving that angle.

    And Spike can make a very convincing sub imo.
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    Lol, I quite believe Spike as a sub, but not with Giles. I just cannot see Giles in that sort of relationship. I think it's because of the relationships we've seen him in; Jenny and Olivia. Ripper, on the other hand could probably be more believable to me when I think of his relationships with Ethan and Joyce . . . I may have thought far too much about this
    Oh, Ripper is quite the Dom - and with Spike as his partner it's got lovely tension because Spike is physically capable of defeating Giles, except for the chip. I don't see BDSM as problematic because it is consensual. Granted, Spike doesn't go for safe words - he counts on the fact that he isn't going to get dusted. But there is no virtue in vanilla that I can see.

    I always figure Spike was a virgin when he was turned so his sexual education was at the hands of Dru, Angel, and Darla. We know that Angel tortured Dru until she craved pain. We know that Spike complimented Buffy in how she made it hurt in all the wrong places. I think Spike can be a dom - but he also likes the pain he gets as a sub.

    Tea and Biscuits deals with exactly the problem of Giles enjoying playing Ripper, but not wanting to be only Ripper in a sexual relationship. It's a classic fic - started when the show was still on. Takes place in a universe where Buffy died - as to her coming back that is also dealt with. Wesley is also a major character, and there are others. It's actually one of my comfort fics.
    Can we agree that the writers made everyone do and say everything with a thought to getting good ratings and being renewed. This includes everything we love as well as everything we hate.

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    I'm going to add one random personal thing in fanfiction I don't enjoy - at least - it breaks the flow for me while I'm reading (doesn't apply to anything I'm reading right now.) I tried to start writing my own fanfic for myself (lol, I'm that obsessive), and I found I kept coming up against this obstacle - breath and heartbeats.

    I really don't like when a fanfic keeps reminding us that Spike's heart doesn't beat, and he has no breath, because it spoils the way in which the character is shown emoting on the show. Of course, he's a vampire and doesn't have breath or a heart, but we're meant to know that metaphorically, if it's taken too literally how do we convey emotion or excitement? Or explain all the heavy breathing/ panting he does in intimate scenes, fighting or kissing? It's disconcerting in a fic to keep bringing that up.
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    Since talking about the cliches in fan fics, I realize I’m not as familiar with the most popular fics that feature a lot of pairings that you guys mention. I know most of the classic Spuffy and Bangel fics and some Slash and Fanged Four sexcapades. But what are the classic Spangel fics? Or Spander? Or Billow? Or Bander? Or Fuffy (Baith?) Or Spara? Or whatever pairing floats your boat?

    I’m especially curious about fics that go beyond comedy or casual porn and make a real case for the relationship within the limitations of canon characterizations. Meaning no All Human or Alt Universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpuffyGlitz View Post
    I'm going to add one random personal thing in fanfiction I don't enjoy - at least - it breaks the flow for me while I'm reading (doesn't apply to anything I'm reading right now.) I tried to start writing my own fanfic for myself (lol, I'm that obsessive), and I found I kept coming up against this obstacle - breath and heartbeats.

    I really don't like when a fanfic keeps reminding us that Spike's heart doesn't beat, and he has no breath, because it spoils the way in which the character is shown emoting on the show. Of course, he's a vampire and doesn't have breath or a heart, but we're meant to know that metaphorically, if it's taken too literally how do we convey emotion or excitement? Or explain all the heavy breathing/ panting he does in intimate scenes, fighting or kissing? It's disconcerting in a fic to keep bringing that up.
    I can go with breath because you have to breath to talk - heartbeat I take too literally, as I do pulse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Aurora View Post
    Since talking about the cliches in fan fics, I realize I’m not as familiar with the most popular fics that feature a lot of pairings that you guys mention. I know most of the classic Spuffy and Bangel fics and some Slash and Fanged Four sexcapades. But what are the classic Spangel fics? Or Spander? Or Billow? Or Bander? Or Fuffy (Baith?) Or Spara? Or whatever pairing floats your boat?

    I’m especially curious about fics that go beyond comedy or casual porn and make a real case for the relationship within the limitations of canon characterizations. Meaning no All Human or Alt Universe.
    This looks like it could be a thread of it's own in General and I would love to answer. We've been reminded this is the Spuffy community - so go start one!
    Can we agree that the writers made everyone do and say everything with a thought to getting good ratings and being renewed. This includes everything we love as well as everything we hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bespangled View Post
    This looks like it could be a thread of it's own in General and I would love to answer. We've been reminded this is the Spuffy community - so go start one!
    This isn't a Spuffy specific section (I think you're thinking about a conversation in the Spuffy appreciation group), this a general thread, but it is about dislikes in fics so perhaps for recommendations a different one would be better. Perhaps the 'Looking for a fic' thread would be fine for answering.

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    One thing: Spike does purr in "School Hard". There are a couple of things like that that people say are fanon, when they were actually on the show once. Nobody is obligated to like it, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American Aurora View Post
    Since talking about the cliches in fan fics, I realize I’m not as familiar with the most popular fics that feature a lot of pairings that you guys mention. I know most of the classic Spuffy and Bangel fics and some Slash and Fanged Four sexcapades. But what are the classic Spangel fics? Or Spander? Or Billow? Or Bander? Or Fuffy (Baith?) Or Spara? Or whatever pairing floats your boat?

    I’m especially curious about fics that go beyond comedy or casual porn and make a real case for the relationship within the limitations of canon characterizations. Meaning no All Human or Alt Universe.
    Thank you for starting up the new thread - I've wanted to ask that question myself. I have no issue with any pairs, except Connor and Cordy - but there are pairs I would love to see through a shipper's eyes. It can be low ship - I have a few of those. I like the fact that you've gotten a few answers - sorry if I left too many!
    Can we agree that the writers made everyone do and say everything with a thought to getting good ratings and being renewed. This includes everything we love as well as everything we hate.

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    Sigh...I'm beginning to feel I should be more selective. Provided it's a) not boring b) not complicated plot-wise. I don't care. I don't care about canon, souls, purring, or fingers on lips. I'm beginning to feel like someone who shops in a budget supermarket surrounded by people in designer clothes who know about wine. I just ask writers don't misuse apostrophes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriBel View Post
    Sigh...I'm beginning to feel I should be more selective. Provided it's a) not boring b) not complicated plot-wise. I don't care. I don't care about canon, souls, purring, or fingers on lips. I'm beginning to feel like someone who shops in a budget supermarket surrounded by people in designer clothes who know about wine. I just ask writers don't misuse apostrophes.
    Yup - while those idiots pay full price, you find designer clothes on a budget. Your house is filled with rare treasures, and you have people constantly complimenting you and asking your advice.
    Can we agree that the writers made everyone do and say everything with a thought to getting good ratings and being renewed. This includes everything we love as well as everything we hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bespangled View Post
    Yup - while those idiots pay full price, you find designer clothes on a budget. Your house is filled with rare treasures, and you have people constantly complimenting you and asking your advice.
    This happens. Are you stalking me and visiting my basement? Not that I have a basement...if you're in a basement, you're in the wrong house.

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    Crap - let me get some of their stuff - we can split the take!
    Can we agree that the writers made everyone do and say everything with a thought to getting good ratings and being renewed. This includes everything we love as well as everything we hate.

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    I've discovered that I don't like VampBuffy. It just feels wrong that she's made a vampire. It's one of her deepest fears, and I hate to think of her having to exist like that, becoming the thing she'd least want to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priceless View Post
    I've discovered that I don't like VampBuffy. It just feels wrong that she's made a vampire. It's one of her deepest fears, and I hate to think of her having to exist like that, becoming the thing she'd least want to be.
    I don't like William...I'm sure Spike wouldn't want to return to that.

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    Aww, I don't mind either so long as It's written well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriBel View Post
    I don't like William...I'm sure Spike wouldn't want to return to that.
    How can you not like William, he's a sweetie-pie. You're just mean

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    Aww, I don't mind either so long as It's written well.
    Maybe I've never read a good VampBuffy fic. I've read a great VampDawn fic though

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    Did you read Slayer Rising by sigyn ? It has a Vamp/Buffy, but she is ensouled. I was completely put off by the idea of a Vamp/Buffy, but I really love that story.

    I have blood type O negative. I don`t know, if I am right or if it is selective reading, but in every fanfic, that deals with the topic of blood types, vampires seem to prefer O negative. It makes me feel uncomfortable....

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    How can you not like William, he's a sweetie-pie. You're just mean
    Never claimed to be otherwise...and I've been called worse . Meh...one person's sweetie-pie is another person's wimp And there's one series (is it Jumpverse?) where he's definitely not a sweetie-pie! Actually, I prefer the modern day settings. And look at my signature!

    No - it's Bittersweets by Herself:"Tuberculosis, gonorrhea, and unpleasant revelations aren't the only things Buffy brings back with her from her sojourn in London, 1880".
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