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    I don't think I've read many fics with the gem of amara. Why do you hate it so much, flow? Is it because it makes things much easier for the vampire characters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flow View Post
    I just started to read a funny, brilliant fantastic fanfic and suddenly - poop - the Gem of Amara comes along and everything falls apart.
    Oh! I hope it was mine! (Because funny, brilliant and fantastic are good things.) Although the GoA doesn't actually get used much in my story, except to help the vampire character "pass". And presumably to win some prior-to-story battles. So it probably wasn't my story. Boo.

    One of my favorite non-Spuffy stories has a B plot of Spike searching for leads on finding the GoA, but the actual ring doesn't make an appearance.

    I see the point about disliking any one thing solving All The Problems especially as opposed to personal growth doing the necessary but if it isn't used that way, I don't mind the GoA. At least it's canon, unlike claiming which is too often used to Fix Everything.
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    OK, this isn't really a dislike, but nor is it a like. I have noticed that in future fics, when Buffy marries a normal guy, he's often named Brian. I might be over stating this, and her husband might not always be called Brian, but that name seems to be used a lot in fanfics (or am I talking nonsense )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghoststar View Post
    IIRC, someone on the AI team does the math and figures out that around 18 years passed for Connor while he was in Quor-Toth, which would line up well with his physical appearance. Shortly after W&H rewrites history at the end of season 4, Connor's celebrating his college admission, so he's probably 17-18 years old. I still find a lot of squick in their sexual encounter, due to a) Cordelia being sort of involved with his dad; b) said dad watching them from a rooftop; and c) Quor-Toth having failed to prepare Connor for any kind of relationship with anyone. Honestly, though, I feel like I would've been fine with it if it had taken place after a reveal about what was really going on, or if Angel & Co. had actually paid attention to how insane the situation was when Angel first saw it happening. It's one thing if a demonic entity steals a hero's body and takes advantage of a barely-legal and borderline-insane recent orphan. I mean, it's obviously bad for everyone involved in-universe, but it's just bad guys being bad guys. Trying to handle the relationship dynamics between Angel, Cordelia, Connor, and all Angel's allies, while this was supposed to be the real Cordelia, made me crave some extra-strength brain bleach.
    It was extra squicky - but technically speaking Cordelia is 23 years old and Connor is 18. I have the same problem with Bangel. When I see 16 year old Buffy and half naked 27 year old Angel (forget about the extra 250 years) I just feel this revulsion. The older I get, the more that age difference repels me. But it doesn't keep me from crying when Buffy has to send him to hell - and I do like IWRY when Buffy is 19 and out of high school.

    Angel is an ephebophile who only cares about Buffy as long as she's a schoolgirl who's never had sex with anyone but him. Look, their relationship is not lacking in ethical complications, including the fact that he probably was initially attracted to her in part by her inexperience, both sexual and otherwise. She fits much the same type as Drusilla, minus the Catholicism. But. His longest, and arguably strongest, relationship was with a jaded ex-prostitute vampire who was older than he was, so extreme youth and inexperience clearly aren't requirements for keeping his interest.
    Darla was attractive to Angel - and she was his unsoulmate. But it was Angelus who like to destroy the purity of young virgins. And I think that is part of why Angel slept with Buffy. Old instinct - I assume she was the first vulnerable young girl he had interacted with since he got his soul. Stories that excuse Angel's choice to sleep with a 17 year old on the basis that he didn't know about the curse drive me nuts. Even if there were no curse he should have kept it zipped. He knew it was wrong - he said it repeatedly.

    I'd say Cangel - for all it's problems - is a better example of Angel not just liking teenagers. Bangel stories that tend toward using the same melodrama, or else everything is resolved and happy. I prefer stories that actually address the problems inherent in their relationship.

    Spike does everything right in season 6 and solves all the group's problems. I love Spike! Spike is my fave. He's also a hot mess who can't fix his own (un)life, much less the whole town of Sunnydale's. This isn't a complaint about all fics that change some of Spike's behavior; the season 6 canon really is messy and inconsistent. OTOH, even if you have a problem with that season's writing, there's nothing in the previous seasons that would make me think Spike could or would end supernatural crime, willingly stick with pigs' blood, make the Summerses rich, and end Buffy's pining over her exes, all in less than a year.
    Oh, so much yes. Spike as the font of wisdom is so cringe worthy. That's true in any Spike relationship story - but it is rampant in Spuffy. I also hate Spike as the abused "little one" in Spangel stories who comes home to his sire to be healed. Please - Spike is an ******* and he loves being an *******. Taking away his edge makes him so boring.

    Riley's entire life focus, from season 5 on, will always be jealousy of Spike. Between "New Moon Rising" and "Buffy vs. Dracula," it's clear that Riley has a lot of insecurities about Buffy's attraction to vampires, but it's also clear that this has less to do with any one vampire's history and more to do with the general idea that she's dissatisfied with human lovers. The vampire she was actually, by her own admission, in a serious relationship with? Is Angel. Who lives in L.A., and isn't exactly keeping a low profile. Does Riley ever try to manufacture a reason for the Initiative to take down Angel? Nope. When he attacks Angel in "The Yoko Factor," he doesn't even know who Angel is. So why would he spend the rest of his life brooding over Spike, someone he doesn't think has a chance with Buffy in season 5, and whom she won't admit dating in season 6? Because Spike revealed his bloodsucking sessions to Buffy? Nah. He has plenty of chances to get even with him, and, aside from one stab wound, inflicted within hours of Spike tattling on him, that he knows Spike will recover from, he doesn't take them. It would be easy, at any time, to arrange a dusting for a guy who gets into as many fights as Spike does, or to lob a grenade in Spike's direction during the chaotic fight against the demon hatchlings in "As You Were," or to just not send a team with orders to follow Buffy's wishes in all matters related to Hostile 17 in "The Killer Inside Me." The only common-sense explanation that I see for Riley's behavior is the simplest: He moves on.
    I don't see it as his entire life focus - but I also can't see Spike as an international arms dealer. I think he was a patsy who agreed to take care of the eggs when Doc left town because the heat was on. But I have to say that superheroes Riley and Sam are insanely unbelievable - and wildly cringe worthy. I really wish that when Riley moved on he stayed away.
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    i hate emotional character torture/mortification, and that is why i really hate both of the canon episodes 'doublemeat palace' and 'as you were' -- both of them emotionally castrated Buffy -- no idea how better to put it. This is not fanfic, of course, but i hate to see it in any fiction... if you emasculate your character, particularly your lead character -- especially with a ridiculous premise, I will hate it. Goes double when that character is a woman. Buffy vs penis monster, smelling like stale grease and being mocked by lame vampires, Buffy screwing behind a dumpster and being humiliated in front of her ex in myriad ways (the same ex who was cheating on her with vampires and could have brought home the grand gift of vampirism to Buffy and her family!) And then meeting the perfect new 'replacement Buffy' who has all her #%# together... Just kick in the teeth after kick in the teeth. That sort of thing just bugs me.

    In fanfic, the person who seems to bear the brunt of such treatment is Xander (but that tends more to devolve rapidly into character bashing, not just misery), but some people do it to Buffy so she can be 'rescued' or 'comforted' by someone, usually Spike. I don't need to see my hero dragged backwards through hedges coated in sewage. It's ugly and doesn't make me want to keep reading. (This isn't the same thing as bad stuff happening to people -- it's an attitude of writing as much as content).

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    If I read one more "Willow the control freak who controls everybody" fic, I'll kill myself. Same goes for "Willow screws up a spell and now Xander is a girl/puppy/Spike's pet/invisible.... etc"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepBlueJoy View Post
    i hate emotional character torture/mortification, and that is why i really hate both of the canon episodes 'doublemeat palace' and 'as you were' -- both of them emotionally castrated Buffy -- no idea how better to put it. This is not fanfic, of course, but i hate to see it in any fiction... if you emasculate your character, particularly your lead character -- especially with a ridiculous premise, I will hate it. Goes double when that character is a woman. Buffy vs penis monster, smelling like stale grease and being mocked by lame vampires, Buffy screwing behind a dumpster and being humiliated in front of her ex in myriad ways (the same ex who was cheating on her with vampires and could have brought home the grand gift of vampirism to Buffy and her family!) And then meeting the perfect new 'replacement Buffy' who has all her #%# together... Just kick in the teeth after kick in the teeth. That sort of thing just bugs me.

    In fanfic, the person who seems to bear the brunt of such treatment is Xander (but that tends more to devolve rapidly into character bashing, not just misery), but some people do it to Buffy so she can be 'rescued' or 'comforted' by someone, usually Spike. I don't need to see my hero dragged backwards through hedges coated in sewage. It's ugly and doesn't make me want to keep reading. (This isn't the same thing as bad stuff happening to people -- it's an attitude of writing as much as content).
    Right there with you - in the Spike fanfic community it's called hurt the pretty. Spike becomes a rent boy and/or stripper used for rough sex and is starving because of the chip...and that's actually as nice as it gets. Spike is captured and horrifically abused and tortured by someone taking revenge; Spike is captured and horrifically abused and used as a weapon. I have learned more about torture, bondage, sadism (without a safe word) and ways to drive someone insane...it's intense. He is beaten, raped, starved, whipped, carved, bound into bizarre positions, encased in metal, and left for months in a sensory deprivation module of some sort. And all that can be in the same story. He is blinded, and unable to speak, horribly scarred, and barely able to walk because his broken bones healed wrong - again, one story

    I've read some and there are excellent ones, if you have the stomach for them. But now I avoid them. I've seen him rescued by Angel, Buffy, Giles, Xander, and Willow - individually or in combinations. Then again, I've seen Angel, Xander, Buffy, Giles, Wesley, and Willow play hurt the pretty - as well as some OC. No other character gets that sort of abuse that I know of. The humans wouldn't survive, and I don't think it ever became an Angel trope.
    Bottom line is, even if you see them coming, you're not ready for the big moments...The big moments are gonna come, you can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that counts. That's when you find out who you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bespangled View Post
    I have learned more about torture, bondage, sadism (without a safe word) and ways to drive someone insane...it's intense. He is beaten, raped, starved, whipped, carved, bound into bizarre positions, encased in metal, and left for months in a sensory deprivation module of some sort. And all that can be in the same story. He is blinded, and unable to speak, horribly scarred, and barely able to walk because his broken bones healed wrong - again, one story
    I have read a story like that with Xander, but I don't remember its name. I couldn't sleep that night, thinking about the cruelty of the world. I gave up on it when a broken, blind Xander got kidnapped again.

    Quote Originally Posted by bespangled View Post
    I've read some and there are excellent ones, if you have the stomach for them. But now I avoid them. I've seen him rescued by Angel, Buffy, Giles, Xander, and Willow - individually or in combinations. Then again, I've seen Angel, Xander, Buffy, Giles, Wesley, and Willow play hurt the pretty - as well as some OC. No other character gets that sort of abuse that I know of. The humans wouldn't survive, and I don't think it ever became an Angel trope.
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    Aww, It's just good old hurt/comfort fics that have been doing the rounds since day one. To this day I don't have any problem with them, It's just finding good writers the issue for me.

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    I'm a real sucker for hurt/comfort I have to admit. That, alternate settings and good Dawn & Spike friendships are my weak spots.

    But I have read fics where Spike is brutalised, tortured, maimed and raped to extremes of violence so that it's deeply sickening. It can be taken waaaay further than is necessary for the premise of hurt/comfort imo, and I'm accepting some pretty cruel and disturbing attacks can have narrative value. But I think there's definitely a level that, for me, just gets gratuitous and actually starts to make me unsettled as to why we're getting yet another highly graphic scene of yet another brutal attack that isn't adding anything to the story. As always it's subjective I suppose.

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    I went through a phase where I only read fics where Xander is brutalised, tortured, maimed and raped, and I used to completely lose interest when we get to the comfort part. I especially liked the ones with Xander's father as the rapist. Those old basement fics.

    I still love Xander-angst fics. One of my favorite fics is The Bargain by Immortal_Kat. It's just so twisted and makes me feel unsettled, but I still wanna read because the Xander hurt is so delicious.
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    My basic premise is: I don't like lots of stuff but exceptions frequently prove the rule.

    I despise those glorified martyr and misery porn narratives where the prime characterisation of the protagonist boils down to "righteously wallowing in superhuman victimhood". I've no idea how I'm supposed to relate to that, let alone identify with, without feeling like an entitled, whiny, narcissistic brat who fancies a solipsistic lifestyle. To make things worse: those kind of narratives often come along with the obligatory scapegoat to channel my "righteous" hate and resentment born out of The Injustice Of It All. So, since I'm supposed to enjoy scapegoating the scapegoat, I'm not only entitled, whiny and narcissistic but vindictive and hateful, too. But then it turns around: The victim-protagonist is, of course, still a noble selfless hero despite the f*cked-up-ness. And even if they act dysfunctional, it's kind of the scapegoat's fault anyway, because poor superhuman victims don't bear accountability and do the wrongness due to the f*cked-up-ness to begin with. So, I'm entitled, whiny, narcissistic, hateful, vindictive and probably dangerous. But I'm still the f*cking awesome hero and totally innocent! (*assuredly patting myself on the back*).

    That I'm also a pervert, because The Gentle Reader enjoys the protagonist getting it up the ass by their White Knight lover(s) is just the icing on the cake of ****ed-up-mania.

    Well, mostly despise... sometimes such stories are just unintentionally really funny.

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    Gotta say I don't think I've ever read anything like you're describing.

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    I think one of the things I don't like reading is excessive emotional cruelty - even in subtle ways - especially when it's left unexplained. It just unsettles me. And Buffy bashing is awful to read, but bashing in general isn't fun (unless it's mild and not meant to be serious at all.) Also don't like too much blame placed on one character solely.

    One thing I especially don't like to read (I guess this applies strictly to Spuffy fiction) is when their whole relationship is boiled down to "Buffy-guilt" or "Buffy-feeling-guilty-over-treating-Spike-unfairly". So that when they finally do get together in the fic, their reconciliation is usually played out in some form of Buffy enduring insults, incredibly hurtful treatment or humiliation from Spike wordlessly. (This also makes Spike a little unlikeable for me). Or when Buffy basically re-writes/discounts everything she's said in canon by then saying, in effect, "I'm sorry I was a bitch to you for so long, everything I said before this was BS, but NOW I mean it when I say - [insert new declaration of love]." It's just a popular trope I don't enjoy when it's overdone or done in an overly black/ white way, but there are exceptions to the rule. Sometimes it's great when it's sensitively written and there's a lot of communication and comfort at the end.

    I also don't like Xander or Giles depicted as being too stereotypically anti-Spuffy - it's fine so long as it's consistent with canon -- but when they're just being super hateful/rigid in the fic for no rhyme or reason it feels odd and starts to feel like bashing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpuffyGlitz View Post
    One thing I especially don't like to read (I guess this applies strictly to Spuffy fiction) is when their whole relationship is boiled down to "Buffy-guilt" or "Buffy-feeling-guilty-over-treating-Spike-unfairly".
    It's not just Spuffy. Spander had its fair share of this. Also, even though I've never read it, I'd say it most likely applies to Spangel, too.


    Quote Originally Posted by SpuffyGlitz View Post
    I also don't like Xander or Giles depicted as being too stereotypically anti-Spuffy - it's fine so long as it's consistent with canon -- but when they're just being super hateful/rigid in the fic for no rhyme or reason it feels odd and starts to feel like bashing.
    What baffles me in recent years Spuffy fics is how Willow is written as super anti-Spike and Spuffy. I don't remember Willow hating Spike on the show. In fact, she was always written as the most sympathetic towards Spike of all the core four.
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    Yeah, if you remember, how she encouraged him to try biting her again in The Initiative ... Which was actually supercute somehow.

    I don`t now, if it is recent but there are fics, where Willow, Xander and Giles (usually all three of them together) are absolute control freaks who basically tell Buffy what she should wear, whom she whould date and how she should live. Until one day Buffy - usually supported by Spike and Dawn - tells them, how she has always hated them and throws them out of her house and her life.

    Sometimes one of the three comes around in time to be forgiven, but it is usually Giles, not Willow or Xander.

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    I don't think I've read many fics with the gem of amara. Why do you hate it so much, flow? Is it because it makes things much easier for the vampire characters?
    I hate it because it does not only make it easier for vampires, it makes nothing difficult anymore.

    Vampires are super strong, they have enhanced senses, they are fast, they don`t catch diseases, they don`t age, they don`t die of natural deaths. Nor do they drown, starve or die from bullet wounds. Which leads to the logical question: why don`t they rule the world?

    Because all those supernatural features come with a few limitations. The can`t walk in daylight. Sun, fire and a stake through the heart will kill them instantly. Those are pretty minor limitations if you consider their huge advantages. Still, those limitations provide for some kind of balance between humans and vampires. Humans can kill vampires and vampires cannot overrun earth, because they have to use the sewers.

    But a vampire who has got the Gem of Amara can walk in daylight and can`t be killed by a stake or fire. I don`t know, if decapitation would still work. Interesting thought. But my point is - what kind of story is there left to tell, if one of your protagonists can do EVERYTHING and NOTHING can stop him.

    I am a huge fan of the Potter books. In book seven Harry Potter is still nothing more but a seventeen year old boy, who has dropped out of school and who is a mediocre wizard except when it comes to flying broomsticks. That`s the one and only Thing, he is really good at. Still, he goes up against the most powerful dark wizard of all times. And until almost the end of book seven I still thought "Oh my god, he is never going to make it." But he did. That`s fantastic storytelling. Imagine, Harry would have had the Potterverse equivalent of the Gem of Amara. The series would have been absolutely boring.

    The only interesting thing, you could do with the Gem of Amara, would be, to give it to Spike, have him fight against Buffy and let Buffy win nonetheless. But we had that on the show. That story has already been told.

    It might also be interesting, to have an evil vampire, who has the Gem of Amara and rules Sunnydale with an iron fist while Buffy and the Scoobies have to hide from him but still try to fight him. I have never seen such a fic though. And it would be pretty dark. The only fics I ever see, are those, where the Gem of Amara is used, so Spike can walk hand in hand with Buffy in broad daylight.

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    Oh! I hope it was mine! (
    I didn`t know, you have written a story where the Gem of Amara makes an appearance! So, no. I am sorry. It`s not yours. Which story of yours has the Gem of Amara in it?

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    OK, this isn't really a dislike, but nor is it a like. I have noticed that in future fics, when Buffy marries a normal guy, he's often named Brian.
    I haven`t noticed the name Brian yet but I have noticed, that Buffy is often married to guys with a rather common given name like Arthur, Matthew, Richard ... I`ve never seen a Buffy husband with an unsual given name, like Vladimir or Keanu or Aidan or something like that.

    One more thing I hate - although they did it in the comics as well - is either Buffy and whoever or Dawn and whoever naming their first daughter Joyce. If my mother had named me after one of my grandmoms, I`d never had forgiven her. Why should a newly born being be burdened with the name of a deceased?

    bespangeled:
    No other character gets that sort of abuse that I know of. The humans wouldn't survive, and I don't think it ever became an Angel trope.
    That`s because Spike is still sexy, even if he is in pain. Or maybe because he is sexiest, when he is in pain...

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    But I have read fics where Spike is brutalised, tortured, maimed and raped to extremes of violence so that it's deeply sickening.
    Ive read a fic once, where Buffy brutally tortured Spike to the death. It was just a very short story and I was half way through, before I realised, what happened. I still read on, because I was expecting some plot twist. After all, this was labelled a Spuffy story. But the plot Twist never happened. I still haven`t got rid of those mental Images, but the worst thing was not that Spike was tortured but that Buffy was made a monster.

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    I haven`t noticed the name Brian yet but I have noticed, that Buffy is often married to guys with a rather common given name like Arthur, Matthew, Richard ... I`ve never seen a Buffy husband with an unsual given name, like Vladimir or Keanu or Aidan or something like that.

    One more thing I hate - although they did it in the comics as well - is either Buffy and whoever or Dawn and whoever naming their first daughter Joyce. If my mother had named me after one of my grandmoms, I`d never had forgiven her. Why should a newly born being be burdened with the name of a deceased?
    Maybe when I've read fics with Buffy married to someone called Richard or Matthew, I've substituted the name Brian, because Brian is (in the UK) both old-fashioned and dull. (Apologies to anyone called Brian, but there are no baby Brians anymore) I think that's what the authors want us to read into Buffy's husbands, that they are dull and old fashioned, so they can't have a name like Vlad or Aidan, which are not dull names.

    I also totally agree that naming your child Joyce is a terrible decision. To me, if was bad-fanficcy and pandering to fans. It could have been her middle name, but not her first name. In my head I believe Joss did it to include Joyce (mum) in the final, and I can live with that.

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    Didn't Brian Dowling (of Big Brother fame) dispel the Brian stereotype a little bit. Really amused now that his surname was another potential love interest for Buffy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    Didn't Brian Dowling (of Big Brother fame) dispel the Brian stereotype a little bit? Really amused now that his surname was another potential love interest for Buffy.
    So true. Do you think Joss is a Big Brother fan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flow View Post
    Ive read a fic once, where Buffy brutally tortured Spike to the death. It was just a very short story and I was half way through, before I realised, what happened. I still read on, because I was expecting some plot twist. After all, this was labelled a Spuffy story. But the plot Twist never happened. I still haven`t got rid of those mental Images, but the worst thing was not that Spike was tortured but that Buffy was made a monster.
    I'm pretty sure I've read that one too. I was shocked!

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