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sherrilina
02-12-07, 02:48 AM
I guess Potential, since I haven't read The Chain--though IMO comic epps shouldn't be included here b/c comics and television episodes are like apples and oranges!

But Potential had some nice moments--I love Amanda and Spike and Buffy taking the potentials around, and Xander's speech at the end was sweet, though I don't like the epp too much as a whole.

Some Assembly Required vs. Dead Man's Party (resurrected dead guys in the second epp!)

Pandora's_Box
02-12-07, 03:09 AM
(resurrected dead guys in the second epp!)
Oh yeah, really smart. There is even Bargaining Part II in which Buffy's brought back. :p

I'd defenitely say Dead Man's Party because I don't hate an episode because I hate what people can do in it. If you want more ideas on that go check the "Champion Awards" forum, there's a big talk about it.
I'm glad that after the huge deals at the end of season 2 things don't get clean in just one episode. Well it happens in two but still. So I love the mess in that episode, the only thing is the "demon of the week" plot which is awful, mostly with Pat appearance.
SAR is a bad episode, bad plot, bad scenes, except the one who...what's this face the Football guy (I stole that line to Anya in Two To Go:)) go join the dead corpse in the flames, really shows the pathetism of the guy.
Dead Man's Party for me.

What's My Line Part I vs Faith Hope and Trick (guess what? There's a new slayer in town.)

Nostalgia
02-12-07, 03:58 AM
This is hard.. I really like both episodes.. but the second half of What's My Line was better.. so I'm going with Faith, Hope and Trick. Faith, Hope, and Trick was just a smart and sexy episode.. and introduction episodes for characters (especially Faith) are always amazing. We get to see Faith's interaction with others (who doesn't LOVE Xander's reaction to her nakedness!).. and we also get to hear more about her background and her enemies (Kissing Toast). Very good episode.. but What's My Line is a great episode as well.. just the first half of it isn't as strong.

and sorry sherrillina.. but season 8 is canon.. therefore it is on par with the continuation thus, it can be used in this game. I can't wait until No Future For You finishes.. I'm gonna pit it against a good episode too!

As for now:


Amends vs Who Are You?

Weredog
02-12-07, 05:23 AM
Amends.

The only episode save "Conversations with Dead People" where The First was actually threatening. This episode -- which pretty much wins automatically cause it's Christmas-themed -- resolved so many season 2 and season 3 issues. It cleared the Buffy/Faith and Giles/Angel beef, reunited Willow and Oz, and really dealt with Buffy and Angel's relationship post-sword-through-chest. The interaction between The First and Angel really worked. When Jenny appears behind Giles and he looks over his shoulder past her, it always gives me chill. Oh, and do I have to go on about the ending? Definite Buffy classic moment.
PS. Is it just me or is this episode a little underrated?

IMO comic epps shouldn't be included here b/c comics and television episodes are like apples and oranges!
I would say comics and television episodes are more like red and green apples -- they're very much the same, just look different. ;)

The Prom VS. Wild at Heart

selenspuffy
05-12-07, 08:52 PM
The Prom. Both cool eps, but Prom is very special for me..should I explain why? It's the prom:) All that Buffy&Angel stuff, Buffy saving the night, Wild Horses:) Our other cute couples (eg. Willoz!!), Jonathan and the girl he came with:D So funny!

Grave Vs. Beneath You

alejofm05
06-12-07, 04:11 PM
Beneath You

I love this episode, to the tension when Spike comes to the house, to the phenomenal final scene. Grave is my least favorite season finale and for me the weakest of the final three episodes of the season (Villains, Two to Go, Grave). I'm just more interested in what is going on in Beneath You than in Grave.


Superstar vs Stroryteller

Nina
06-12-07, 04:38 PM
Superstar,

Both the episodes were not that great, but I love Jonathan and Andrew was already overused when Storyteller aired. Altough I love the scene in which the trio are gods.

Superstar had a lot of Jonathan, which is a plus. I think Danny Strong is a good actor and I loved the question what was happened between that episode and the episode before Superstar. And ofcourse the special intro was fun.


Amends vs Lessons

selenspuffy
06-12-07, 09:23 PM
Amends. Both very interesting and lovely eps. Actually I love Lessons, I mean it's kind of a strange one, but all that stuff about Spike, Buffy realizing it..great!!
Still, Amends is a great ep, hey Christmas time!:) I'm in that kind of mood!! Also the scenes about Angel's past, etc. love it!

Intervention Vs. Doomed

KingofCretins
06-12-07, 10:06 PM
"Intervention"

I love Buffy's whole trip to the guide, especially her very dry "hokey pokey" joke with Giles. Obviously, the Buffybot thing was very funny in many ways. And, it was a very good character moment for both Spike and Buffy when she shows her gratitude for his willingness to protect Dawn.

"Doomed" had some neat stuff... watching it at the moment, actually. But, I really don't care for the goofs in the episode and the plot flaws with the whole Buffy jumps into the Hellmouth thing.

"Dopplegangland" vs. "Primeval" -- terrific group hugs!

Nostalgia
07-12-07, 01:30 AM
Doppelgangland.. just an all around amazing episode. I love seeing the Scoobies having fun for one of the first times in that season (I've always felt season 3 was the darkest season next to season 6.. even if it's not dark.) I laughed my ass off so many times.. and so many great memories that it's hard to not rewatch the episode. I love vamp willow of course, and Alyson does such an amazing job at acting as a bad girl (we see it even more evident when Willow actually do go evil). Primeval is a great episode.. but to me it was great for its special effects.. and all around was a showoff of special effects.. though there are great Scoobie moments as well (the spell.. and of course the hug :hug: ).. both very good episodes.. but Primeval doesn't reach the capacity of enjoyment for as Doppelgangland did... and the weeping over Willow scene is still one of the funniest scenes of television history.

No Future For You vs This Year's Girl

Weredog
08-12-07, 11:55 PM
No Future for You

My issue with "This Year's Girl" is that Douglas Petrie tried to have us follow the Scoobies investigation of Adam. It felt very awkward. I remember when this episode first aired, I was at the edge of my couch waiting for Faith to wake up. Instead, we had Buffy say "I miss Riley. Let's rescue Riley" and Giles replying "But Adam. Let's talk about Adam. Petrie should've known that anybody who was watching the episode just wanted to see Faith wake up! Save the Adam filling for another episode!

No Future for You, on the other hand, was amazing!
Gigi was a great villain. Unlike Warren and Amy from "The Long Way Home," I sympathized with Gigi. Interestingly enough, just exactly as I did with Faith in season 3. They dynamic between the two was amazing. I believe Faith did right not killing Gigi, even if she had planned to kill Buffy.
It was great to see Faith grow up -- not only from season 4, but from season 7!
5 stars! I loved this arc!

Welcome to the Hellmouth VS The Long Way Home

KingofCretins
09-12-07, 04:08 AM
"The Long Way Home"

Has a difficult task of introducing us to a whole new setting, whole new tone, and survive the first volley of questions about what's happened in a year and a half or more since "Chosen", and I think it did a great job. Each character gets some iconic stuff that reminds us who they are, plus some nice scooby moments.

"Welcome to the Hellmouth" is obviously revolutionary television, but it doesn't hold up to everything later. Plus, I agree with others who have pointed out that Luke's speech is a bit lame, with all the prophetic stuff followed by "hell comes to town".

"Teacher's Pet" vs. "Him" -- inappropriate extracurricular activity

BlasterBoy
09-12-07, 04:11 AM
Do I even have to say it?

Him, obviously! Teacher's Pet is one of my worst Buffy episode ever, if not the worst! It's so bad!

Him, on the other hand, is a good, solid episode with some huge laughs. Spike tackling RocketLauncher!Buffy is hilarious! And Willow trying to turn RJ into a girl is also hysterical. But, I also loved Dawn's part in all of this, and it was a big part of making me love her.

Dirty Girls vs. Enemies (fabulous Faith episodes)

KingofCretins
09-12-07, 04:16 AM
"Dirty Girls"

Just barely. "Dirty Girls" is really the only bright spot in Season 7 between "Potential" and "Chosen" from a plot and character continuity standpoint. And it was pretty intense and scary. Always love Faith, and she brought with her all kinds of cool scenes with different characters. I even liked the Spike/Faith ad hoc Let's Pitch the Spinoff Now scene. Plus, Nathan Fillion knows how to bring the big scary badness.

"... what else you got?" and that little smile. Awesome villain stuff.

"Enemies" was cool, and I love debating how far 'under' Angel had to go on that mission, but there were some holes in the plot that make it a good episode, but not as good as "Dirty Girls".

"Fear, Itself" vs. "Conversations with Dead People" -- evil magic gaslighting the Scoobies.

Weredog
09-12-07, 04:24 AM
I love the Angelus tease. The twist was a great slap in Faith's face. My only problem with the episode is: what are the odds that the Mayor would summon the Shaman guy that had a prior deal with Giles? What would've been more believable would have been The Shaman propose the curse to the Mayor as opposed to the other way around. That way in the end, we would have gone "Oh, so the Shaman guy went to the Mayor to trick him all this time!"

"Dirty Girls" was great. It was nice to see Faith turn good since her last appearance in season 4. It's interesting that she had went to jail and bailed out because of a bringer, it really brought the peril of the Slayer line even more forward. Faith herself was great in this, as opposed to "Empty Places" where I felt that her character wasn't given the right dialogue. "Dirty Girls" on the other hand gave Dushku the lines she knew to deliver. Faith aside, "Dirty Girls" was also great because it introduced Caleb. In my opinion, I think he was the most malicious villain of them of the whole series. Here came this human guy that killed innocent girls for what? To be The First's sidekick and take over the world? That's what I call a villain (as opposed to The Master, The Mayor, Adam who just wanna be the Big Bad Demon of the Universe.)

"Fear, Itself" vs. "Conversations with Dead People" -- evil magic gaslighting the Scoobies.

I would have to go with "Conversations with Dead People." Although this episode had significant plot holes to the season arc (ie. What did Joyce/The First foresee about Buffy? Andrew's storyline was pointless if Jonathan's blood was insufficient. Why Cassie of all people? Willow saw a picture of her so the First scared her with that?) Yet despite so, its structure was amazing. The only upside of the episode was Joss' dialogue between Buffy and Webster. I believe this episode was a character development for Buffy (and she alone.) We finally had Buffy confirm her 'inferior complex about her superior complex' which was something she dealt with throughout the entire series! Honestly, this episode had some of Joss' best dialogue, such as "Oh my god." / "Oh your god what?" / "Well, not my god cause I defy his work. Is there any word on that?" / "Nothing solid." (paraphrase.)
STELLAR!


The Dark Age VS. The Killer in Me (what's up with Giles?)

holypotatoes
09-12-07, 05:13 AM
I think I'll go with The Killer in Me. It's amazing because I can't stand the lot of S7 but in this case I'm going with it. I really only like the part with Buffy and Spike. When Buffy's talking to the "flower shop" and keeps asking for Riley and they keep telling her there is no Riley there. :lol: Only to conclude that, yes, it was a government conspiracy. "We're here to help, Assface, here!" AND Giles as the 1st was really cheesy but Giles' line "So you think I'm evil because I take a bunch of girls on a camping trip and don't touch them?" :rotflmao:

Graduation Day part 2 vs. Grave

Nostalgia
09-12-07, 05:20 AM
Wow.. must be paying attention to the games section.. very tough decision. I love both episodes.. and there are moments in both that I would never want to forget. However, I'm going with Graduation Day (Part II). Everything about this episode I love dearly, from Xander's dry humor at the beginning, to the school working together as a team, to the giant snake demon.. While the episode is best watched as a whole, I think the second half is just as strong as the first in terms of quality, and specifically the episode sheds so much about our characters. I've always been a sucker for the school days, and this episode is very special to me because it was a send off to in my opinion the best scooby gang of the series.. I loved the comedy, drama, and action of the entire episode. Don't get me wrong here.. it's like comparing AMAZING episode to VERY VERY GOOD episode.. but as good as Grave is.. it just never got to top 20 status for me.

Gingerbread vs Goodbye Iowa

holypotatoes
09-12-07, 05:34 AM
Wow.. must be paying attention to the games section.. very tough decision.

:lol: Yes I have. I couldn't believe how fast the F's went!!! And I'm extremely surprised how many people prefer Grave over Grad day 2!!!! How did that happen? All I ever hear is people complaining about it. But nevermind that, onto your challenge. :p

I'm going with Gingerbread on this one. It's one of the lamer MoTW eps but that's okay. I find great amusement in watching the ropes tied around Buffy move over her arms then under than over. It's great fun watching goofs. Plus you have to love "Did I get it? Did I get it?" The way SMG says it makes me laugh every time. Oh and I almost forgot, MOO!!!! :roll: I never cared too much for Goodbye Iowa. It was kind of a pointless episode and not one I like very much.

Enemies vs. Earshot (I was debating on putting Entropy but nevermind that. :lol:)

Nostalgia
09-12-07, 06:02 AM
Yes I have. I couldn't believe how fast the F's went!!! And I'm extremely surprised how many people prefer Grave over Grad day 2!!!! How did that happen? All I ever hear is people complaining about it. But nevermind that, onto your challenge.

? I don't think there's too many people that didn't like Grave. It's a very compelling episode, and many people loved the evil Willow arc.

Weredog
09-12-07, 09:52 PM
Earshot.

I thought this was the funniest "Buffy" episode ever. The humour was very smart and very well executed from the cast. What's more astonishing is that in the midst of its humour, the episode also dealt with a very serious issue. It's a definite talent if a writer can situate comedy in a topic such as a school massacre without belittling either. In terms of structure, this episode can be compared to the Italian movie "Life is Beautiful" where even though we, the audience, laugh at the antics of our characters, the impending doom of the situations still lingers.
Needless to say, Jane Espenson's best work!

Faith, Hope, and Trick VS Buffy vs. Dracula (episode titles with characters' names)

holypotatoes
09-12-07, 10:00 PM
Buffy vs. Dracula. I actually really like this episode. I know it's cheesy but I frankly like the cheese. :lol: I thought it was interesting that Buffy wouldn't tell the group that Dracula bit her until she was caught red handed. I loved Xander ending everything with bator. "don't talk about the dark master..... bator. :err:" :roll: Nick was very funny in this ep. After Buffy drinks Dracula's blood, "that was gross" made me laugh as well. I never got the whole Dracula always coming back mostly because I never paid too much attention to anything Dracula so that reference kind of flew over my head.

Beer Bad vs. Ted (2 very cheesy episodes)

Matt
09-12-07, 10:06 PM
I'd have to say Beer Bad over Ted which may be somewhat surprising, but in all honesty I think that although Beer Bad gets off to a slightly slow start, when the story is running it adds the right amount of comic relief with the mixture of drama that is necessary, ie the scene where Giles and Xander discover CaveBuffy in contrast to the scene where Willow and Parker are talking, wherein Ted deals with a story that is incredibly more serious and provides hardly any substantial comedy moments, for example when Buffy discovers Ted has been going through her things, when she believes he's dead or when Xander, Cordelia and Willow discover the closet of dead bodies in his home. So, it has to be Beer Bad, however bad the episode is believed to be.

The Body or Hush (Two very powerful episodes for different reasons.)

holypotatoes
09-12-07, 10:56 PM
This one was fairly easy for me. The Body. It was a ton more powerful than Hush ever was. Yes in Hush no one was able to talk and the gentlmen were scary/creepy but The Body was just horribly sad and creepy as well. Everytime they would do those hard cuts to Joyce's dead body was just plain rude and creepy! Plus nothing can beat Anya's speech about how she doesn't understand. Uh :cutecry: pulls at my heartstrings every, single, time.

The Gift vs. Prophecy Girl (Buffy dies :( )

Nostalgia
09-12-07, 11:05 PM
Prophecy Girl is an amazing episode, but we're talking top 5 Buffy episodes with "The Gift." I absolutely love how everything seems to be working (between Xander's bulldozer to Buffybot trick).. and Joss hits us hard with the final 15 minutes. I love Buffy's speech, and till' this day still cry every time I see everyone's reactions to her body. Especially Xander.. :cutecry:

I love the smart comedy of the episode, the action, the drama, everything gets a significant enter into the episode.. and they all combine to make one of the best moments of all time television.

I also love the Spike/Buffy speech, and how she lets him into the house. I think this is such a great scene for their relationship, and made me respect Spike more and more. I never realized how dedicated her was to Buffy after his last few episodes in season 5.

I think Xander is such an important role in this episode.. and he shows it in the smallest ways. His crashing surprise is still a fantastic point for his character, because it blends his blue-collar job and his heart together, and shows that he really can make a significance to their team.

Prophecy Girl is definetly top 20 material, I love the Buffy/Xander interaction, and I also love Sarah's acting (the crying scene kills me.. yet I also love her powerful strength to overcome it and face her death.. a 17 year going into a fight knowing she's going to die? Wow.. Buffy truly was a brave hero.)

Villains vs Chosen (Buffy almost dies.)

BlasterBoy
09-12-07, 11:25 PM
Villains, easy. Chosen is just horrible :lol:

Villains is a great episode, but probably the worst of the Dark!Willow arc. I love Willow killing Warren in that creepy and sadistic manner. Plus, Willow walking right in front of the bus is awesome. Dawn finding Tara's body is truly disturbing and sad, but in all honesty, the episode dragged out a little and more could've happened. Overall, a great episode, just not amazing.

What's My Line Part 2 vs. Consequences (second part of smaller two-parters)

holypotatoes
09-12-07, 11:39 PM
Yeah I haven't watched either episode in forever, mostly because I didn't like either episode but I'll go with Consequences. I was intrigued by the fact that Faith would turn on Buffy as fast as she did. I mean blaming someone else for a murder that you committed, well maybe not murder cause it wasn't on purpose but you know what I mean, is just absolutely astonishing. I felt horrible for Buffy when Giles wouldn't listen to her but then it was all an act so I started to feel better about the whole situation. :p

Stealing Nos' Villains and pairing it with....

Villains vs. Two to Go (Which Dark Willow ep do you prefer?)

Pandora's_Box
10-12-07, 12:33 AM
Well, what I like in Villains is actually the first part where she's not Dark Willow already (I know it's only two scenes), after that I don't enjoy pre-Rack Dark Willow as much as I enjoy post-Rack Dark Willow, she's just so more vicious and even if the prison part is kinda boring, I love every scene at the Magic Box and Buffy/Willow fight is just great.
Oh, Buffy! You really need to have every square inch of your ass to be kicked.
Love it!
Two To Go for me.

The Prom vs Conversations With Dead People

Weredog
10-12-07, 01:12 AM
The Prom.

One of my favourite episodes of all time. It's probably my favourite of Marti Noxon's works. You don't have to be an obsessive Buffy/Angel fan to have your heart pierced -- not when Angel dumps Buffy -- but when Buffy cries on Willow's lap. To this day, I don't know if Angel was right to leave her or not. Anyhow, following the seemingly depressing episode, the scene at the Prom makes anyone who's in love with the Buffy character dance. I don't know what could've been a better way to conclude Buffy's high school experience than her umbrella award. This episode was very, very, very bittersweet. The final moment where Angel and Buffy dance gives me mix emotions. I don't know if that scene can be considered a happy ending or a unhappy ending. Much like their relationship had always been.

Fool for Love VS Selfless (character centric to the max)

holypotatoes
10-12-07, 01:20 AM
I think I'll go with Selfless. Mostly because we never got to see a ton of Anya so this episode was great. FFL is extremely overrated imo. The only part of that entire episode that I like is "You're beneath me." :lol: It is the biggest burn ever! I like Selfless in a way that we get to see what Anya's feeling and what she's actually like at this time. We think she just turned evil again but really she was still hurting because of the breakup with Xander. It's pretty sad actually.

Listening to Fear vs. Fear Itself (the two episodes that I always get their names mixed up :lol: )

selenspuffy
10-12-07, 02:42 PM
Listening To Fear. I love the dark atmosphere of season5 there, Fear, itself is a nice and funny one, though..really funny ending:D, I was like "huh?" when I watched it for the first time.

Dark Age Vs. Never Leave Me (episodes that have nothing in common:D)

holypotatoes
10-12-07, 10:52 PM
Oh Selen do I even have to answer??? Fine I guess I'll go with Never Leave Me. It was basically a scene vs scene for this round. The Dark Age had the "This is not music, music has notes" while Never Leave Me has the scene where Anya beats up Andrew, the whole good cop vs. bad cop routine. That one won out. Anya makes me laugh. Plus we get council action in Never Leave Me which is always interesting. Oh and you get the running joke of no one knowing who Andrew is. :lol: Spike: "Who?" Buffy: "Tucker's brother." Spike: "Oh."
Did Spike even know who Tucker was? :s

The Harsh Light of Day vs. All the Way

selenspuffy
12-12-07, 05:34 PM
All The Way. Season 6 is the best!! According to that, I'd prefer to say All The Way, also I love the episode's climax. Also I love the scene where Willow saw that cute girl as a witch and changed her idea about the people who are disguised as witches:D The part where Xander decided to marry Anya (which afterwards changed unfortunately) "I'm gonna marry that girl." quote:) And lots of other stuff..!

Hush Vs. Buffy Vs. Dracula

Nina
12-12-07, 06:31 PM
Hush,

Hush was a fantastic episode, the story was fun, the gentlemen were scary and the non-talking was a nice idea and very well done. And of course the pictures Giles made, the gentlemen with their handbags. :lol: And all th blood in his pictures.

The Dracula episode was fun, but not that fantastic. Buffy spends a half hour with fangirl behaviour, and poor Xander was the loser ... again.


Passion vs the Body (Character death's)

holypotatoes
12-12-07, 10:39 PM
Definitely The Body! That whole episode was absolutely horrific and sad. I'm not saying Passion wasn't but The Body had a bigger emotional impact IMO. All of the quick cuts to Joyce's body was just creepy which I think accomplished how powerful it was supposed to be. And how could I choose this ep without mentioning my favorite scene: Anya's speech. It was so damn sad. I just wanted to go and give her a hug cause she definitely needed one at that moment.

The Freshman vs. Welcome to the Hellmouth (Buffy starts school)

Nostalgia
12-12-07, 11:07 PM
I'm going with Welcome To The Hellmouth on this one..

I just love the entire aura of the old school episodes sometimes.. and I think between the campiness and the corny costumes, there lies a good show. Many realize that it's such a different show compared to the following seasons, but it's still Buffy. One of the things I love just about the first episode is the dark mood is gives off. I also think just because it's the first episode ever, it gets some credit just for being.. well the first episode. I love the Buffy/Willow/Xander interaction in the episode.. and her first relationship with Giles. All around, it was a testing ground for an episode.. but a proving ground as well.

The Freshman was a good episode keep in mind.. The Xander speech is fantastic.. and I always loved Sunday and her followers. Just doesn't match up to it for me.

Conversations With Dead People vs Older and Far Away

holypotatoes
13-12-07, 01:41 AM
Older and Far Away. I hate watching CWDP it's sooo boring! I like Older and Far Away however. I happen to like all of Buffy's B-day episodes. It was a good concept to lock them into a house, it's kind of the opposite of what Buffy ever did to vampires that ever tried to get in. The best part was probably when Tara said to Spike, "a cramp, in your pants?" :lol: I kind of wished that friend of Xander's became Buffy's new love interest but that never happened. I have a feeling we all think that when some new guy gets on the show and is close with the scoobies.

Hell's Bells vs. Something Blue

basakbangel
13-12-07, 03:52 PM
Honestly, I really didn't like the both epps that much. I've couple of reasons. Something Blue was funny yes but I just don't understand LOVING that episode. The whole "spell, buffy, spike" trio(:D) didnt impress me but fine anyway. Hell's Bell's was overall a good episode and I pitied Xander. Poor Xander.. I watched the epp couple of months ago and I felt just a little pain and nothing more..

But still I'll go with Hell's Bell's.

Puppet Show Vs. Inca Mummy Girl

holypotatoes
13-12-07, 10:51 PM
OMG Puppet Show by a million. The whole of the episode isn't the greatest but the ending was funny and Sid the dummy was just plain creepy. My absolute favorite part is the ending when they're doing Oedipus the King/Rex. :rotflmao: I appreciate it even more now that I've read Oedipus the King. I've never been a fan of Inca Mummy Girl. As a matter of fact, I haven't watched that episode in a long time so maybe I'm a little biased. I'll have to rewatch it to see if I still hate it, I probably still will. ;)

Out of Mind, Out of Sight vs. Angel

Nostalgia
13-12-07, 11:00 PM
Oh, man.. Season 1 only had three very good episodes.. and both of these are in that list. As much as I love Out of Might, Out of Sight, Angel is one of my all time favorite episodes. I love the darkness of the episode.. and how it focuses so much on their beginnings of a relationship. It drastically compares his good side to his bad side, and shows that even with a soul he has temptations that lurk in the back of his mind (even though he would never let it happen.) I also love how it portrays Angel as such a romantic, in that he is desperate for this girl.. I think there are a lot of great scenes in the episode.. especially the "hide boy from Mom" scene.. but overall I think the Darla/Angel fight/conversation is fantastic. I actually liked seeing Darla with a gun, and I thought it was pretty rouge-like at that time for a vampire to do. I also love the overall mood and setting of the episode.. as I recall, there weren't too many scenes in light.. which is perfect considering Angel always is in the shadows... as least brood-Angel.

Two To Go vs The Harvest

holypotatoes
13-12-07, 11:10 PM
Two to Go for sure!!!!! This episode is just great. I love the Buffy/Willow fight not the actual fight itself but their argument with eachother before the fist fight happened. Dark Willows, "Buffy you hate it here as much as I do, I'm just more honest about it." was absolutely fantastic. I :heart: Dark Willow and I wish there was more of her in the season. Especially Dark Willow against Buffy. I like The Harvest but I don't like it as much as Two to Go. :D

Witch vs. I Robot - You Jane

Weredog
13-12-07, 11:18 PM
"Witch" but that wasn't hard because I really like this episode, whereas "I Robot You Jane" is loaded with fromage. "Witch" was great because it explored the Buffy-mythology beyond vampires right at episode 3. And what a demon! Amy's mom is horrible: taking her daughter's life. Literally. Such a great metaphor. I loved how the Amy/Catherine storyline was parallel to Buffy's with her own mother. One thing the show always excels at are scenes with Buffy and Joyce -- always a pleasure.

Band Candy VS. I Was Made to Love You (Joyce looks hot)

holypotatoes
13-12-07, 11:42 PM
Bandcandy. I actually found great amusement with all of the adults acting like "teenagers" and I put teenagers in quotes because I honestly don't think us teenagers actually act like that but whatever. I liked Ripper as a badass. Very funny. One of my favorite quotes comes from this episode by Buffy: "but we're not in the band." as if Snyder even cared. IWMTLY was an alright episode. It wasn't the most entertaining episode I ever saw but it did set up what was about to come very well. The ending is just so horrific! :(

Into the Woods vs. Triangle

Weredog
14-12-07, 01:46 AM
"Into the Woods" was great because Xander told Anya exactly how he felt about her. But more importantly, it was amazing because Riley Finn left! The only downside of his leaving was that this episode then had to feature him a lot.
Which is why I think "Triangle" is better. However, "Triangle" is better than most episodes of "Buffy." It isn't one of my top favourite "Buffy" episodes but it's close to. In true Jane Espenson fashion, it was hilarious. It's a great episode to watch all of our Scoobs interact with just themselves. Has any else noticed how this episode had the Scoobies interact with a member we didn't often do so: Willow/Anya, Spike/Xander and Buffy/Tara? I loved it. Oh, and how can anyone not love Buffy's sarcasm:"Playing soccer"? :D


Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered VS Beer Bad (Alliterative titles)

spuffbeste
14-12-07, 06:38 PM
B.B.B. for sure! I found Beer Bad absurd at all!! B.B.B. is fun to watch! It was kind of funny!

Life Serial vs. The Weight Of the World

holypotatoes
14-12-07, 10:49 PM
Remember not to spam spuffbeste. :D You don't want to get warnings by the moderators.

I think I'll go with The Weight of the World. I think that it was just a better episode in general. It was nice to find out what Buffy was actually feeling throughout the season. My absolute favorite part has to be the "Do you think there's a connnection between Ben and Glory?" :rotflmao: OMG I die of laughter every time I watch it. Giles is just funny when he has no idea what's going on. The part in Life Serial I like was drunk Buffy. When Spike and the other demons were playing kitten poker. Buffy, "What? I'm not getting into a bar fight. I'll beat em up for information, great but not to defend your rights to gamble for kittens. Which btw is stupid currency!" I mean that is just a great scene all together.

As You Were vs. Listening to Fear

KingofCretins
15-12-07, 07:13 AM
"Listening to Fear".

I don't like either episode, but "Listening to Fear" had one of those brilliant, why-does-Sarah-never-get-an-Emmy-nomination moments, when she breaks down while washing the dishes, listening to salsa music to drown out her mother's deranged ranting.

"As You Were" was just... too much in one episode. Too cheesy a way to show Spike is still evil, the Mary Sue Sam Finn. Just not very great stuff.

"Becoming, Part I" vs. "Who Are You?" -- Buffy held at gunpoint.

selenspuffy
15-12-07, 10:37 AM
Becoming Part I. I love the "past" scenes 1800s are great! Who Are You was a good episode, Faith and Buffy..strange but funny:D but I can't compare it with Becomingp.1,it is a really good one!

Inca Mummy Girl Vs. Helpless (Xander, unsuccessful love, life stories..)

holypotatoes
15-12-07, 03:39 PM
Helpless for sure! This episode is so heartbreaking. The fact that Giles was able to completely betray Buffy for his job was just horrible. I mean I get that he didn't want to be fired but Buffy was like his own daughter. And that part with Joyce in the small room surrounded by all the polaroids of her was just plain creepy. Like I've said before I hate Inca Mummy Girl. That episode never impressed me at all.

Revelations vs. Dead Man's Party (the scoobies are complete A-holes to Buffy)

KingofCretins
15-12-07, 03:42 PM
"Revelations".

Awesome phlebotenum and special effects, most snarky guest character *ever*, and a strong, emotional plot around Buffy and the gang. They're approach is better here, since it really is an intervention of sorts.

"Dead Man's Party" is a fine episode, and I don't have many complaints, but "Revelations" had cooler stuff going on.

It's worth noting that the Scoobies were right -- both times :)

"I Robot, You Jane" vs. "I Was Made to Love You" -- robot love!

holypotatoes
15-12-07, 03:50 PM
It's worth noting that the Scoobies were right -- both times :)


False!

I Was Made to Love You. I'm sorry there's just no comparison between the two. IWMTLY was tons better than IRYJ. You have to love that April threw Spike through a window. I mean that was just great. I love Buffy's line after April throws her across the room when they're back at the house, " I don't know about you guys, but I've had it with super-strong little women who aren't me." :lol: Oh and when she does the fake laugh for Ben's stupid joke, kind of like Cordelia did in Reptile Boy. That was pretty funny as well.

When She Was Bad vs. Reptile Boy

spuffbeste
15-12-07, 04:03 PM
Thanks for your warning holypotatoes, I'll be careful!! :D:D

I'll go with Reptile Boy I didn't like When She was Bad, it was weird to see Buffy like that. She was totally a different Buffy as we all know. Reptile Boy was Ok, I will not forget Cordelia's 'great' laughing and the funny looks to her after she laughed:D

Tabula Rasa vs. Something Blue

holypotatoes
15-12-07, 04:56 PM
Thanks for your warning holypotatoes, I'll be careful!! :D:D

No problem, just looking out for my peeps!!! :p

Tabula Rasa! First of all I absolutely adore that Buffy chose Joan to be her name. :lol: Who would think of Joan to name themselves? I like Randy Giles his dialogue is pretty funny as well. Especially when he's like "Randy Giles? Why not just call me horny Giles or deperate for a shag Giles? I knew there was a reason I hated you." Good stuff. Willow's remark about thinking she's kind of gay was also very funny. Don't get me wrong I love Something Blue. When Buffy and Spike are kissing and Buffys like "hmm honey get off." when they were about to talk about Willow's spells. :roll: I just prefer to watch Tabula Rasa more.

School Hard vs. What's My Line Part 2

Weredog
15-12-07, 05:30 PM
"School Hard" is my favourite episode written by David Greenwalt, who should be rightfully praised for creating some of the best bads (Angel, Spike, Dru). The episode was a great one for Buffy as we see her struggle between being the Chosen One and being a Sunnydale High school student. Her scenes with Joyce, just like any scenes they have together, were great. These two actors have the mother/daughter chemistry that TV often mistakes for sister/sister. This episode is also great because it changes gearshifts: for the past 15 episodes, we had vampires presented as religious-fanatical-worshipers. Finally, new villains are introduced in the show to have "a little less ritual, and a little more fun." 5 stars!

The Long Way Home VS. No Future for You

KingofCretins
15-12-07, 05:35 PM
"No Future For You".

Excellent Faith story, and really hits a lot of great emotional notes in the personal morality and overall champion-warrior mythos of the Buffyverse.

"The Long Way Home" has a lot of strong points for the major characters, but it, as most season premieres do, feels like there's almost too much shoved into it at once.

"Something Blue" vs. "Same Time, Same Place".

holypotatoes
15-12-07, 05:48 PM
Oh Something Blue for sure. STSP was an alright episode but not that great. I like how Something Blue was testing the water for the Spuffy relationship. It was intersting that the writers were testing out how powerful Willow was to become as well. I love Giles sooo much in this ep. I really like when he says to Xander after going completely blind, "stop whatever you're doing you smell like fruit roll ups." :rotflmao: And like I said in the previous post Buffy's "hmm honey get off" makes me laugh pretty hard as well. Oh and how could I forget "I'm not the one who wanted Wing Beneath My Wings as our song."

Intervention vs. Innocence (the two head to head eps that are really starting to annoy me)

KingofCretins
15-12-07, 05:55 PM
"Innocence".

Arguably the best episode the series ever produced on television, and Joss' personal #1, we got huge, huge character development for all of the mains, we got a freaky new villain, and we got a rocket launcher. Like Joss said... emotional resonance, and rocket launchers.

"Intervention" is one of the episodes that almost started to feel self-parodying. The Buffybot was basically a plot device for gratuitous Spuffy pandering, although she was very funny, and Sarah appeared to be having fun with it.

"Teacher's Pet" vs. "Doublemeat Palace".

holypotatoes
15-12-07, 06:05 PM
KoC you should really play the "New Buffy episode elimination" game. You think what I think when it comes to Innocence. Intervention is up 19 to 8!!!! Ridiculous isn't it?

Wow two very cheesy episodes but I think I'll go with Doublemeat Palace. I used to watch Teacher's Pet a lot way back in the day but not so much anymore. It just got old after awhile. My absolute favorite part of DP is when Xander eat's the burger. OMG his line "Well, first you say it's cat, then you come in, hand me a burger, blah, blah, blah, five minutes later, oh, and by the way, it happens to be hot, delicious, human flesh. " :roll: :lol: It's just too funny! Then there was the guy with the grease in his ears. "They gave me these little sticks that I can use to clean my ears" it's just so gross when he's talking about it.

All The Way vs. Tough Love

Nostalgia
15-12-07, 07:43 PM
Hmm.. both episodes are stinkers :)..

I'll have to go with All The Way. Call me old fashioned, but I enjoy the classic vampires vs human throwback.. especially on a Halloween episode. I loved the plot twist in the episode as well.. the rest.. not so good.

However, Tough Love is just too much whiny Tara and annoying Willow stuff.. and not enough Glory vs Buffy.

The Yoko Factor vs School Hard

Weredog
15-12-07, 11:05 PM
I just recently watched "The Yoko Factor" again and I love it. The heated argument between the Core Four is heartbreaking to watch, but we had to see it. These guys had a lot to talk about -- for better or for worse. In true "Buffy" style, humour was slipped into the argument without losing any of its intensity. Like Xander's I just wish once you'd support me for once and now I realize that you were and I'm embarrased! in "Becoming," he's still got it with You two went to college and forgot about me, just left me in the basement to -- Tara's your girlfriend?! Oh, and to cap off this episode, we have Angel kick the schneider's out of Riley Finn -- I believe an entire act should have been devoted to that alone, but they had other things to cover I guess.

Helpless VS Checkpoint (Giles fired; Giles hired)

holypotatoes
16-12-07, 03:40 AM
This one's a toughy..... I'll go with Checkpoint. I love it when the Watcher's council comes to town but in Checkpoint it was just a lot funnier. I'm all for funny, Helpless is great but it's just depressing watching Giles go against Buffy. Heartbreaking really. In Checkpoint I find great humor in all of the watcher's. The woman who did her thesis on Spike was pretty funny. The whole topper to the ep though has to be the ending when Buffy doesn't put up with their crap anymore and tells them off. "You didn't come all the way from England to see if I was good enough to be let back in, you came here to see if I would let you back in. To give your jobs, your lives some sense of meaning." Buffy telling people off is just so fantastic. I'm all for take charge Buffy especially when it involves throwing swords at people to make them stop talking. :lol:

What's My Line Part 1 vs. Grad Day Part 1

basakbangel
16-12-07, 03:08 PM
Two great epps.

Grad Day part 1,

This episode contains lots of exciting things at the same time. Angel's being poisoned, faith, willow, mayor.. everthing. Lots of action, lots of excitement and a great connection to the part 2.

Bad Eggs Vs. Lessons

Nina
16-12-07, 04:40 PM
Lessons,

The first episode of season 7 made me excited for the season. The end with crazy Spike and all those bad guys + Buffy made me jump. I loved happy!Buffy and they found out about cellphones!

Bad Eggs was a little meh!, I liked the Buffy&Angel kiss in the window, but the episode didn't do much for me. I liked Cordy's bag BTW.

The I in the team vs Into the Woods

selenspuffy
16-12-07, 07:29 PM
Into the Woods. This one's a very dramatic episode, which I find myself crying while watching..I don't really like that Buffy&Riley relationship, bu this episode really impresses me!

Surprise Vs. Graduation P1

basakbangel
16-12-07, 09:14 PM
Holypotatoes, I liked your new avatar.

Surprise.

I lovee this episode deeply. In a lots of ways. Of course its the birthday of buffy and the first makinglove between angel and her. It was bittersweet,
very romantic and melancolic. Thats why I love it.

The Gift Vs. Chosen

holypotatoes
16-12-07, 09:39 PM
Thanks Basak!!!! :hug:

Most definitely The Gift! I'm one of the few who thought it should've ended the way it did in The Gift. It was an episode that stood for what the entire show was about. From that scene in the alley when the kid says "you're just a girl" to Buffy sacrificing herself to save not only her sister but the world. It was just a perfect episode and would of been a great series finale. My problem with Chosen is that it didn't feel like the end. I know a lot of people like it that way but I want to feel closure in a finale not, I wonder what's going to happen next and then never find out. So yeah The Gift for sure!

Angel vs.Passion

Weredog
16-12-07, 11:22 PM
"Angel" is a great episode, but "Passion" is even better. Unless I'm mistaking, it's the first episode where a major character dies ("Prophecy Girl" doesn't count :p ). Jenny's death was totally unexpected. I remember when I first watched it, I didn't understand how she died. My sister had to teach me that people can die when their necks break (I was 8! Give me a break!) Anyhow, however the stab in the heart was definitely later on in the episode when Giles walks up his stairs and.... yeah. That scene. Oh, and applause applause for Chris Beck who delivered a great score. It sure redeems his Willow/Oz theme he had in "Phases" :s

Innocence VS. Villains (Scoobies go bad)

Nina
16-12-07, 11:27 PM
Innocence,

I wasn't that keen on the 'Willow is complete evil after Tara died' stroyline. I liked darth Willow, but the episodes were not that strong. But Innocence is my favourite episode ever, every part is brilliant and the acting was great. And I like darth!Willow, but nobody can beat Angelus especially with Dru and Spike as his side-kicks.

Anne vs Selfless

holypotatoes
16-12-07, 11:50 PM
This one's a little bit of a toughy. I really like both. I'll go with Anne. Like I've posted many times before I LOVE :heart: it when Buffy is alone. I'm not really sure why. I like the fact that she doesn't always have to protect the scoobies and all of her problems seem very small when she's by herself. I absolutely adored when Buffy tells off the nurse at the blood bank. "I don't want trouble. I just wanna be alone in a quiet room with a chair and a fireplace and a tea cozy. I don't even know what a tea cozy is. But I want one!" OMG I absolutely love that line like you wouldn't believe!!! Plus in Anne we finally get to hear for the 1st time "I'm Buffy, the vampire slayer, and you are?" I think that's the 1st time the title of the series was actually said in the show. Yes I made the right choice between these 2. ANNE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :2party:

When She Was Bad vs. Dead Man's Party

Weredog
17-12-07, 04:42 AM
Oh boy, my two favourite episodes. Um, okay maybe not. Well I'm gonna have to say that "Dead Man's Party" is definitely better than "When She Was Bad." I'm not even sure what exactly is wrong with "Dead Man's Party." I know that the writers tried (and succeeded) to capture the awkward situations between long-lost-best-friends. I know that just this past summer, I reunited with this friend I hadn't seen in a year and as much as I had missed her, our reunion was very awkward. We very much felt the way The Scoobs did: What do we talk about now? Can we mentions the past few months? Can we mention the past at all? Now, understandably, Buffy and the gang had to go through this with her return. Although, I think that's what I didn't like about this episode: that they had to go through this 'cause I personally that I hate going through it. So in the end, this episode isn't bad in terms of acting, writing or the production. It was bad because Buffy, Willow, Xander, Joyce, and uh, Cordelia had to deal with this.

Real Me VS The Chain (non-Scoobie centric)

holypotatoes
17-12-07, 05:08 AM
Since I haven't read any of the comics and have no idea what they're about by default I'm going with Real Me. I actually really like this episode. This is the beginning of Giles' venture into the world of retail because of the Magic Box. We get to see Buffy being as annoyed by Dawn as we all will become. Plus we get Harmony back but this time trying to be the bad guy which is always very amusing. Her with all of her unicorns. :lol: And the fact that Buffy is so versatile and quick thinking to use said unicorn to stake a vamp is what makes me love Buffy even more!

Anne vs. Touched (Buffy alone)

spuffbeste
18-12-07, 02:54 PM
I'll go with Touched because of the great speech from Spike to Buffy. In my opinion, that was the best spuffy speech ever! It was emotional, meaningful and also it explained how deep Spike's love for Buffy is... It was the scene that Spike really explained all of his love to Buffy!!

Surprise vs. Innocence

Weredog
18-12-07, 05:52 PM
"Surprise" has some of the series' best lines, but "Innocence" is a much more powerful episode. I find it very cinematic. And unless I'm wrong, this began Joss' string of episodes where Buffy's master plan is revealed during its execution, and I love it. The episode very much divides how the characters were in season 1/early season 2 to how they'll be in late season 2/season 3. They are all leaving innocence: each dealing with the troubles of love (Buffy is dumped by Angel; Willow is rejected by Xander (again); Giles is betrayed by Jenny.) My favorite scene has to be the final one with Joyce giving Buffy a birthday cupcake to which she responds "I'll just let it burn" and rests her head on her mommy.

Triangle VS Storyteller

spuffbeste
19-12-07, 04:56 PM
I'll go with Storyteller if we look at which is funnier! In Triangle, yes, the discussion between Anya and Willow was kind of funny but it can't race with Storyteller in that category. In storyteller, I liked how Andrew tells his own point of view to this gang with sarcastic sentences. The scene when he telled Spike and Buffy relationship was so funny!:D

Helpless vs. Dead Man's Party

holypotatoes
19-12-07, 11:01 PM
Toughy but I'll go with Helpless. Even though I hate the fact that Giles went against Buffy like that, it's still a great episode. It's sooo creepy with that Zackary Kralik guy. When he kidnaps Joyce and starts taking polaroids of her. *shiver* Then when Buffy goes into the room and the walls are covered with all of the polaroids. God it's just creepy as hell!!!!! I like Dead Man's Party but I can't stand the scoobies during it. Especially Xander. He was such a prick to Buffy. I mean I understand that Buffy left her responsibilities as the slayer in Sunnydale but it's not like she didn't fight evil in LA. That fight at the end I get really pissed off by. I wish there was more bitchy Buffy in episodes. "You want to talk about being an idiot, NIGHTHAWK!!!" Oh Buffy the bitch is great, or I guess I should say SMG the bitch is great (ie. Cruel Intentions) but that's off topic. :lol:

When She Was Bad vs. Dead Man's Party (going with the bitchy Buffy theme:p )

BlasterBoy
20-12-07, 12:14 AM
When She Was Bad, easy. A very good season opener, and Bitchy!Buffy was a great character movement. Her smashing The Master's bones was amazing and iconic. Some moments were annoying and all, but all in all, a good episode.

Dead Man's Party is okay, and, unlike some, I don't mind the big fight. I think it's amazingly well acted. But, the zombie storyline is pathetic.

The Harsh Light of Day vs. Lover's Walk (Spike's back)

holypotatoes
20-12-07, 01:09 AM
I'll go with Lover's Walk. I could really care less about Spike anyway but I think this ep was the better of the two. What's funny is everytime I want to watch this episode my disc skips on my favorite part. The scene with Joyce and Spike in the kitchen is just too damn good. "Do you have any of those lil marshmallows?" :roll: And then when Spike calls out Buffy and Angel on how they really feel. That's probably one of my favorite Spike moments in the entire series. "You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both. You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends." Ah it's so touching and so true! That quiver in Spikes voice pulls at my heart strings every time. Oh and how can I forget Buffy's "tell me you don't love me". That's just a horribly sad ending.

Gingerbread vs. The Zeppo

BlasterBoy
20-12-07, 01:16 AM
The Zeppo, easily. Gingerbread sucks royally, imo. The whole story is a joke and I don't like the majority of the episode. But, Joyce's speech about how silence is this town's disease was just....wow. I loved it. But, other than that? Nu-uh.

The Zeppo was a great perspective on what Xander has to deal with. Great insight into his character and great comedy. These zombie characters were hilarious and I love how the cheesy drama played with the hysterical comedy. Absolutely amazing, imo! Just brilliant!

I Was Made To Love You vs. Out of Mind, Out of Sight (underrated episodes)

holypotatoes
20-12-07, 01:39 AM
This one's really tough. I guess I'll go with I Was Made To Love You. First of all it had one of the most shocking endings that any episode of Buffy ever had. Seeing Joyce dead in the background as Buffy looks up the stairs was horrible. The episode was pretty funny though. I love when Anya and Tara are walking down the street and they're talking about money and investing. It's just a very funny moment especially when they run into April. One of Buffy's best lines came from this ep, "I'm tired of strong little women who aren't me." :lol: Good stuff. It's really funny when Xander's talking about which guy hasn't thought about making a robot. Out of Mind, Out of Sight was a good ep. It had a good concept but it's not one of my favorites. Although we do get the 1st Buffy standing still, listening to her surroundings, and then being able to beat up the bad guy. Which she ended up repeating many times over usually starting with the words, "shut up", oh wait she still said "shut up Cordelia" in Out of Mind, Out of Sight too. :p

Family vs. Gone

Weredog
20-12-07, 06:33 AM
Even though "Family" has a lot of cheese, it is way better than "Gone." "Gone" is just horrible, like most of Fury's works (ie. Go Fish, I in Team, Real Me). "Family" is great for its little scenes rather than the main plot (Tara's family suspecting she's a demon). My favourite scenes were when Buffy stopped Dawn from leaving the house, Buffy and Xander discuss about their relationship with Tara, and Willow and Tara dance/float. This episode is significant for me personally because it was the first episode that I, like the gang, accepted Tara. I was a hardcore Willow/Oz fan prior but "Family" made me cheer for Willow/Tara.

I in Team VS. Real Me

Nostalgia
20-12-07, 07:47 AM
Ugh, both bad episodes. Gonna go with The I In Team, because at least that had some great character moments. I loved seeing Buffy on the camera, and basically making Maggie look like a fool. It was also really cool to see Adam for the first time.. I think he may have been the most anticipated big bad because he came so late. Some cool fight scenes, some funny dialog (yummy sushi pj's) make it slightly better than Real Me. I love character "fun" episodes, but "Real Me" was just too catered to the easy watched. Harmony and her group of vamps trying to be threatening? It wasn't funny, and it wasn't scary. What does that equal? Certainly not good at all. And Dawn at first sight? Not liking her.

Prophecy Girl vs Becoming (Part II)

holypotatoes
20-12-07, 10:59 PM
Some cool fight scenes, some funny dialog (yummy sushi pj's) make it slightly better than Real Me.

It's too bad you're banned right now but hopefully you'll be back to see my Yummy Sushi avatar I made a couple of days ago. I'll be putting it up Sunday like usual so hopefully you'll be back soon enough to see it :D

Definitely Becoming Part 2, hands down! OMG how can you not like this episode. It has everything in it. You get the ultimate fight at the end. You get all the drama with Buffy trying to decide what she should do. One of the funniest scenes happened in this episode. The scene where Spike and Joyce are alone in the living room in that awekward silence. Joyce: "Have we met?" Spike: "Uh you hit me in the head with an axe one time. Remember. Get the hell away from my daughter." :rotflmao: I know I mentioned the fight and how great it was but the ending is just soooo sad!!!! The music is absolutely perfect for the scene. I felt horrible for Buffy the moment she knew she had to kill Angel and not Angelus. It was one of the best season finales the series ever had.

Selfless vs. Surprise

basakbangel
21-12-07, 12:21 PM
It's a bit late but I just logined: You're welcome holypotatoes!

Surprise,


I said this dozens of times but again, nearly everything about this epp impressed me deeply. Buffy and Angel making love for the first time and It was so bittersweet and melanolic.

First Date Vs. Lessons

Weredog
21-12-07, 07:44 PM
"Lessons" is one of my top-ranking episodes and is definitely the best season opener. Although in "Buffy" terms, that doesn't mean alot since they're usually weak. But "Lessons" aced at what it aimed for. Although it was lacking the Scoobies as Scoobies, they were still great to watch as they all 'rehabilitated' from last season. It was great to see Xander as a grown up; Giles teaching (or should I say... watching) Willow; Willow controlling her magic; Anya being iffy about her vengeance powers; Dawn as a young woman; and Buffy as Dawn's sister. I thought Crazy Spike was a great idea, as opposed to what could've been Broody Spike like Angel. The return of Sunnydale High was the highlight though. It was great to have Buffy inspect the halls and keep an eye around. 5 stars for sure!

Smashed VS. Wrecked

holypotatoes
22-12-07, 02:01 AM
Oh Weredog you're new sig is gonna get me in trouble at school. :lol:

Anyhoo, I think I'll go with Smashed. It was a tough choice for me though. We have the return of Amy in the non rat form. I love the exchange between Buffy and Amy in the bedroom. Buffy: "How've ya been?" Amy: "Rat, you?" Buffy: "Dead." Amy: "Oh." :roll: I don't really know why I find that so amusing but I do. We get to see Willow abuse her powers majorly. Plus we get boys dancing in cages. :thumbup: And last but not least we get standing up Spuffy sex. :angelnot: Wrecked is good because we get to see how Buffy feels after the incident. I laugh every time Buffy is about to sit down in the kitchen and then winces in pain as she sits. I don't think the pain was because a building fell on her, if you get my drift. In the words of Krysta Now: "Nobody rocks the c@ck like Krysta Now." ;)

Beer Bad vs. The Harsh Light of Day

basakbangel
22-12-07, 12:20 PM
The Harsh Light of Day,

In my opinion this episode is a bit different than others. Liked Spike/Buffy fight ehich was different and in light. It reallt reminds me about my old days and I'm nostalgic here.:D. Also, loved that Buffy gives the ring to Angel.

This Year's Girl Vs. Touched

holypotatoes
23-12-07, 12:15 AM
Hmmm. I'm not the biggest fan of either. I do like Touched. It's one of the few S7 episodes I like but I think I'll have to go with This Year's Girl on this one. The only reason it beat out Touched is because of Willow. I absolutely die of laughter when she's about to hit Faith with her bag but then Faith says "Do it Red and you lose an arm." only to have Willow smack her with the bag anyway about a minute later. :lol: It's just too funny. Oh and Tara's "5 what by 5 what?" with Willow's reply "Exactly. No one knows!" Plus I love Joyce and Faith's interaction in this episode. Joyce: "Actually I was thinking my daughter's going to kill you soon." Faith: "That a fact." Joyce: "More like a bet." Faith: "You've got a pair on you, Joyce. I like seeing that in a woman your age."

The I In Team vs. Goodbye Iowa (back to back episodes)

BlasterBoy
23-12-07, 06:30 AM
Both are not so great, but none are bad.

I'd say The I In Team, but mostly because it has one great Buffy moment that's really iconic to me. First off, I love the whole concept of Buffy joining the Initiative! That was really cool. But, the whole, "she's leaving her friends behind" thing was way overdone and in your face. It was just absurdly annoying. But, god, I love Maggie. Why the hell did they have to kill her? She was the perfect villain. So fascinating, in my mind. Her plan to kill Buffy was so deranged and messed up. The iconic moment was Buffy's speech to Maggie. Don't remember any lines from it, at the moment, but that just shows how much it amazes me. No lines remembered, but I still remember those chills going done my spine.

Two To Go vs. Villains

holypotatoes
23-12-07, 06:44 AM
*Tags Ben's hand* Thanks hun.

Most definitely Two To Go! The fight between Buffy and Dark Willow is just absolutely fantastic. It's not even the fist fight itself but the dialogue before the smack down happens. Willow's, "Buffy you hate it here as much as I do. I'm just more honest about it." was such a complete burn. I love Dark Willow so much. Way better than the normal Willow, imo. Oh and her, "Sorry the trip can be kinda ROUGH, if you, you know, aren't me" I really like how she says "rough" cause it sounds like what a dog does but it's meant in a different way. And last but not least we get the return of bad ass Giles. He's great. Villains is alright but I usually skip over the entire episode and watch the last scene when Dark Willow skins Warren. That part's just too good to miss.

Seeing Red vs. Empty Places

BlasterBoy
23-12-07, 06:56 AM
Seeing Red, easy. Empty Places sucks, big time. It's just a huge disgrace to all the characters, imo. And boring as hell.

Seeing Red, on the other hand, is an absolutely fabulous episode. I've always liked the Trio, but in this and "Dead Things", you really see how sadistic Warren is, and it leaves your mouth open. His beating of Xander and Buffy is amazing. Buffy vs. Warren was an awesome fight, and really a great way of conveying one of the lasting messages of Buffy. Great way to do it. And, of course, the end shocker was fabulously done. I mean, honestly. Who would have guessed that Tara and Buffy were going to be shot? And it was just SO well done.

Lie To Me vs. I Was Made To Love You (underrated episodes)

basakbangel
23-12-07, 12:44 PM
Lie to me.

I liked the Ford thing. And mostly, I adore the season 2 atmosphere, feeling and everything that's why I find myself lost a little bit because I LOVE S2. I was made to love you.. hmm.. that was OK but nothing special. April robot was cute though.:D

Where the Wild Things Are Vs. Superstar

holypotatoes
23-12-07, 02:59 PM
OMG Superstar sucks ass. Most definitely Where the Wild Things Are!!!! I actually am one of the few who love this episode. It's one of the better eps of season 4 imo. One of my favorite parts has to be between Spike and Anya in the bronze. When they're talking about their powers and how they should've appreciated them more, makes me laugh. That's when I thought they would've made a good couple but nope that never happened. Oooh we also get singing Giles which was fun. The scoobies reaction when they were watching him was pretty good. After saying all of that my all time favorite part that makes the whole episode extremely amusing is that very last scene. Willow says "must've been horrible?", the look on Sarah's face and then the cut to Marc's was the greatest, "yup, horrible, mmm hmm" :lol:

Gone vs. Out of Mind, Out of Sight (invisible people)

basakbangel
23-12-07, 04:43 PM
I watched "Where the Wild things are" with my friend we kept talking during it but It was a good episode anyway. We were like " Oh, is it finnished?"

Out of Mind, Out of Sight ,

Not that easy to choose though.

It was different first of all. Cordelia and Buffy part was funny I know I shouldn't be thinking of it as "funny" but I do think that It was so silly-funny. Off the subject but I always mix(?) this episode with Out of my mind and my friends always laughing at me when I do it. Anyway, I loved the girl because of her mystery..:D

Pangs Vs. Prophecy Girl (Episodes starting with "P" :D)

holypotatoes
23-12-07, 04:57 PM
Oh man another toughy. On one hand we have fruitpunch mouth and then the other we have Thanksgiving..... I can't let my favorite holiday down PANGS!!!!! I love Buffy trying to make Turkey Day dinner. Xander getting the "funny syphilis" is just highly amusing. I love how Buffy focuses on all of the meaningless stuff. "You don't have a ricer?!" or the peas bit, Buffy: "These are frozen, they'll be all mushy." Giles: "I like my peas mushy." :roll: Then you get Spike getting shot with arrows, which is always entertaining. We also get a brief return of Angel which in turn leads to a great episode of Ats. OMG and how could I forget one of my favorite lines that everytime I hear "sham" I think about this, Buffy: "It is a sham. But it's a sham with yams. It's a yam sham." :rotflmao: Prophecy Girl was a good episode. Like I mentioned before we got to hear the fruitpunch mouth line. And we finally got to hear the Buffy theme song in an actual episode which was very exciting.

Something Blue vs. Selfless

BlasterBoy
23-12-07, 07:05 PM
Stacy, you gave me this one :evil:

This one is possibly the easiest decision....ever.

SELFLESS!!!!! Selfless by so much! People adore Something Blue, but I think it's so overrated and it's just an "eh" episode. Like, they had some funny parts like Buffy looking at a wedding dress and Riley's reaction: "You're marrying a man named Spike?" "You'll like him. Well, no one really likes him." :lol: :roll: But, I keep getting that feeling that the whole episode was made to satisfy Spuffy's before it even happened, which was stupid, imo. Also, some parts were not funny, and just stupid. Like, Xander's demon magnet. Yeah, that happens a lot but it wasn't funny in this episode and Buffy's act got a little old by the time they got to the graveyard.

Selfless, on the other hand, is a perfect example of what a character episode should be. And I mean PERFECT. Probably in my top 10! I was amazed at it. Anya has always been a favorite of mine and her comedy is always so delightful, but we rarely get to see a different glimpse of her. We've seen it before, like "The Body" and "Entropy", but, imo, never to this extent. Emma gets to play drama and it's fantastic. Emma is a fantastic actress who I adore. She's just amazing. The fight between Buffy vs. Anya and Buffy's moral rights being brought up, as well as more Willow stuff and a callback to "Kick his ass," one of the most discussed lines evah. It all came together. We also got a flashback to "Once More, With Feeling" with an amazing and fantastic song written by Joss himself. Also, we got the death of Halfrek and the return of D'Hoffryn as well as Olaf The Troll. Flashbacks in other languages, etc., etc. Plus, that end scene with Anya and Xander. God, Emma belt it out again! I love her. I love her character. I love this episode. Plain and simple.

EDIT:

Oh, yeah. Sorry :lol:

Conversations With Dead People vs. Selfless

holypotatoes
23-12-07, 10:12 PM
I know it was gonna be easy for you but hun you forgot to give us a challenge!!!!! Please pick 2 eps to go head to head.

holypotatoes
23-12-07, 11:59 PM
*tags Ben's hand*

Umm how about Selfless. Just to make you happy Ben! :hug: No really I do like this episode a lot. It gives us a lovely glimpse into the life of Anya which I don't think was ever done too well in the show. They tried during Triangle but that ep wasn't very good. I loved how they brought up the whole S2 "kick his ass" thing. I do think they should've spent more time on that part though. I love the fight between Buffy and Anya. It's funny when I watched for the 1st time I was shocked by the sword through the chest because at the time I didn't see that much of S6 so I didn't know that vengeance demons can't be killed through a sword in the chest. It was just a great character building episode.

Into the Woods vs. Triangle (back to back eps)

BlasterBoy
24-12-07, 12:19 AM
Love both, but Into The Woods. First off, I love Ruffy. I know....weird, but it's a very nice relationship, imo. Anyways, the whole premise of the story is very well thought out and the Riley/Buffy confrontation is fabulous. I love all of it, and you can just tell that Spike wants Buffy when he comes to rat out Riley. But, my favorite part has to be Xander's two speeches. His speech to Buffy is just amazing and the music while Buffy runs to stop Riley from leaving is truly heartbreaking. I was so sad when Buffy couldn't catch Riley....not sure why, but I was. And Xander's speech to Anya was so beautiful. Xanya is, really, the perfect couple.

When She Was Bad vs. Buffy vs. Dracula

holypotatoes
24-12-07, 12:32 AM
Oh man another tough choice.... You know what I'll say Buffy vs Dracula but they're basically a tie. I love the fact that Buffy kept her getting bit by Dracula a secret. I love when Giles wants to go back into the pit with the vamp girls, "my shoe!" :lol: How could I forget to mention Xander. OMG all of his "bator" jokes were hilarious. "Don't talk about the dark master.............. bator." :roll: It's just all good stuff. When She Was Bad I absolutely adore. I've said it once and I'll say it again, Buffy the bitch is fantastic!!!!!!!!! I love the dance in the Bronze between Buffy and Xander. What Buffy said to him was such a burn. Buffy: "Xander did I ever thank you for saving my life?" Xander: "No." Buffy: "Don't you wish I would?" The ending was sad but all in all it was a fantabulous episode. I just wish there were more Buffy the bitch episodes. SMG plays a villain/bitchy character perfectly! :xd

School Hard vs. Fool For Love

BlasterBoy
24-12-07, 04:47 AM
Hard, but Fool For Love. First off, Doug Petrie is great. He writes perfect episodes, and this one does not let you down. Spike is not a good character, imo. But I absolutely loved him in this episode. His speeches and him reenacting him killing slayers is disturbing and chilling. James just does it so easily and the editing is fantastic as well as the directing. The way it's made is just.....wow. All the flashbacks are amazing, and the Niki vs. Spike fight leaves your mouth hanging open. Absolutely stunning. It's not very often that a writer and actor come together to make, in your opinion, a bad character absolutely amazing. This episode is a visual and writing masterpiece.

Checkpoint vs. Blood Ties (two other amazing Season 5 episodes)

holypotatoes
24-12-07, 05:00 AM
Definitely Checkpoint. Blood Ties never did anything for me. I absolutely love when the Watcher's Council comes to town. This episode especially. I love how they once again put her through a bunch of tests. My favorite Council member has to be that woman who did her thesis on Spike. The way Spike talks to her is just funny. "So tell me pet, now that we're such good friends. How's the slayer doing? Getting high scores in all categories?" :lol: I honestly don't have to say anything else besides acknowledging the ending. Wasn't it just amazing? This was an episode where even if you didn't like the entire show the last 5 minutes make it all worth it. I think it's brilliant every time Buffy tells someone off especially Quentin Travers who really deserves it half the time. My favorite part has to be this, "You didn't come all the way from England to see if I was good enough to be let back in. You came all the way from England to see if I would let you back in. To give your jobs, your lives some sense of meaning." OMG it's just great!!!!!!

The Pack vs. Some Assembly Required

BlasterBoy
24-12-07, 05:03 AM
I so agree, Stacy! :D

The Pack, easily. Some Assembly Required isn't as bad as some people make it out to be, but it's nowhere near good. The Pack was the first high quality episode of the show, imo. I've always loved Xander and I loved seeing N. Brendon doing some acting out of the norm. Xander's attack on Buffy was so gruesome for Xander. The Hyena story was very funny (I don't think it was supposed to be), but what it came out to be made it all worthwhile. Also, bye Principal Flutie. Luckily, we'll get Snyder, but we'll (not really) miss you. See ya.

This Year's Girl vs. Consequences

holypotatoes
24-12-07, 05:13 AM
I think I'll go with Consequences. It was a close vote though. I'm not the biggest fan of either one but I just couldn't believe Faith blamed Buffy for the death of that guy! I was at that "Oh hell no you didn't!" moment when Faith walks out of Giles' office. But I do like how Giles will still stick up for Buffy. I like how Angel tries to help Faith but in the end not being able to get anywhere because of stupid Wesley. Then we once again sort of get a bitchy Buffy or at least a snotty Buffy. When Wes asks Buffy what he can do to help and she replies "You still got your ticket back to the Mother Country?" BURN!!!!! I like This Year's Girl mainly for the part where Willow smacks Faith with her bag. :lol:

Innocence vs. Becoming Part 2

BlasterBoy
24-12-07, 05:17 AM
So hard! Two top 5 episodes, imo. But, I'll go with Becoming Part 2, just for the swordfight. Everything in both episodes was amazing, but I guess I'll talk about Becoming Part 2. The action, first off, was extrodainary. Buffy flipping the police officer was hilarious, imo. Also, loved the end of the teaser: "She is highly dangerous." Spike and Buffy's alliance was unexpected and Spike trying to fit in with the Summer's family was truly hysterical! :lol: :roll: I loved the Buffy/Joyce spat. Totally realistic. Too much goodness to mention, but, let me just say how awesome the last scene with "Full Of Grace" playing is. Truly awesome.

Graduation Day Part 2 vs. Grave

holypotatoes
24-12-07, 05:43 AM
Obviously Grad Day Part 2!!! I'm not a big fan of Grave. The only part I like is that 1st scene but other than that I don't really like it. Grad Day 2 however is amazing! We get a great Bangel moment that was extremely sexy but shocking none the less. I couldn't believe what I was watching at 1st. Then after that we get the whole school banding together to fight the extremely cheesy giant snake formerly known as Mayor Wilkins. The blowing up of the school was fantastic. I mean who hasn't thought about blowing up the school? Am I the only one? :err: I love Grad Day 2 soooo much this paragraph doesn't do how much I love it, justice. :p

The Dark Age vs. Doublemeat Palace

selenspuffy
25-12-07, 02:55 PM
I's say Dark Age. Doublemeat Palace was funny and nice. Misunderstandings and yucky stuff:D I'd prefer The Dark Age, I love its gloomy atmosphere! Plus, to see Giles as the bad guy:p, that was different and fun!

Enemies Vs. Body

holypotatoes
25-12-07, 03:21 PM
Most definitely ENEMIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :happydance: :3party: I'm biased towards any other episode that goes against it I'm sorry. I do love The Body, Anya's speech is absolutely heartbreaking and it brings me to tears everytime. The entire episode was shot extremely well. However Enemies is the best episode! I love it all. I love the fact that this is the episode where all of the scoobies officially find out that Faith isn't on their side anymore. My absolute favorite part is right before the actual fight, starting with, "all of our time together and we never tried chains." Brilliant dialogue between the characters. We have the fantastic fight between Buffy and Faith which is like the best capper to an episode ever. This episode starts the distrust that Buffy starts to feel toward Angel which always leads to some good drama. All in all this was the best episode ever created!!!! :p

The Prom vs. Homecoming

Jenni Lou
25-12-07, 07:22 PM
hmmm....I'm not a huge fan of either actually. Although I guess I prefer The Prom because the whole Slayerfest thing in Homecoming was really lame. Although, the sweet Willow/Xander-ness was nice. :D To be honest, I don't remember much about The Prom. It's been a few years since I watched it. I just know that I never really liked when I did watch it.

Lover's Walk vs. Never Leave Me

Weredog
25-12-07, 07:55 PM
"Never Leave Me" wasn't interesting at all. I thought it was Goddard's weakest episode because so little happens. Buffy figures out it's The First, whoop whoop, whilst Spike and Andrew's season arc are given more questions than answers (ie. "What's with Spike's song?" "Andrew spilled blood for what?")
"Lover's Walk" on the other hand was great. Marsters was hilarious as drunken Spike. Unlike Gellar in "Beer Bad," I thought he accurately nailed the part of a drunk. A part of me really wishes Dru would've made a tiny guest appearance... in a flashback at least. My only complaint with this episode was the segue from Cordelia's accident to the random funeral burial. I know they did it for laughs, but I thought it was just the biggest middle finger. I thought it was very un-Joss-y if you ask me. His twists are more slick than that. Great episode nonetheless!

Doppelgangland VS. The Replacement

holypotatoes
26-12-07, 02:28 AM
Definitely Doppelgangland! There's just no comparison here. It was the 1st time we were introduced to Anya. Very funny, especially in the Bronze when she's trying to order a beer. One of my favorite parts though is when Willow suspects that vamp Willow is gay, Buffy's like "Willow, just remember, a vampire's personality has nothing to do with the person it was." and Angel replies "Well, actually... That's a good point." Buffy's look to him makes me laugh. BUT nothing makes me laugh harder in this episode then when the scoobies thought Willow was dead. They all start blaming themselves for her death. "I'm the one who called her old reliable!" :lol: Good stuff.

Passion vs. Innocence

basakbangel
26-12-07, 06:00 PM
HARRRD!

*still thinks of the answer* Hmm.. I really really love both of them and they are all my favourite but I guess I'll go with, Innocence. Very powerful episode and deep, mystical..shocking and cool. Guess I used all the adjectives:D
It's horrible for Angel to be Angelus but that's why this episode is special and different. I loved It's darkness and what a pity for Buffy to see her lover and losing him.

Grave Vs. Surprise

TrueVengeance
26-12-07, 06:13 PM
Grave, no doubt about it. Dark Willow was fantastic (even if Tara wasn't there *sigh*), and I find Willow's storyline much more interesting than Buffy and Angel's. I'm not a big fan of season 2 in general, mainly because of Buffy/Angel/Angelus.

But Grave seemed like a perfect ending a dark season. With Xander saving the day just by telling Willow that he loved her, love saved the world. Not a slayer, a powerful witch, nor a reformed vampire of some kind. Love did it. Plus at the end we have that amazing little montage with the song "Prayer of..." <Can't remember the rest lol. With Willow ccrying into Xander's arms, Buffy realizing she wants to show Dawn the world, not protect her from it. And the adorable Anya helping Giles out of the MagicBox. Great.

Fool for Love vs Restless

modifiedblind
26-12-07, 06:42 PM
prayer of st francis :-) yeah thats a great ending

holypotatoes
27-12-07, 01:10 AM
Hmm, I'm not the biggest fan of either but I guess I'll go with Restless. It was good episode overall. I really like the ending with Buffy and the first slayer. Especially when Buffy's like "Are you quite finished?" when the first slayer is trying to stab her. Then when Buffy gets up starts lecturing the other slayer on hair care and what impression she should be making in the workplace. :lol: Oh and how can I not mention the Cheese Man! He was pretty funny. I love Buffy's quote right at the end of the ep, "Well at least you didn't have that guy with the cheese. Don't know where the hell that came from!" the looks the scoobies gave eachother makes me laugh out loud.

In Fool for Love one of my favorite parts has to be when Spike hits Buffy in her side while they're playing pool. You just want Buffy to kick him or something. The ending has to be the best part of the episode though. When Buffy tells Spike that he's beneath her (and not in a good way ;) ) it's such a burn! It's fantastic how Buffy just threw that back in his face.

This Year's Girl vs. Consequences (Faith centric episodes)

basakbangel
27-12-07, 08:00 PM
Consequences.

I don't really know what to say but I just prefer it:P Well, ok, Faith was cooler in that episode and what I truly liked was that this episode was serious. I didn't have that much funny scenes. It was all dark and everything, serious things are happening. It's also smth that you like they grew up and they are trying to handle things.

Hope this hasn't asked before.

OMWF Vs. Passion

holypotatoes
27-12-07, 08:11 PM
OMG Passion hands down!!!! I couldn't stand OMWF. Don't get me wrong I love musicals but this one just didn't do it for me. Passion was just a good episode. I rarely watch it but that doesn't mean it's not good. When Angelus kills Jenny it's just sooo horrible. I mean he didn't even bite her or anything a vampire would do, he just broke her neck and let her fall to the ground. Then the way he set the whole thing up for Giles. :( Heartbreaking. Another creepy thing was all of the drawings Angelus did for all the scoobies. Not good.

Killed By Death vs. Doublemeat Palace

basakbangel
27-12-07, 08:41 PM
OMG Passion hands down!!!! I couldn't stand OMWF. Don't get me wrong I love musicals but this one just didn't do it for me. Passion was just a good episode. I rarely watch it but that doesn't mean it's not good. When Angelus kills Jenny it's just sooo horrible. I mean he didn't even bite her or anything a vampire would do, he just broke her neck and let her fall to the ground. Then the way he set the whole thing up for Giles. :( Heartbreaking. Another creepy thing was all of the drawings Angelus did for all the scoobies. Not good.

Killed By Death vs. Doublemeat Palace

Agreed.

I was expecting or just hoping to see Passion as the answer:2party:

I some like OMWF but absolutly not favorite because of a lots of reasons. I personally think that It'd be a wrong idea to watch OMWF if you watch Buffy for the first time because you'd probably get a different first impression. I JUST ADORE PASSION.

The answer to your question, Killed By death. Genarally S6 is one of my least favorites. But S2 is just amazing, perfect!! Killed by death because I loved that creepy demon and It was different to watch that episode alone at our summerhouse, in a way that I don't understand. Buffy was wearing all black and she was at the hospital. She was depressed.

New Moon Rising Vs. Halloween

holypotatoes
28-12-07, 12:11 AM
Oh man Basak, this matchup is horrible! I guess I'll go with Halloween. The only thing that made it better was when Ghost Willow walks through the wall in the library. Giles' reaction was extremely funny. I always wonder how many takes they did of that just for the simple fact that it would take a long time to pick up all those cards. :p New Moon Rising was sort of dumb. I mean I guess they needed to get closure on the Willow/Oz relationship before she went and started a new but IDK I just didn't like it that much. Although that ending scene with Buffy and Riley was sort of nice. I still wonder how that conversation would've gone. "There's some things I need to tell you.... about my past." OMG if someone said that to me I would think the worst. :lol: Oh and we also get Willow coming out to Buffy which was a nice moment. It's a toss up between the 2 episodes really.

Bad Girls vs. Dirty Girls (episodes with "Girls" in the title)

basakbangel
29-12-07, 12:53 PM
Bad Girls because I don't remember Dirty Girls:D-really I'm serious.
But Though It was different and wierd and fun:D to see buffy like faith. When buffy jump on to leap of Angel's, It was soooo fun to Angel's reaction. like "huh?!"

Amends Vs Forever

Nina
29-12-07, 07:09 PM
Amends,

The only thing I remember of Forever was the Angel & Buffy part and the end. It was a nice episode and I think I love it more as The Body. But it can't beat Amends.

Amends has Angelus & Liam flash-backs, snow, a great speech, good acting and the first real confrontation between Giles and Angel after Passion. And it has to evil moustage of Angelus. :roll:

Touched vs Lies my Parents told me (Two of my less favourite episodes)

holypotatoes
29-12-07, 07:37 PM
I guess I'll go with Lies My Parents Told Me, even though I actually like both of these episodes. I like how Robin wanted to avenge his mothers death. I mean it's only natural. He basically spent his entire life looking for the vampire that killed her and now he knew who he was and was going to take advantage of that. I didn't like Giles once again going against Buffy. I don't know what it was with Giles in season 7 but he just got to be so untrustworthy. It sort of pissed me off. As I've said before I like when Buffy's alone. I think she works better when she doesn't have to take care of the scoobies. That's why I like Touched. I loved how Buffy proved that she was right when she went back to the vineyard. We had a good Spuffy moment I guess. And we got the 1st sight of the sythe which is just a sweet weapon. :D

Triangle vs. Beer Bad

basakbangel
30-12-07, 03:57 PM
Beer Bad,

I don't know what makes me like it but I do. Maybe It's because of drunk Buffy:D Poor Xandeeeer! And my favourite part was at the end of the episode where Buffy hits Parker! Ehuheee! Go Buffy! Beat him up:D

I think Cavewomen Buffy will win..

Earshot Vs. Sprial

holypotatoes
30-12-07, 04:08 PM
Hmmm I think I'll go with Earshot. Neither episode is that great but I like Earshot a lot more than Spiral. I like the fact that when Buffy finds out she'll have this power the first thing she does is to try and read Angels mind. It's such a girlfriend thing to do. :p I always laugh when they don't know what'll actually happen to her so she's checking for horns and such. :lol: Oh and then we get one of the worst stunt doubles in the history of BTVS, the lunch lady. I mean she was a fat lunch lady and then the stunt double is a skinny man! :roll: That was just highly amusing to me.

Bargaining Part 2 vs. What's My Line Part 2

basakbangel
30-12-07, 04:22 PM
What's My Line Part 2

(just told it in rating avatar game but again, great avie:))

Bargaining.. I don't love it that much. Lots of action, complication,more than necessary demons and mess. On the other hand what's my line part 2 was fun. Especially the part where Kendra says "that's me favorite shirt, that's me only shirt" :D.

Hush Vs. Intervention

holypotatoes
30-12-07, 04:50 PM
Hush for sure! I do like Intervention but definitely not as much as Hush. Hush was just perfect. There's nothing else I need to say. It had great direction. It was well written in terms of there not being any dialogue but their expressions and actions are what I would consider to be the written out part. The actors did a fantastic job at relaying the message even though they couldn't speak to get the point across. My favorite part has to be the slideshow. Buffy's masturbation motion gets me everytime! :lol: My favorite part in Intervention has to be when Buffy gets back:

Buffy: The who-whatting-how-with-huh?
Anya: OK, that's denial. That usually comes before anger.
Buffy: I am not having sex with Spike!
Anya: Anger.

:rotflmao: :roll: :lol: It's just sooo good!

Forever vs. The Weight Of The World

basakbangel
30-12-07, 04:55 PM
My avatar says Forever:hf2:

I really do love both of them and It's so hard for me to choose one but I'll choose Forever. very practical, depressing, ironic, sad but great. I really loved the part where Angel comes and comforts Buffy. The whole "being silent but deeply hurt" was just a great point that makes this epp great.

The Body Vs. Conversations With Dead People

holypotatoes
30-12-07, 05:09 PM
No contest, The Body. I actually can't stand CWDP! The Body was fantastic in a horribly sad way. It looked perfect. I liked how they didn't put background music in the scenes, it was a nice change. What always weirds me out is those hard cuts to Joyce in between every scene. It's just so creepy. I liked the moment between Buffy and Tara. They didn't really no much about eachother so the awkward silence was sort of a lighter part of the episode. It gave us a nice break from from all the horrible sadness that was happening. But my all time favorite part in the entire episode has to be Anya's speech. OMG it's just so depressing! That's the only part in this entire episode that get's me to either tear up or actually cry. Every single time. It just pulls at your heart strings everytime she says "why?" :cutecry:

Him vs. Storyteller

selenspuffy
30-12-07, 07:32 PM
Storyteller. Both, not my favourites but "Storyteller" is funnier. Him is also a funny one, but 'ridicolous' word would look better on it..

Surprise Vs. I Only Have Eyes For You

Yosso
30-12-07, 09:54 PM
Ooh, not easy. Though I'd go with I Only Have Eyes For You, on original viewing my opinion would be reversed, but every time I watch the episode I love it more and more. It's charged with somewhat subtle undertones and emotions, the Buffy/Angel saga represented by the spirit was a brilliant direction to take the episode. It had great character moments for most of the main ones - Angelus, Spike, Giles, Buffy, Willow and just hits the right notes everytime. Surprise is good but the subtlety and character driven energy of I Only Have Eyes For You trumps it.

Villains vs. (oh god, what's that episode called?... *mind blank*) Tough Love

Yep, I remembered it!

Two episodes where we see a very stroppy wicca-happy Willow.

holypotatoes
30-12-07, 11:08 PM
Tough Love, why not! I don't like either episode really. Each of them only have one or two things I like so it was a toss up between who won this match. I guess my favorite part of Tough Love and the only reason I actually watch this episode is for the gold stars scene. When Buffy says "Because they'll take you away!" :( God it's just so sad because she's trying so hard to give annoying ass Dawn the best life possible but Dawn is such a pain in the ass that it's starting to be impossible for Buffy to do so. I think this was the episode where Dawn stopped being so whiny, at least in season 5. I like Buffy being a hard ass. It works for her character. :p

Tabula Rasa vs. The Gift

Weredog
31-12-07, 04:12 AM
I love "Tabula Rasa" but I just gotta go with "The Gift." That is a definite Joss Whedon classic. The first couple acts seem to drag, but it quickly picks up and picks up very nicely. I love the fight sequences for its subtlety. This was a battle that Buffy had to win and yet they didn't make it extraordinary ala "Becoming" or "Graduation Day". Genius. And last but obviously not least, Buffy's voiceover in the end -- beautiful stuff.

Living Conditions VS Him (Buffy acts funny and is funny)

holypotatoes
31-12-07, 04:33 AM
Oh Weredog you're putting 2 of my faves against eachother. I'll choose Living Conditons. I actually love this episode. I find it to be extremely funny and sort of true. I mean we've all had to share a space with someone who annoys us or has bad habits so it just made it seem more real. Plus we have Kathy who plays Cher's "Believe" repeatedly. That's my kind of roommate! I mean who doesn't :heart: that song???? Him was fantastic too. The best part and probably the most amusing scene in all of season 7 had to be when Buffy was outside principal Woods office with the rocket launcher. :lol: To see her just get tackled makes me laugh everytime. Also the part where they're all trying to figure out what they're going to do. Willow turning him into a girl. Funny stuff.

Beer Bad vs. Life Serial (Buffy drinks. :1party: )

basakbangel
31-12-07, 09:54 AM
Altough, I looove Life Serial. I'll go with Beer Bad because I feel like :D beer bad. hehehe I'm in school now and writing from one of the computer labs and I felt like Buffy was so funny at school.

Passion vs. Hush(did I do this?)

Nina
31-12-07, 12:22 PM
Passion, no contest.

Hush is a great episode and it would win of almost every episode. But Passion is the second best episode ever made on tv IMO.

Passion is the episode of Angelus.
It has the 'Passion' voice-over of Angelus (DB is a great voice-over BTW), it's the episode where Angelus shows how dangerous and evil he is. When he was hunting Jenny, I didn't knew what would happen. He killed her like it was art, I never saw a bad guy killing like that. And the emotions in the rest op the episode. *love*



What's my Line, part 2 vs Smashed

holypotatoes
31-12-07, 04:44 PM
I'll go with Smashed. Mainly because I can't remember what even happened in either of the What's My Line's. :s In Smashed we get the beginning of Buffy's most destructive relationship to date. We find out that Spike's chip doesn't work, on Buffy anyway. I think that was a fun change however I do feel like it was just to make them get together and nothing else. It would of been better if he went all bad ass like he was in S2 and just try to kill her. Although I do like the little smirk Buffy gives Spike when she tells him to get out of the way before they fight. It's kind of like she was flirting with him and didn't actually expect anything else to happen. My favorite line has to be "Look at you, you idiot. Poor Spikey can't be human, can't be a vampire. Where the hell do you fit in?" :2party: It's like go Buffy, kick his ass!!!!

When She Was Bad vs. Get It Done (Buffy being a bitch)

vampmogs
01-01-08, 08:40 AM
I'll go for 'When She Was Bad'

Both aren't terrible episodes but I'm going with 'When She Was Bad' for the awesome scooby scene at the end of the episode, and Xander hugging Willow as he watches Buffy work out her issues. Plus, I felt like putting my foot through the TV screen the first time I saw 'Get It Done' when Anya said she wasn't Buffy's friend. It is the first and possibly only time I've ever disliked her character, mainly because earlier in that season Buffy came to her and invited her back into the fold stating she didn't want her friends alone out there right now. For Anya to yell at Buffy saying she isn't her friend was pretty horrible of her IMO.

Pangs Vs Ted

Yosso
01-01-08, 03:11 PM
Ted, easily. As mildly funny as Pangs was, it didn't feel very structured to me a little hectic and chaotic and not just the episode content but the way the story was laid out. Ted is one of my favourite filler episodes and it was a great way to bring some tension to the Buffy/Joyce relationship, bringing a very regular situation, a potential step-father figure coming into a child's life, and giving it it's very own Jossverse twist. It had great character moments, which in any episode pretty much gives it extra brownie points in my eyes, bringing to light for the first time the issue about slayer rights, and the question - is it ok for a slayer to have privileges? It really went deep with Buffy as a person and a slayer, showing her feeling of isolation so so brilliantly.

I think in Pangs, Jane maybe went a little over the top with the comedy, making moments which would have been dramatic in any other episode comedic in this one which I don't think entirely fitted.

Consequences vs. Dead Things

Buffy frets about a bystander being killed accidentally.

holypotatoes
01-01-08, 04:17 PM
Ummm I'll go with Consequences. I'm not too fond of either one but I think this one's a little better. I remember being utterly shocked when I saw Faith come out of Giles' office after saying Buffy was the one who killed the guy. To this day I still go into an "Oh no you didn't!" mode when I watch. This was the start of Faith becoming bad which I think ended up being a great villain for the season. Dead Things wasn't the greatest. I mean we have that pointless scene on the balcony in the Bronze. I still don't know why they even needed that but whatever. I do like all of those cuts when Buffy was "killing" the girl. One minute it's the girl then Spike. I had no idea what was going on. :s

Surprise vs. Graduation Day Part 1

Nostalgia
01-01-08, 10:27 PM
This is very easy. Surprise is a decent episode, but its follow up is just much more conclusive and better quality. I could see Innocence vs Graduation Day (Part I), but either way I'd goth with Graduation Day (part I).

The entire Buffy vs Faith arc is amazing. I love the idea of a rogue slayer, and close relationship with a father figure who happens to be the enemy who is planning on murdering thousands of students. Great fight scene, and possibly is the best one of the series (I'd go with Buffy vs Willow above it). I love the build up and the "getting ready" scenes too.. and how Xander still has his comedic undertones and his little relationship with Anya. Amazing episode, and easily one of the best of the series (although I'd say Part 2 is slightly better.)

Surprise is a good one, no doubt.. but it doesn't match up close enough. Innocence would have, and I probably would have picked Innocence over it. However, if it was Innocence vs Graduation Day (Part 2), I would have gone with Graduation Day (Part 2).

Hmm, I just did the work for myself.

Innocence vs Graduation Day (Part 2)

holypotatoes
01-01-08, 11:50 PM
Even though I love Innocence I have to go with Graduation Day Part 2!!!!! This episode was just amazing! I loved every bit of it. I do think the snake could have been better but you know what I'm not going to dwell on the little things. I thought the scene between Buffy and Angel was fantastic. I don't think anything that was ever on the show had more sexual undertones to it than that scene. I don't even have to say the scene cause you already know. I don't like how Xander once again makes a stupid smart ass comment though to Angel about it. He can be a pain in the ass sometimes. Great episode that's all I need to say about it.

Innocence was fantastic as well. I just find the scene between Buffy and Angelus to be just horrific. OMG if any guy ever talked to me that way I would probably kick him in the family jewels instantly, I'm sorry. I love the rocket launcher and I love how Buffy did kick Angelus in the family jewels. She just did it a little later than I would have. :p

Bad Eggs vs. Ted

Weredog
02-01-08, 03:53 AM
Er, trick question? Man, I'd have to go with "Bad Eggs" just 'cause of the great Buffy/Xander interactions. At this time of the episode, Buffy was really into Angel and Xander newly into Cordy. So the writers wisely abandoned the usual "Xander hits on Buffy any free second he has" shtick and just had the two hang out and solve a problem together as friends. But then again, if you're a Buffy/Xander hooer like me, then this episode only made you realize how much Buffy and Xander really can be a couple because they hung out and solved a problem together!
"Ted" was just, ugh, man, next!

"Same Time, Same Place" VS. "Something Blue"

holypotatoes
02-01-08, 04:00 AM
Weredog how could you hate Ted???? :(


Definitely Something Blue! The whole Gnarl thing didn't do it for me. Something Blue is just plain funny. This episode we got to see what it would be like if Spuffy were to happen in a good way. Giles was pretty funny. I love his line to Xander, "Stop, whatever you're doing. You smell like fruit roll ups." :lol: The whole demon magent thing was pretty dumb though but I guess it's sort of true. Oh and another one of Giles' classic lines has to be right after the Spuffy exchange about the names that are going on the invitations. Buffy: "What's wrong with Buffy?" Giles: "Oh what an excellent question!" :roll: This episode was just a lovely filler ep.

Hush vs. The Body

Weredog
02-01-08, 06:21 AM
"Ted" was just unrealistic even in Buffy terms.
I'll go in details if I'm ever faced with that episode again. :p

Now "The Body" and "Hush," these are two very different episodes. It's almost too hard to choose one or the other because they all pertain elements I love that the other doesn't possess. "The Body" is great to insight the lives of Buffy Summers, Dawn Summers, Willow Rosenberg, Xander Harris, Anya Jenkins, and Tara Maclay because the episode gave nothing but character development. We learned so much about these people from their unique reactions to Joyce's death. I would have never known that Willow questioned her clothes, which ultimately questions her personality. I find it interesting that Xander finds solitude in physical pain (punching a wall). It suggests that he may have abusive parents? However, if I was in the mood to watch a contemporary fairtytale, I would go for "Hush." It is such a great episode to watch in the middle of the night under the covers. What terrifies me most about the Gentlemen is not their looks or the fact they cut your heart out alive, but it's how they glide through the damn town. That is just downright scary! When Tara looks over her shoulder... god, that's terrifying.
So if I had to really choose, well at this minute right here, I could go for a "Hush."

"No Place Like Home" Vs. "Bring on the Night"
Buffy runs away from baddie.

holypotatoes
03-01-08, 01:14 AM
I'm going with Bring On The Night. Just because it's a lot more interesting than No Place Like Home which Weredog I don't think had Buffy running away from a baddie but it has been a long time since I've watched it so I may be wrong. BotN I only watch just for the end. That ending scene with beaten down Buffy is just so inspirational. You want her to go kick ass and you think she'll do it. It made it look like she would actually be able to find a way to beat the First. The rest of the episode isn't that great but this is one of those eps where one scene can make it worth watching.


Where the Wild Things Are vs. Crush

Pandora's_Box
03-01-08, 01:49 AM
I'm going for Crush by default, Where The Wild Things Are is awful, one of the worst plots and visual effects. Except "Behind Blue Eyes" it's all bad. Crush isn't really great but it has some good moments like Spike and Dru dancing on Devic's song "Key", Harmony apparance and big love for the moment when Spike can come into Buffy's house, Marsters look is just awesome, great great acting!

Halloween vs The Wish
Willow in leather...:lol:

holypotatoes
03-01-08, 02:26 AM
Oh most definitely The Wish. Halloween is an okay episode but I think The Wish could beat out a lot of Buffy episodes. It's just great. I love the other universe we were introduced to. The most amusing thing had to have been that blood machine where the girl was laying on it and all these needles came down and started to suck the blood out of her. That thing was just cool and it would've been a great idea for like an engineer type vampire to create it in the Buffy universe we were used to. When the Master says it's for the "freshness" it makes me laugh a lot. I like Buffy in this one. In this episode she was yet again a bitch which I absolutely :heart: ! She wasn't bitchy in her usual way but a different version of bitchiness. I guess she was supposed to be a different version of Buffy so it worked. It's just a great episode.

Lover's Walk vs. School Hard

basakbangel
05-01-08, 03:26 PM
I'll go with School Hard. I loved Lover's walk but It was sooo depressing. Everyone was breaking up and Spike's quote was very touching and It makes me feel sorry. But School hard was cool. I just adore Spike and Drusilla together, they were really meant to eachother!

Hmm..

No place like home Vs. Intervention

holypotatoes
05-01-08, 03:47 PM
OMG Basak after I post this we'll be tied in the number of posts we have! :2party:

Umm I guess I'll go with Intervention. I like how they introduced the Buffybot I mean if they didn't season 6 would've been a complete downer with no happine