Ultimate Poll Reversal

[Pandora's_Box]

As you get it, you have to name the worst (or less good) season, episode and character of BtVS...And still just one cause it's an Ultimate...This is the place to be mean, cruel, harsh...knock yourself out

Season: 1
Because it's pretty much all stand-alones, some characters are pretty boring (poor Willow!!! Thank god she became what we know), and it looks all very cheap to me, the vampires are completely useless, only growling and showing their teeth, the Mantis, Moloch, Luke, Marcie...Thank god there's the "I'm 16, I don't wanna die"...

Episode: Buffy vs. Dracula
It's not that I don't like that episode, it's that I hate it, Dracula is so cheesy and what is he doing here, doesn't fit at all with the Buffy Mythology, Xander eating bugs...why exactly? Buffy's pretty comatose "Oh Dracula, I can't fight, I'm drown in your eyes", Giles and the drac Girls...so thrilling!!! Of course Riley is jealous and the all "your powers come from the darkness" blah blah I prefer Get it Done's perspective about that...And at the end, she can't kill him...why ? Isn't he a vampire?...Marti Noxon is way better when it comes to write drama than comedy...

Character: Riley
I'm starting to think it was designed to be disliked like a preparation between Bangel and Spuffy, when there's something stupid or boring or annoying to do, he's always the first..."Oh I'm jealous of Dracula, oh I'm jealous of Angel, oh I'm jealous of Spike" he's got a heart disease but doesn't want to be cured, always got some paranoia crisis, go to get his blood drunk by a vampire...And I don't don't remember what...I don't think there's one great Riley moment unlike all the other regular characters of BtVS...Well yes, in As you Were he finally was...what the word...oh yes personnality....

[Jenni Lou]

Season. One. And for all the reasons you mention. I couldn't say it better myself.

Episode. Oh man. It's between I Robot, You Jane, Bad Eggs or Ted. I think I will go with I Robot. It's just terrible. That ridiculous computer demon, that lame overall storyline, silly Willow. I honestly will never watch it again probably. :rolleyes:

Character. This is tough because there isn't really a character I dislike a whole lot. I guess the one I like least would be (if we are only choosing from regulars) Dawn. But only because she wasn't around as long as some of the others and didn't have a ton of good storylines for her character. :/ I would be harsh if I could but I really like all the characters. :)

[Valyssia]

Can I just say ditto to all of the above? Would that be a useful post? Prolly not...

Season: 1
For every last reason listed above. It should be noted that there are only very rare exceptions in the genre that come out swinging in their first season. The time is needed to set up the characters.

Episode: Ted
My list is the same as Jenni Lou's, but longer... I tend to avoid a lot of S4 when I wander through and watch the series. In fact, there's at least one episode from each season that I just look at, shrug and skip. I particularly hated Ted because of the cyborg nonsense. Wasn't much for the Buffybot either. Though, it had its moments the idea of human/ machine copies in this verse just really did nothing for me. I avoid the episode with Warren's synthetic GF too. It just struck me as too dumb to live.

Character: Riley
For the same reasons Pandora listed. There was plenty enough whining from all sides without adding a primary character that did nothing but. I was always pissed he got top billing and Tara/ Amber was left as a footnote. I would've far rather seen her in a more key role. ...And she actually deserved the billing. I don't think she ever got it...don't recall off hand.

Valyssia

[Jenni Lou]

I don't think she ever got it...don't recall off hand.


She did for one episode: "Seeing Red." As far as I understand it, it was Amber's choice not to be listed in the credits.

[Nikki]

Season: One definitely. No real reason to give explainations :lol:

Episode: Teachers Pet. I just hate the whole insect thing going after innocent boys and Xander blowing off Buffy's warning because she couldn't understand an older woman being attracted to him! /sigh

Character: Dawn. Without a doubt. She was so whiny so annoying, so pathetic. I thought after the whole key thing was over she would be better, but her 'nobody wants to spend time with me' in season 6 was just painful. Dark Willow says it best 'Buffy.. Willow, Tara.. whinnnee' lol

[omri]

Season:#1.I agree with you. Horrible season.
Episode:Double Meat Palace. Can you say PFFT? The whole episode is a joke!.
Character:Ummm kinda hard. But if i need to choose, Then I choose Riley. The guy annoys me!@ I want to punch him in the face. When he came back in one episode i wanted to go there and give him a slap

[LRae12]

Episode: Buffy vs. Dracula
It's not that I don't like that episode, it's that I hate it, Dracula is so cheesy and what is he doing here, doesn't fit at all with the Buffy Mythology, Xander eating bugs...why exactly? Buffy's pretty comatose "Oh Dracula, I can't fight, I'm drown in your eyes", Giles and the drac Girls...so thrilling!!! Of course Riley is jealous and the all "your powers come from the darkness" blah blah I prefer Get it Done's perspective about that...And at the end, she can't kill him...why ? Isn't he a vampire?...Marti Noxon is way better when it comes to write drama than comedy...



Can I just say that if you ever watched Anne Rice's 'Dracula' then you would find this episode HYSTERICAL...it's a total parody...:xd


Sorry, had to put my plug in for the BvsD love...:p

Season: Definitely Season 1. Everybody else has said it better, so why give any more reasons. I only watch 5 episodes out of that season normally...WTTH, The Harvest, NKABOTFD, Angel, & Prophecy Girl. The others are totally not even needed :lol:

Episode: Ted. It's a shame that others have beaten me to it, because this is the worst.episode.ever. There was nothing good about it. Ted was so obnoxious & cheesy (the character) that I puke every time I watch it (which I try not to do anymore...;) That Joyce would be so stupid to not believe her own daughter about abuse over some strange guy she's known for such a short time seriously pisses me off, so I'm changing the subject now...:p

Character: Definitely Riley-the bitch boy-Finn. Everything that comes out of his mouth is whine, whine, whine. It reminds me of the old Peanut cartoons when the teacher would talk and you'd only hear 'mwah mwah mwah mwah'...well when Riley would talk I'd only hear 'whine whine whine whine' :lol:

[Francy]

Season: 1. So childish and lame, but it was just the beginning, so it's understandable! :) Still, I never rewatch it. I don't even own the dvds...

Episode: mmm...there were several, but I'll go with Listening To Fear. So boring! :yawn:

Character: Adam. So embarassingly lame...everytime he was on my screem, I was afraid that someone would enter in the room, and mock me for what I was watching...:lol:

[little albatross]

Season: well, throw my name into the hat. season 1. I actually really enjoyed quite a few episodes, but overall, there's no way I enjoyed it more than any other season.

Episode: Doublemeat Palace. Disgusting. Makes me want to vomit. I find burgers extremely gross (I know, I know, it wasn't people, it was vegetables), but still...Most fast food in general just disgusts me, beyond gross-out horror or humor. The MotW didn't help at all. I've only actually sat through that episode maybe once or twice, because I can't stand it that much.

Character: Eek...um, Angel. On BtVS, at least. I found him incredibly boring and depressing to the point where I didn't even want to watch. One of the few times I found him interesting was when he was Angelus in season 2, and then I just found him really annoyingly ****y. I did really like him on his own show though, but this is a Buffy survey, right?

[Storm_Warning]

Season: 4. Mainly due to Riley. The only reason I really liked it is 'cause of Maggie. She was a great character. I love characters like her.

Episode: Zeppo. Hate Xander based episodes. Mainly, I just hate Xander.

Character: Xander. So bloody annoying. What he does to Anya is horrid, and he turns his back on Buffy like a trigger happy man in the army kills people. If I were Buffy (or anyone who had to suffer prolonged contact with him), I would have killed him. Also, all attempts to make him useful sucked, like the army thing. I hated that. And he was rarely funny.

[Chosen1]

Season: 1 (Good, but not as good as the rest)

Episode: Restless (I just didn't like it)

Character: Jenny (She was nice, but she just never really grew on me)

[vampmogs]

Character: Riley
I'm starting to think it was designed to be disliked like a preparation between Bangel and Spuffy, when there's something stupid or boring or annoying to do, he's always the first..."Oh I'm jealous of Dracula, oh I'm jealous of Angel, oh I'm jealous of Spike" he's got a heart disease but doesn't want to be cured, always got some paranoia crisis, go to get his blood drunk by a vampire...And I don't don't remember what...I don't think there's one great Riley moment unlike all the other regular characters of BtVS...Well yes, in As you Were he finally was...what the word...oh yes personnality....

Well in all fairness Spike admits jealousy for Riley and is obviously jealous of Angel and Angel was obviously jealous of Riley and Spike. Basically all her boyfriends are just jealous of eachother :roll:

Season: Like everyone else, it has to be season one. I don't really understand how people can hate season seven more than this, sure it had its plot holes but in comparison to season one it's gold. Season one was lame, cheesy had crappy monsters with crappy storylines and the characters weren't even beginning to develop. Prophecy Girl is a fave though.

Episode: Has to be I Robot You Jane. Such a god damn awful episode and I just hate it, it was useless. It was either this or Tabula Rasa I just don't get the love for that episode.

Character: Warren- hated the guy with a passion. Couldn't stand anything about him, his mannerisms, his behaviour and that idea he had in his head that he was some big bad. He was just pathetic and disgusting and his voice really grated on me.

[Kirsten]

Season: Like most, I'd have to say season one. For pretty much all the reasons already stated. But I still do like it and I have to admit that I kinda enjoyed the childish-ness of it sometimes.

Episode: Hmmm... I've never really had a particular least favourite episode, I guess if I had to chose I'd say I Robot, You Jane. The computer demon thingy was pretty lame and I wasn't a fan of Willow in the episode (and she's my favourite character).

Character: Riley *yawns* I just find him pretty boring and annoying. He was always just there and I didn't find him interesting at all. He wasn't that bad just before he left, but that doesn't make up for the rest of his time on the show.

[Pandora's_Box]

I was afraid that someone would enter in the room, and mock me for what I was watching...
Hilarious...I am so getting your point when I watch "I Robot...You Jane" during the so lame computer spell and the snake demon in "Shadow" I always watch beyond my shoulder to be sure nothing is seeing me...

[vampcruella]

IMHO, in all fairness we should all remember that the budget in the first year of Buffy was very low, which accounts for tinny monsters of the week, etc. BTVS didn't hit its stride until season 2. But even in season 1 we can see that the series was never afraid to address common issues of high school life in metaphorical form-----such as peer pressure (The Pack) , parents who live through their children (The Witch), adults who sexually prey on teenagers , or even ancient evils which lure young people with promises of love. The latter, of course, is I, Robot, and this episode prefigures Buffy's later love for an ancient and evil demon.

[spike4buffy]

Character: Eek...um, Angel. On BtVS, at least. I found him incredibly boring and depressing to the point where I didn't even want to watch. One of the few times I found him interesting was when he was Angelus in season 2, and then I just found him really annoyingly ****y. I did really like him on his own show though, but this is a Buffy survey, right?

I totally agree with this this is why i hated Angel on Buffy but LOVEd him in his own show... plus im completely Spuffy lol

Season:probably .... 3 although it was a FANTASTIC season out of them all its probably the one i liked the least along with season 1

Episode: i cant really watch any Bangel-centric episodes but i do avoid the season 1 episode Angel

[Jenni Lou]

IMHO, in all fairness we should all remember that the budget in the first year of Buffy was very low, which accounts for tinny monsters of the week, etc. BTVS didn't hit its stride until season 2. But even in season 1 we can see that the series was never afraid to address common issues of high school life in metaphorical form-----such as peer pressure (The Pack) , parents who live through their children (The Witch), adults who sexually prey on teenagers , or even ancient evils which lure young people with promises of love. The latter, of course, is I, Robot, and this episode prefigures Buffy's later love for an ancient and evil demon.

It's nothing against the series as a whole. Typically, out of every series I watch (which is A LOT) it is the first season I usually tend to like least. (There are a few exceptions, of course.) But that's mainly do the fact that we are just discovering the characters and their world and the writers are still trying to figure out who these people are and what shape their series will take. Honestly, for most shows, I usually find the first season to be the weakest.

[ciderdrinker]

Ok I've read all the above answers and wanted to come up with something different but I couldn't really.

Season: 1 it is, of course. I was gonna go for s4 but that season has some outstanding stuff and s1 doesn't really. I do harbour some love for a couple of the episodes in s1 (Angel, Nightmares, Prophecy Girl) but in general it sucked big time. Like VampCruella mentioned it did have limitations to budget, and they were still establishing the verse, so I don't hate it and if I'm doing a buffy marathon I do watch it, mainly because it's the start and you have to "start at the very beginning, a very good place to start"

Episode: Hmm this was much harder because there's usually something that I like in every episode that redeems it, but because at this very moment I can't remember the one in it I'm going with "Teacher's Pet"

Character: I gonna go with Adam. He was the most boring Big Bad in the series IMO. Didn't really do an awful lot to the scoobies to make them so frightened of him, and basically just preached to other demons and got them to do his work for him. I always wished that the Faith storyline could've gone on longer and with her becoming the Big Bad instead. That would've been a much stronger emotional punch for the Scoobies and especially Buffy, but I guess they did that in S6 with Willow.

[Veverka]

Season I wanna say something other than season one... oh, I got one: seven! Except, really, one was worse, the potentials don't suck as much as
-Crappy Vamps
-I Robot/You Jane
-Little in the way of an arc
-Minimal Bangel and no Spike and
-Giles' bad hair.

Episode At the moment I'm all hatey about The Puppet Show. Rewatched Doublemeat Palace the other day, which I'm normally all hatey about and decided it was not too bad, there were some redeeming features, like Willow's kick ass 'If you're my friend... if you're not my friend...' line.

Character Lame... I'm gonna go with Riley here!!! We've covered why!

[redrevo]

Season: 1. Or possibly 2, which is only redeemed by Angelus. Bad filler episodes, all I need to say here.

Episode: I Robot, You Jane! To even insinuate that a 16-year-old computer whiz (ever a whiz there was!) would randomly give out personal info over the Internet just seems unrealistic - one would assume Willow knew better than that after being around computers all her life and probably being lectured more than once. Therefore, bad bad writing of Willow. Plus, the demon was stupid. That entire episode was crappy, except for Giles being stuffy and getting made fun of - we needed to see more of that.

Character: On Buffy? Angel, Jenny, or (gasp) perhaps, but with long odds against them, even Spike or Giles. Jenny comes first for only being a foil to Giles' stuffiness, and not actually doing anything for half a season. Even the "gypsy curse" thing failed to develop her character because her father did all the information-giving. Angel had two characteristics: The brooding, and the cheesy relationship with Buffy. This puts him a tad above Jenny, and Angelus keeps him a safe distance away from the "most boring" spot - unless of course we're counting them as two different entities, in which case it might even be a tie between Angel and Jenny. Spike, well, he got way too much screen time in s6-7 which, as vampmogs has said before, pretty much ruined his character. The redemption story turned cheesy when there were awkward or sickly-sweet Buffy/Spike scenes in every episode. I don't buy the "vamp loves his mother" story, either. Spike went downhill in my eyes after After Life when he stopped being a side character and a reluctant friend to Buffy. Giles was supposed to be stuffy but I didn't enjoy his backstory (Ripper) and thought he was sometimes in the way of Buffy, Xander and Willow.

[Cori]

Season: 1 for all the obvious reasons and mostly because it had way too many stand-alones for my liking.

Episode: Hmmm there are quite a few (Ted, I Robot You Jane, The Puppet Show, Living Conditions etc.). I think I'll go with The Puppet Show, I really hate talking puppets and that whole episode creeps me out in a very bad way.

Character: Either Dawn or Riley. I found both extra annoying and extremely whiny but I think there are still a few moments/scenes even episodes where Dawn was sorta okay while I can't think of any moments/scenes/episodes that Riley did not annoy me. ;)

[amy1234]

SeasonOne Reasons everyones given lol
EpisodeSuperstarI saw that episode has totaly pointless i haven't actually sat through and watched it all, i just got so bored during it:yawn:
CharactersI liked them all but Dawn really did annoy me, like someone said how whiney she was, why couldn't she go get her own life instead of invading Buffys all the time!:mad:

[like.clover]

Worst Season - SEVEN!!! Words can't describe it!!! The Potentials, Bringers, and even the Scoobies themselves!!! I was just not interested in it at all. It had a collection of really bad episodes, and had one of the biggest and annoying flaws (No Buffy, I'm sorry but your death WILL NOT activate a new Slayer) -- only Faith's death would!

Episode - Sleeper - The only reason I watched it was because I was watching the episodes in order and sort of felt obligated to! I didn't think it would be so bad!

Worst Character - Kennedy - WAY to pushy and annoying, acting like she was in charge ALL THE TIME!!

[Jenni Lou]

Worst Season - and had one of the biggest and annoying flaws (No Buffy, I'm sorry but your death WILL NOT activate a new Slayer) -- only Faith's death would!


Maybe I just haven't watch it recently enough to remember correctly, but when was a new slayer activated in S7 (besides Chosen)? :s There were only the Potentials, right?

[Lady Manson]

Can I just say that if you ever watched Anne Rice's 'Dracula' then you would find this episode HYSTERICAL...it's a total parody...:xd


Sorry, had to put my plug in for the BvsD love...:p


I have to say I am completely with you on this, but do you mean Bram Stoker's Dracula? If not, I have never seen Anne Rice's version. I know this is insanely close to Bram Stoker's novel and the movie released in the 90's. I love the Xander/Renfield paradoy! The eating of the bugs!

[Pandora's_Box]

Maybe I just haven't watch it recently enough to remember correctly, but when was a new slayer activated in S7 (besides Chosen)? There were only the Potentials, right?

No I think in one of her speech Buffy says that her death will activate the new slayer...But that really isn't an issue cause there's mistakes like that in every season of the show...

[Jenni Lou]

No I think in one of her speech Buffy says that her death will activate the new slayer...But that really isn't an issue cause there's mistakes like that in every season of the show...

Yeah, I thought so. Thanks for the reply. It's just an oversight and every season of every series will have them. It's an avoidable. Fans tend to remember more about canon than the writers do. :p Fans just love th analyze every tiny detail. Not that's there's anything wrong with that, of course. ;)

[Cordelia_Chase]

hhhum....ok...

Worst season: Im sorry but for me its got to be season 4. I just really didnt like any of it...Adam....the whole Inicative...Riley...i mean it did have some good moments, and some very good stand out eps such as Hush. But over all i didnt like it.

Worst Ep: I know its not seaon 4 by my worst ep ever was Doublemeat Palace. (ugh just hated it..what was the point of that ep?)

Worst character: Kennedy and Dawn.

[Vyse]

Ok, here are mine:

Season: 1 - Like others have said, it does show that the BtVS needed time to express its full potential as a great series. Season 1's plot in m eyes is weaker and there are too many filler eps. Despite this, I like a lot the eps "Angel" and "Prophecy Girl". If we don't want to compare S1 to the others, I'd say S7 is the one I like least. I didn't like The First as a bad guy. Though there are great eps in this one too and I definitely liked Spuffy here ;)

Episode: I'll go with "Where the Wild Things Are". I just really didn't like it, not even the Buffy/Riley parts of it (despite I'm Ruffy). Actually, it's probably exactly because of the ruffy bits. I just found them... gross.

Character: I'll go with The First. Never liked it as a big bad, not in S3 and neither in S7.


I think there are still a few moments/scenes even episodes where Dawn was sorta okay while I can't think of any moments/scenes/episodes that Riley did not annoy me. ;)

Not even when he saves Oz and admits that Buffy was right about him being a bigot, hon ? :D :p :o

[Risa]

Worst season: Season 4. Can't stand the Initiative or Adam. I was glad to see Maggie Walsh die as well.

Worst Episode: Doublemeat Palace. I normally skip over that one when I have a Buffy marathon.

Worst Character:Um...its kinda tied between Riley and Dawn. Riley annoys me with his whining and good, country boy crap. Dawn annoyed me cause she didn't belong. She just popped out of nowhere and changed everything, that isn't right at all. Most days I wish Willow had just turned her into a little ball of sunshine or something.

[Maria]

Season : 7

It's not the worst but it's the least I like. I prefer lame S1 to this because at least I was entertained in S1 and I laughed a lot probably also because of the quality of some of the episodes. But I was entertained and I prefer that to being miserable which I was watching most of S7. There are episodes I liked in S7 but the Potentials were everywhere and I was hoping to see more of Willow, Giles and Xander. Watching the Potentials disrespect and being mean to Buffy gave me a toothache. I dislike watching Mean whining Girls for too many episodes unless Lindsay Lohan is in them.:D

Episode : Some Assembly Required

I just don't like the idea of a Frankenstein creature. And I don't like to see it. It's too messy and too sad.

Character : Dawn

What Nikki said :) And also she has shown no sense of gratitude to any of these people who cared for her. When she slapped Willow in Wrecked my brain froze, I think, because I was so shocked. I guess to me you don't slap a person who took care of you and stood by you when you needed it most. Willow always took her side when Buffy was annoyed with her. Willow was like a mother to her? Would you slap your mother's face if she was "sick " like how Willow was sick at that time ?

[vampmogs]

Character : Dawn
What Nikki said :) And also she has shown no sense of gratitude to any of these people who cared for her. When she slapped Willow in Wrecked my brain froze, I think, because I was so shocked. I guess to me you don't slap a person who took care of you and stood by you when you needed it most. Willow always took her side when Buffy was annoyed with her. Willow was like a mother to her? Would you slap your mother's face if she was "sick " like how Willow was sick at that time ?

I was actually thinking about Dawn the other day and in some respects I just don't think she is truly a kind person. I think it becomes much more than simply being a brat, some of the things she has said or done have been very questionable.

Aside from the obvious things like stealing items from the Magic Box from someone who looked after and took care of her, the joy Dawn gets out of swiping an old man's wallet from his house is disgusting. Dawn didn't know her crush was a vampire, but she heard a crash from within the kitchen and then he came running out with the old man's wallet, one could assume that Dawn must have believed her crush physically abused the old man to swipe his wallet. Rather than doing the right thing and giving the wallet back, Dawn squees with delight and runs from his house and then has the nerve to take some of the old man's money. I don't see how Dawn can be a great person when she steals money from old people with joy, it is disgusting; is this who Buffy gave up her life for?

[Sebina]

Worst season: For me it was a tie between season 4 and season 1, but I have to go with season 1, that season didn't have that many good episodes.

Worst Episode: I Robot, You Jane, that episode is really boring and I usually skip it when I watch season 1 boxset.

Worst Character: Dawn, that character was so demanding, always wanting attention and everyone is supposed to drop what they are doing wo spend time with her, like in the episode Older and Far Away.

[NileQT87]

worst season: season 4 - btvs went massively downhill when angel left. riley, the initiative, maggie walsh, adam... oy. i happen to love season 1 way more than seasons 4 and 7. it has episodes i find myself watching all the time like wtth, th, nkabotfd, angel, nightmares, and pg. spike in the bathtub drinking from giles' mug, harmony, anya, oz half-morphed in the bathtub, singing giles and angel's "billowy coat, king of pain" ass-kicking of riley were the biggest redeeming factors of season 4.

worst episode: BEER BAD! i can't believe nobody has mentioned it. or maybe everybody has just blocked it out for having existed. it was the one episode that mutant enemy even felt the need to apologize for in the season 4 packaging. lol. sorry, just no redeeming factors. speaking of which, parker is another season 4 turd. the body is another episode i hate (i robot, you jane has more redeeming factors, imo). the zeppo, teacher's pet and the pack aren't favorites either--i'm not a fan of xander. teacher's pet has a redeeming factor of minuscule angel's jacket bookends. and buffy vs. dracula... wow, that's almost as bad as beer bad. dracula was so lame, and i even like lameness at times, but it was just stupid beyond belief. it narrowly escapes worst episode because of giles with drac's babes and anya and spike's history tales.

worst character: riley... tied possibly with adam. and kennedy.

[Curiouswolf]

Worse season: Season 7 started out with so much potential (excuse the pun) but they blew each storytelling opportunity. I was relieved when the show ended and I wasn't the only one.

Worse episode: "Teacher's Pet" was so blah that it made season 7 almost watchable in comparison. Thank God, it was just one episode.

Worse character: The First Evil was so boring and pointless, just a mere ghost.