That's a very interesting way to approach watching the show. Are the people actually fans of the characters they are pov-ing? To do it justice, they really do need to be fans to fight their characters corner. I'll definitely give it a listen, though they don't sound very open minded.Originally Posted by Sosa lola
TriBel (02-02-18)
I don't listen to Podcasts. I don't generally like Podcasts. I lie - I listen to Welcome to Nightvale but Welcome to Nightvale isn't a podcast - it's a recipe for life! I don't listen to Podcasts or read "Metas" because, more often than not, there's a bias in them and I'm not used to reading material that's biased. Academic essays can be dry but I'm never left thinking they prefer one character over another. And God forbid they'd hate a character!
I like Jane Espenson! I don't think fans realise just how clever she is (I hate it when fans claim writers are stupid. The writers, poets etc I work with are lots of things but stupid they ain't!). She worked with George Lakoff at Berkeley and he credits her with some of his ideas on metaphor. He also mentions her in his later book "Philosophy in the Flesh: The Embodied Mind and Its Challenge to Western Thought". IMO, "the embodied mind" is what we see in S7. I'd like to meet her (not saying it would be reciprocated - I'd probably bore her to death...sigh,I met Jane at a Buffy convention years back and she was so, so nice. She did a live commentary on Pangs which was wonderful. I ended up not only being a
fan of her writing but her as a person.
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Silver1 (02-02-18)
I tend to listen to EVERY podcast and then just stop listening once they start saying things that I completely disagree withI don't listen to Podcasts. I don't generally like Podcasts. I lie - I listen to Welcome to Nightvale but Welcome to Nightvale isn't a podcast - it's a recipe for life! I don't listen to Podcasts or read "Metas" because, more often than not, there's a bias in them and I'm not used to reading material that's biased. Academic essays can be dry but I'm never left thinking they prefer one character over another. And God forbid they'd hate a character!They are incredibly biased. Very few of the reviewers seem to be real fans of the show, and some can't even remember what happened from one episode to the next. But sometimes someone will say something you'd never thought of before, or present a character in a different light, and then it's interesting. I like Buffering because it's very queer-eyed and they obviously love the show and create great songs for each episode.
I would pay to hear you and Jane Espenson chatting over a cup of coffee! I probably would only understand every third word, but I'd love it. She is so clever, her writing is witty and charming and she obviously loves all the characters and I feel like she truly knows them and wants us to understand them and their motives as well as she understands themI like Jane Espenson! I don't think fans realise just how clever she is (I hate it when fans claim writers are stupid. The writers, poets etc I work with are lots of things but stupid they ain't!). She worked with George Lakoff at Berkeley and he credits her with some of his ideas on metaphor. He also mentions her in his later book "Philosophy in the Flesh: The Embodied Mind and Its Challenge to Western Thought". IMO, "the embodied mind" is what we see in S7. I'd like to meet her (not saying it would be reciprocated - I'd probably bore her to death...sigh,
The Buffy POV and Willow POV people are newbies watching the show for the first time so they don't really know what's gonna happen. I loved how confused they were while watching The Zeppo.
Priceless (03-02-18)
Lani Diane Rich (Still Pretty podcast) has said once she finished S7 she's starting from the beginning again. That's absolutely made my life. I used to listen to her and her-now-ex on Dusted, and he always seemed to drown her out, so I am so happy she's going to get to say all those things about the show she never got to say before
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How can they review the whole episode if they don't know what's going on! I have to listen to this podcast because it just sounds weirdThe Buffy POV and Willow POV people are newbies watching the show for the first time so they don't really know what's gonna happen. I loved how confused they were while watching The Zeppo.
Silver1 (03-02-18)
POTNīs review for A New Man is up on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BONc...9lXQ3&index=13
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Priceless (06-02-18)
Buffering the Vampire Slayer's review of Enemies is just brilliant, I was laughing out loud. If you are a fuffy fan and/or like making fun of Angel, you are missing out if you are not listening to this podcast
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If you are an Angel fan I'll admit once Buffiering turn their humour onto Spike in later seasons I may not be such a big fan, just saying my bias might start to show
I am at this very moment listening to it and it is so interesting to hear Jane Espenson talk about how scenes were changed in the production process and how detailed the episode Pangs was planned out by Joss, before the writers started writing. Thank you so much for the link !
ETA: I also found it really interesting, how she described her thorough research about the Chumash. She even drove, to where they lived and went to a museum and talked to people. And then she had no time left, for any research about the place, where Riley was born and raised. That is why, he is from Iowa, because that is, where she is from herself and she didn`t have to research that ;-)
ETA (again): There was another comment, I found interesting. I have often read, that Spike was made a member of the main cast, because Cordy, who had been the one, who threw the truth in everybodies face, had left the Show. I think, even JM himself has said something like that somwhere. But Jane Espenson clearly states in that podcast, that Anya was the substitute for Cordy, which makes a lot of sense, because Anya`s straightforwardness is very similiar to Cordy`s.
I was also listening today to After Show Reacts (to) Lovers Walk and I want to recommend it to evryone here, who is a Spike-fan. Her enthsudiasm about Spike reappearing is very sweet.
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Kristin has said that Spike is her favorite character, so I have high hopes. <3If you are an Angel fan I'll admit once Buffiering turn their humour onto Spike in later seasons I may not be such a big fan, just saying my bias might start to show
Buffering is my favorite Buffy podcast. I'm also a big fan of Still Pretty and everything Lani Diane Rich does. She is starting an Angel podcast, too, called Still Dead.
Priceless (11-02-18)
I knew Kristin had great tasteKristin has said that Spike is her favorite character, so I have high hopes. <3
Buffering is my favorite Buffy podcast. I'm also a big fan of Still Pretty and everything Lani Diane Rich does. She is starting an Angel podcast, too, called Still Dead.
Lani Diane Rich is such a good communicator. I don't agree with everything she says, but I love listening to her, she's intelligent and enthusiastic. She said recently that once she finishes Still Pretty she's going to start from the begining again, which makes me very happy. I used to listen to Dusted and felt Alistair had a tendency to talk over Lani and I can't wait to just hear her opinions without them being filtered through him.
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Watched this. She is very sweet, and it's nice to know she'd missed Spike as much as the rest of us didI was also listening today to After Show Reacts (to) Lovers Walk and I want to recommend it to evryone here, who is a Spike-fan. Her enthsudiasm about Spike reappearing is very sweet.
kimothyschma (11-02-18)
What don't you agree with? I love pretty much everything she has to say about Spike/Buffy, but we don't always agree on which other episodes are good or bad.I knew Kristin had great taste
Lani Diane Rich is such a good communicator. I don't agree with everything she says, but I love listening to her, she's intelligent and enthusiastic. She said recently that once she finishes Still Pretty she's going to start from the begining again, which makes me very happy. I used to listen to Dusted and felt Alistair had a tendency to talk over Lani and I can't wait to just hear her opinions without them being filtered through him.
I don't know if you've listened to Big Strong Yes, but it turns out things were a lot worse than that.He is not a good person.
I am glad, Lani Diane Rich is going to start all over again at season 1, once she is finished with season 7. I was just thinking the other day, how sad it is, that her vlog will be ending soon. A definite YAY ! from me for that.
I am not really a podcast fan. I listened to the one with Jane Espenson just because of her and I also listen also to the Sunnydale fanfic Club, if they have an author, that I like. But most of the times they are just too long for me to listen to.
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I admit that I have bitten off more than I can chew when it comes to podcasts. I want to listen to all of them and there's not enough time in the day. I have a big backlog in my podcasts app and thanks to this thread I'm adding more!
I am currently subscribed to 26 podcasts. God I didn't realise it was that many till just now! Not all of them Buffy ones I should add
Lani watches Buffy from a story/character perspective and although she loves S7 I'm often interpreting things very differently. Thanks to TriBel I've come to a much greater understanding of the philosophical basis of much of the season, that the season is about seeing v's understanding, the use/misuse of language and meanings within episodes that I had just never thought about before.
I don't listen to A Big Strong Yes, but it doesn't surprise me that Alistair was a bit of a dick, I always thought that when I listened to Dusted. He'd talk over Lani, laugh at his own jokes and dominate the conversation, though he could sometimes be quite interesting so I kept listening.
kimothyschma (11-02-18)
She reveals a lot about him on that podcast, in bits and pieces. He turned out to be a that's-not-even-his-real-name level liar.
Priceless (11-02-18)
Love Lani, and thought this was very good
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The Sunnydale Fanfic Club on twitter:
#BANGEL fans check out “If You Come Softly” by JilyandBambi
https://archiveofourown.org/works/11909904
SUBMIT QUESTIONS BY FEB. 16TH
#SPUFFY fans check out “A Different Kind of Hell” by OffYourBird
http://archiveofourown.org/works/11689914
SUBMIT QUESTIONS BY FEB. 20TH
#SUPERFAN submit questions for both stories!
They also have a tubmlr site, where you can post your questions. I've really enjoyed their podcasts, and the reading group has read A Different Kind Of Hell, so anyone who's read that or If You Come Softly, then I hope you'll all put forward some quesitons.
I take back whatever I said earlier. Lani - whatever her name is - is my favourite.
flow (14-02-18),kimothyschma (14-02-18),Priceless (14-02-18)
If you like Lani Diane Rich, she's starting an AtS podcast, which I am sure will be really interesting and I'll be giving it a listen.
TriBel (14-02-18)
Is she going to upset people? I only like her when she's upsetting people. I fear I'm becoming a bad person.
Priceless (14-02-18)
I believe Paul O'Grady is going to do a tv show about lost and unwanted emojis, perhaps you'll see an emoji on there that you could adoptIs she going to upset people? I only like her when she's upsetting people. I fear I'm becoming a bad person.
Oh I am sure Lani will upset someone
TriBel (14-02-18)
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