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aldieb
21-11-08, 03:33 PM
SPOILERS

You probably should not read this if you haven't seen the movie and don't want to be spoiled in any way ^^.

I saw Dana's post in Twilight movie speculations, but I thought we just had to open up a new thread! I saw the movie yesterday, (with Signe :D) but I am still jumping up and down, from the excitement of me actually liking the movie! :bounce:

I did like the movie... :laughbounce:! I am so surprised... I did not have very high expectations, although I've followed eveything movie-like the past... six months ^^. But wow it was actually quite awesome!!! Althought I'm not very sure I think it was very true to the book, it felt like a good movie out of Twilight anyway!

And I just have to say, I think the actors were incredible! Kellan Lutz was excactly as fun as I thought him to be. Jackson rathbone looked like he wanted to kill himself or possibly was in pain. And Ashley Green, Peter Facinelli and Nikki Reed did awesome, although they didn't really make as huge an impression on me as the ones above! However, Robert Pattinson... OMG he was gorgeous, (but that we already knew ^^) but he was an amazing Edward! His facial expressions!!! :roll:I thought I were going to die, of all the laughing! Oh and I have to mention I believe the humour in the movie was quite good, and funny! I thought they had lost it all, to go for the romantic pov, but oh was I amazingly and happily surprised :D! Charlie was hillarious, and Eric too. On the other hand, I think both Edward, but certeinly Bella could have been more than a notch more funny. I did miss Bellas witty remarks ^^. And while I'm on it, I did miss a lot of scenes, but then again, I still think it did good :D!

But please do discuss it here, I need to actually not kill my friend with all the Twilight talk ^^. I am going to see it again next week (without the constant squeling of the 400 girls in the room, I actually felt normal, for once in my life ^^), with some of my other friends, but I can't wait!

Bre
21-11-08, 08:45 PM
OMG! *dies*

I just saw it again this morning, I had to after going last night (aka, this morning... same difference! :lol: )

Yes, this movie was absolutely awesome. I think it was perfect in how they took the book to the big screen, they kept a lot of great lines and they added some awesome scenes and holy crap, there really aren't actual thoughts, mostly fangirl squeeing and tiredness because I only got about three hours of sleep last night. *g* Had to see it again!

Overall, I will say that it wasn't the best movie... but it was absolutely the best movie that they could have made with what they worked with! I was completely dazzled, it was like watching my book come to life on screen, and I couldn't stop grinning like an idiot the first time and the second time I wanted to squee all the way through it again! I'm seriously considering seeing it again tomorrow morning before work, again! :lol:

I will agree, Anna, that everyone did an awesome job in this film, although I really wanted to see some more Alice and Jasper, and Emmett! And Esme! Although we're lucky we did get them, didn't the original script have all of them cut out? *shame* But I personally think Nikki Reed was an excellent Rosalie, her attitude was right now, and Jasper? Oh, sweet mother, I wanted to make out with the screen in the baseball scenes, oh he was all cool and Alice was amazing! Peter Facinelli nailed Carlisle, no doubt about it, his fatherly attitude and his voice. Also, hotness! But I must say that Billy Burke playing Charlie was just the best. All of the subtle movements and emotions were played out wonderfully, and it all started with the sideways glance at the beginning of the movie. They also did a lovely job with Renee (can't remember her real name) for the actress, she was very everywhere, but so loving towards Bella.

Alright, as for Bella and Edward? :2party: and :heart: No other words! I think Kristen Stewart did an awesome job as Bella (and I do think a lot of it has to do with the fact that I'd read the books after I knew who had been cast, so she's always been my Bella) and her awkwardness and attraction to Edward was done very well. Robert Pattinson owned this role. When he first smelled Bella, *gah!* I also had to laugh because of how obvious he was, but alas, movie, and then Bella smelled herself. *glee* Their chemistry is powerful in this movie and I love how they played off each other, it was so well done, there was immediate sparkage!

I also think Hardwicke did an awesome job communicating the basics of the book, I have to admit it has the same obsessive quality as the books do, both times I got out, I wanted to back in and watch it all over! I think they did the book good, very good, and I loved the open-ending that they left, with Victoria. And holy moly, James was immensely more freaky in the movie than they let on in the trailers and TV spots.

And cripes if I must admit this, but I liked Taylor Lautner as Jacob. He was so sweet and smitten with Bella and I think he has awesome potential for the next movie (yeah, yeah? I've seen it twice already, planning on fifty more trips, I have no doubt that this will do good by the time its run is done in theaters).

On a side note: I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DVD! In the credits, they were showing all these scenes not in the movie and HOLY FUCK I want it! /end randomness.

Jessica was perfect. Mike was annoying and perfect for his role, I like how they made him more obnoxious, it was perfect. And the scene when he's asking her to prom and she's just staring at Edward? OMG! That was beautifully filmed! I loved it and I felt bad for him because Bella is completely elsewhere.

I have too many favorite scenes already. The ones sticking out are when they kiss in the bedroom, and Edward flies off of her! :lol: That was hot and then she fell asleep on him (one thing to note is they did a good job capturing all of the build up we got in the book of their relationship, and how they get to know each other). Another is the kitchen with the Cullens. Esme RULED! Emmett was hilarious and Rosalie! *gah* The bitch is in, and I loved it. I don't even know, I have more, but I can't think. I had four espress shots to wake up this morning and now I'm crashing and this Wendy's salad is the best tasting thing ever, and I think it's because I'm so tired. :lol: I'll have more thoughts as I think about it later.

Alas, I loved it. I ADORED it! It was everything I thought and more, IMO. I so can't wait to see it... again! :p

aldieb
21-11-08, 09:39 PM
I will agree, Anna, that everyone did an awesome job in this film, although I really wanted to see some more Alice and Jasper, and Emmett! And Esme! Although we're lucky we did get them, didn't the original script have all of them cut out? *shame* But I personally think Nikki Reed was an excellent Rosalie, her attitude was right now, and Jasper? Oh, sweet mother, I wanted to make out with the screen in the baseball scenes, oh he was all cool and Alice was amazing! Peter Facinelli nailed Carlisle, no doubt about it, his fatherly attitude and his voice. Also, hotness! But I must say that Billy Burke playing Charlie was just the best. All of the subtle movements and emotions were played out wonderfully, and it all started with the sideways glance at the beginning of the movie. They also did a lovely job with Renee (can't remember her real name) for the actress, she was very everywhere, but so loving towards Bella.



Jessica was perfect. Mike was annoying and perfect for his role, I like how they made him more obnoxious, it was perfect. And the scene when he's asking her to prom and she's just staring at Edward? OMG! That was beautifully filmed! I loved it and I felt bad for him because Bella is completely elsewhere.

Personally I really have to say I think the casting was the best and the most perfect thing about the movie! And I was glad we got to see even a bit of the Cullens (and what perfect and adorable moment they were ^^), as I think as you said, they had cut a lot! And Charlie... I loved his improved lines :xd. The pepper spray! :roll:and the gloria..., and the gun when she is telling him about Edward for the first time! It is simply awesome! And hillarious! And if not for the script I would still have loved the movie out of the awesome actors (I actually went to the cinema, looking forward to 2 hours of staring at them, since I didn't have much hope about the script, I thought they were going for totally cheesy chic flick!) I love how it didn't become one of those cheesy things, it totally had the mocking tone, and I luuurved it! It felt like the same kind of feeling the book gave, it feels like they kind of mock, regular romantic stuff and especially the trailers! I mean they seem so sweet, but really in the movie, they are a lot fonnier :D! Me happy :D!


Alright, as for Bella and Edward? :2party: and :heart: No other words! I think Kristen Stewart did an awesome job as Bella (and I do think a lot of it has to do with the fact that I'd read the books after I knew who had been cast, so she's always been my Bella) and her awkwardness and attraction to Edward was done very well. Robert Pattinson owned this role. When he first smelled Bella, *gah!* I also had to laugh because of how obvious he was, but alas, movie, and then Bella smelled herself. *glee* Their chemistry is powerful in this movie and I love how they played off each other, it was so well done, there was immediate sparkage!


Yes, the chemistry is simply awesome! But I did miss the witty comments from both of them *pouty pouty*. And gaaah! The biology scene! I thought I was going to die, from all the laughing! He looked like he were going to barf or something! I think it was simply hilarious! And I LOVE sneaky hilarious moments!

The kitchen scene!!! It is awesome! *Anna died* And the kissing scene when he flies of was simply perfect, I thought! I thought, it was going to be hard to show the tension, but when he flies right into the wall... it was simply perfect! But I did miss that she was supposed to nearly faint when they kiss *pouty again * :p

But gaah! And yey! And Gah again! I want to see it again! I have memory as a goldfish and feel I have forgotten all the best parts! And btw Bre I love your randomness ^^. And I have such a hard time remebering what I want to be said, when i write this, cos my mind is spinnign and I am still jumping up and down, and forward and backwards in my very crazy and Twilight-occupiod brain ^^. Ie, what I am trying to say, my thoughts are in no order, or in any way orginized ^^.

KingofCretins
21-11-08, 10:11 PM
Thread either needs Spoilers in the thread title and/or spoiler tags on all the posts.

I'm gonna go see it this weekend.

Bre
21-11-08, 10:12 PM
Personally I really have to say I think the casting was the best and the most perfect thing about the movie! And I was glad we got to see even a bit of the Cullens (and what perfect and adorable moment they were ^^), as I think as you said, they had cut a lot! And Charlie... I loved his improved lines :xd. The pepper spray! :roll:and the gloria..., and the gun when she is telling him about Edward for the first time! It is simply awesome! And hillarious! And if not for the script I would still have loved the movie out of the awesome actors (I actually went to the cinema, looking forward to 2 hours of staring at them, since I didn't have much hope about the script, I thought they were going for totally cheesy chic flick!)

:lol: Me, too! But if you think about it, the entire book series is made of complete cheese, and I love how that was communicated so nicely, and on top of that bringing in the Edward from Midnight Sun, which again, kudos to Robert Pattinson for getting that across, I loved the moments of angst for him, like when she asks if he gots contacts and he's like, "It's the lights" and then when he was walking away, I was like, keep walking, I wanna keep staring at your hips and that was random, :lol: And a long sentence. :p

Yes, the chemistry is simply awesome! But I did miss the witty comments from both of them *pouty pouty*. And gaaah! The biology scene! I thought I was going to die, from all the laughing! He looked like he were going to barf or something! I think it was simply hilarious! And I LOVE sneaky hilarious moments!

Hahahahaha! I know! It was funny as hell, and I keep saying this, but only made better when Bella sniffed her hair. The second time around, without all the squealing and giggling in the theater was so much better. Instead of rabid tweenies, there were adults this morning. You rock, high school, for keeping them in! :lol: Back to what I was saying, the second time around was a lot better to watch, mostly because you could actually concentrate on what was happening, instead of my intial screaming thoughts, so... I guess what I'm saying is see it again.

The kitchen scene!!! It is awesome! *Anna died* And the kissing scene when he flies of was simply perfect, I thought! I thought, it was going to be hard to show the tension, but when he flies right into the wall... it was simply perfect! But I did miss that she was supposed to nearly faint when they kiss *pouty again * :p

Wasn't it?! I love that he attacked her and then flew off, that was beautiful and so not in the book! Just another thing added in to communicate the hundreds of pages they couldn't keep in the film. I think it would have been hilarious to see KStew fainting on the big screen from kissing, although it might have been a little over the top... pretty much, too much like the book, because they tried to get so much in, to make her so fascinated and utterly taken with him, yet get to the point of the plot, so adding that cheesy moment in would have kind of annoyed, IMO. Like, she's gonna confront him (something I really liked in the movie!) when he glares at her, and then she faints. I think it wouldn't have worked because Kristen Stewart brought a little more oomph to the role than what Bella was in the book.

But gaah! And yey! And Gah again! I want to see it again! I have memory as a goldfish and feel I have forgotten all the best parts! And btw Bre I love your randomness ^^. And I have such a hard time remebering what I want to be said, when i write this, cos my mind is spinnign and I am still jumping up and down, and forward and backwards in my very crazy and Twilight-occupiod brain ^^.

Dude! I keep randomly squeeing, so you are so not the only one!!

And in randomess, Heather! :lol: I snorted from the laughter of your comment. :hug:

ThePoet's<3
22-11-08, 07:57 PM
Saw it last night! Thought they did an excellent job adapting Book to film. Not too many variations.

Special effects were good! The flying, running - I especially love the scene where she guesses and he reveals he is a vampire.

My one complaint was there was too many "Long Looks" between them - yes they were romantic and - hey - Pattinson is yummy to look at! - but at some points it felt like film filler. You know what I mean? And I kept thinking they could have squeezed in a few more action parts if there hadn't been so many "romantic gazes" however I'm sure they were trying to build the significance of the relationship.

The chemistry was really nice! That was very important and felt the two actors did a great job portraying the relationship.

Did not like Bella's prom dress...SM's version was better.

Really liked the choice of actors for the villians - and I don't know - I think seeing the actress portray Victoria somehow makes her scarrier! So, I really hope they turn out more movies!

I'm ready to go see it again! I'm thinking DVD will be out around Valentine's day? :D

LRae12
23-11-08, 03:31 AM
*covers eyes* not reading spoilers, not reading spoilers, lalalala....

ok, but I did want to post this news article about Twilight's release....

source: here (http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/2nd-update-for-the-twilight-zone/)

NO SEX, VIOLENCE OR STARS, YET #1: 'Twilight' Takes Biggest $35.7M Bite Out Of Box Office Friday; Bond #2, 'Bolt' #3
SATURDAY AM: Summit Entertainment's low cost blockbuster Twilight opened huge as expected because of heavy pre-sales with $35.7M Friday from 3,419 theaters, including $7M worth of Thursday midnight shows, for what should be $75M for its first North American weekend in release. Fangirls -- or should I say fang-girls -- were buying 5 Twilight tickets per second as of early Friday morning, making Twilight online ticket-seller Fandango's fastest-selling film since The Dark Knight last July. Then the tween and teen females in store bought or homemade Twilight clothes (and even Twilight tattoos) flocked to the first Big Screen version of Stephenie Meyer's bestselling series of Romeo & Juliet-style vampire romance books. Yet the movie adaptation was made by start-up studio Summit for only $37M. This will be the start of a big new franchise since a sequel is already in the works -- New Moon, based on Meyer's second book in the series. The first box office records have already been broken by Twilight's girl power. This is the biggest opening for a female director. Catherine Hardwicke is easily beating Mimi Leder's $41.1M for 1998's Deep Impact. (But with an asterisk since these figures aren't adjusted for inflation, ticket prices, etc.) Twilight will have the 2nd best opening day for a November release behind Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire, and the 11th best Friday opening of all time, beating the first Harry Potter And The Sorcerer's Stone, and the 15th best opening day ever. Summit is expecting at least another $24M for Saturday and another $15M for Sunday. It's a defining moment for the start-up studio that had really struggled on its first few releases. On Saturday morning, Summit officially announced the greenlight for the New Moon sequel (I'm told to contain costs the studio is considering making sequels #2 and #3 back to back like other successful franchises have done), and Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart formally thanked fans for their support of what is now a movie franchise.

So, that's just incredible news! :xd

Dorian's Kitten
23-11-08, 04:45 AM
Such a pleasant surprise! I liked the movie so much more than I expected too. It was a fairly faithful adaptation on the book, the changes were reasonable and the tone seemed spot-on to me.

I have heard a lot of rumors and was, frankly, expecting a train-wreck.

Instead, I think we got a movie that most fans of the book will enjoy. Yes, it's full of teen angst and Velveeta-flavored cheetos-but so is the book. It's part of the fun. (That said-I really think that the whole series would get more respect if the vamps didn't sparkle. The sparkly boy is hard to defend.)

My only disappointments were in a couple of casting choices. Edward and Bella were solid, I think. I've heard complaints about Stewart's Bella, but I wonder if those came from people who are familiar with Bella from the books. She is an odd-duck. She is hard to read and tends to be caught up in her head. She was those things in the movie.
I'm glad the Cullens were included (I've heard there was a chance we would have seen even less of them.) but a couple of them just didn't live up to their book-counterpoints. Alice was suitably perky and other-worldly and Emmet was perfectly jockish. But Rosalie is described in the book as almost indescribably lovely. The actress that portrayed her did capture her bitchiness, but not the delicate-inhuman beauty that I was led to expect. And Jasper was done up a bit clownish (also where was his special ability?)
Esme was lovely, but Dr Cullen should clearly have been played by James Marsters. (It needed to be said.)

It was a problem for me that the villains were so much more attractive than the Cullens. :(

And Jacob...just didn't have the charm I would have hoped for. I'm an Edward fan, but I always understood the pull of Jacob. This Jacob seemed to have no pull for Bella-there was no chemistry between them at all. That seems like a big challenge to the next movie. New Moon-forward very much relies on it being an excepted fact that Jacob is important to Bella. Also Jacob is supposed to be younger than Bella and simply didn't appear so here.

Kudos to the redone First Kiss, Baseball, Biology Class (both) and the very creepy ballet studio scene.

One question though: Spider Monkey?

aldieb
23-11-08, 09:23 PM
Wasn't it?! I love that he attacked her and then flew off, that was beautiful and so not in the book! Just another thing added in to communicate the hundreds of pages they couldn't keep in the film. I think it would have been hilarious to see KStew fainting on the big screen from kissing, although it might have been a little over the top... pretty much, too much like the book, because they tried to get so much in, to make her so fascinated and utterly taken with him, yet get to the point of the plot, so adding that cheesy moment in would have kind of annoyed, IMO. Like, she's gonna confront him (something I really liked in the movie!) when he glares at her, and then she faints. I think it wouldn't have worked because Kristen Stewart brought a little more oomph to the role than what Bella was in the book.


Yeah I guess you're right, it would have been hard to adapt to the screen. And I really do think she made a great Bella, although... I felt it was something missing... like the wits, but not really. She was a bit too wimpy and didn't really convey the "I'm not afraid part", but chose the "I'm so in love part" instead, a few times. However, I think it was quite great done, and fit well into the movie so I shouldn't complain :p.


My one complaint was there was too many "Long Looks" between them - yes they were romantic and - hey - Pattinson is yummy to look at! - but at some points it felt like film filler. You know what I mean? And I kept thinking they could have squeezed in a few more action parts if there hadn't been so many "romantic gazes" however I'm sure they were trying to build the significance of the relationship.


Yes I do think the long looks were a few too many, but... the whole movie wasn't really about them! Which I thought were great, since that really was what I had expected :D. And more action... no I think it was quite filled with action. A bit too much selling the action part, to get a wider audience. I think it was quite well balansed between the romantic, the action filled and the funny parts.Hhowever I am not much for the romantic parts, and I wouldn't mind if they were a bit fewer, but I think they did a good job on that.


My only disappointments were in a couple of casting choices. Edward and Bella were solid, I think. I've heard complaints about Stewart's Bella, but I wonder if those came from people who are familiar with Bella from the books. She is an odd-duck. She is hard to read and tends to be caught up in her head. She was those things in the movie.
I'm glad the Cullens were included (I've heard there was a chance we would have seen even less of them.) but a couple of them just didn't live up to their book-counterpoints. Alice was suitably perky and other-worldly and Emmet was perfectly jockish. But Rosalie is described in the book as almost indescribably lovely. The actress that portrayed her did capture her bitchiness, but not the delicate-inhuman beauty that I was led to expect. And Jasper was done up a bit clownish (also where was his special ability?)
Esme was lovely, but Dr Cullen should clearly have been played by James Marsters. (It needed to be said.)

Hm I can't say I agree with you there... I think the casting wa sperfect. Ok not really really perfect, cos I never really got Nikki as Rosalie. Probably only because she is such a good friend to Hardwicke, but I still think she did quite a good job (and yes I know, she really isn't as beautiful as she should be, but hen again who is?) And I would have loved to see Jasper's abilites, but on the other hand, how would they show them? Wouldn't it be more than difficult to show how everyone is affected? And btw I loved how he was in the movie ^^...


And Jacob...just didn't have the charm I would have hoped for. I'm an Edward fan, but I always understood the pull of Jacob. This Jacob seemed to have no pull for Bella-there was no chemistry between them at all. That seems like a big challenge to the next movie. New Moon-forward very much relies on it being an excepted fact that Jacob is important to Bella. Also Jacob is supposed to be younger than Bella and simply didn't appear so here.


No I didn't really get the charm of Jacob in the movie. And I didn't really get their chemisty eaither, but on the other hand, is there supposed to be that much chemistry between them in the first book? I mean she has only got eyes for Edward in the beginning. And I'm wondering in general how they will do the next movie, but i guess we'll just have to wait and see :D. Btw, Taylor Lautner is younger than Kristen Stewart, and Jacob isn't supposed to be that much younger. And he does look young in that hair, it's terribly ugly!


One question though: Spider Monkey?
... I really didn't get the whole point, it felt like action filling or something... so I have no idea...?

Theresa Marie86
24-11-08, 04:35 AM
I hated the whole spider monkey thing... weird much? I just watched the movie TWICE!! It was fricken awesome! But i have to agree with Dorian's kitten about Jasper and Rosalie.. i think they both couldve been better casted. But overall the movie was most excellent.

ThePoet's<3
24-11-08, 07:02 AM
Okay - so I had to go see it again tonight! :p I've been listening to the CD (I bought the last one the other night at Target and there were two other ladies circling the isles! I snatched that baby up and RAN for the check-out! :2party:) So I had to go back tonight and watch it again without the SQUEEEEEEEEEEE fangirl theater (but OH it was so much fun to be in the midst of the opening excitement!) full of GIRLS and WOMEN!

I loved the line we were in - you had preteens, tweens, teens and their MOMS who were just as excited about seeing the movie as their daughters were!

My only disappointments were in a couple of casting choices. But Rosalie is described in the book as almost indescribably lovely. The actress that portrayed her did capture her bitchiness, but not the delicate-inhuman beauty that I was led to expect.

I agree with you - she wasn't exactly what I had imagined as Rosalie either.

And Jasper was done up a bit clownish (also where was his special ability?)

I forgot all about Jasper's special ability! But thinking about it now, there was a moment on the baseball field when I believe Alice mentions something about "peace" to Jasper. Does anyone else remember that?

Dr Cullen should clearly have been played by James Marsters. (It needed to be said.) So glad you brought that up - :lol: :hug: - of course I wouldn't have been able to pay attention to Edward nd Bella for staring at the hottness of Dr. James Marsters Carlisle! :D

It was a problem for me that the villains were so much more attractive than the Cullens. :( That James was a hottie! And Rachelle LaFavre has such unusual features - I finally figured out why I thought she is so attractive - she reminds me of Cate Blanchett as "Galadriel" in Lord of the Rings.

http://www.ageofthering.com/atthemovies/cast/galadriel.jpg

And Jacob...just didn't have the charm I would have hoped for. I'm an Edward fan, but I always understood the pull of Jacob. This Jacob seemed to have no pull for Bella-there was no chemistry between them at all. That seems like a big challenge to the next movie. New Moon-forward very much relies on it being an excepted fact that Jacob is important to Bella. Also Jacob is supposed to be younger than Bella and simply didn't appear so here. There wasn't a lot of interaction between them in the movie and what little there was was very "friendly" - no romantic feelings whatsoever. Don't know if this was deliberate so as to not get many hopes up in case there isn't a "New Moon" in the future. They looked around the same age to me. And remember- Jacob kinda "grows" in the next book because of being a wolf - she notices how tall and big he has gotten. So, if this kid gets some age and maturity under his belt it won't be too bad.

Kudos to the redone First Kiss, Baseball, Biology Class (both) and the very creepy ballet studio scene. That first kiss was awesome - I loved his "be still"! SQUEE! Very nice scene!

One question though: Spider Monkey? That wasn't in the book? I thought it was cute!

LRae12
24-11-08, 09:35 PM
Yeah, the movie sucked.

Horrible screenplay. It was like a bad summary of the book. It was choppy, rushed, and poorly acted. The casting was ok in some spots, but in others, it was lousy. I can't believe I actually spent money watching this movie.....it was really that bad. I'm really not explaining it well. I know it was a low budget film - and it really showed. But what I didn't like was that they spoke most of the information instead of showing it. Most of the movie was just talking, and I found that annoying. I don't know what else to say to explain myself better. But the books are 10 trillion times better. Don't waste your money on this.

KingofCretins
24-11-08, 09:54 PM
Disagree. I think the movie was in many ways an improvement on the book.

Things that the movie does better than the book --

Establish rounded characters in the two leads. Bella had more will, Edward had more humanity, less of a Gary Stu.
Made certain dialogue just... work better. I have to admit, some lines in the books sounded sort of hammy and unnatural in my head when I tried to read them. Here, lines like the lion falling for the lamb is clearly with an understanding of the irony. His explanation of what it means to her that he's a vampire ("everything about me invites you in...") delivered with an edge, trying to convince her to want no part of him.
The central conflict of the other vampires -- much better to establish them in a build-up than to just tack them on in the third act.

Things the book does better than the movie --

More emotional clarity at some vital moments. Perfect example being when Bella leaves Forks. In the book, there is a build up and an understanding, at the time she says it, what it means to her and to Charlie for her to say the same thing her mother said. In the movie, there was no way to set that up and have it hit emotionally as she says it; the dialogue textually draws the comparison to her mom and then she explains it to the audience by telling Edward.
The baseball scene. While this is one of my favorite parts of the movie, I think the movie sort of failed to explain the real point of them playing during a thunderstorm. In fact, when Edward and Emmett collide, they have it happen at the same time as thunder, which sort of misses the point -- I'm not sure if I hadn't read the book that I'd get that they needed the storm to cover the sounds.
The sparkling. Wow, that was a bad effect. I get that it was all soft and romantic, but it suffers from the same basic flaw as the disfigured Phantom in the 2005 "Phantom of the Opera" -- it's not that bad. In the book, I came away with the idea that these guys are so bright in sunlight they are difficult to look at. Like roadflares or something. Very *bright*. In the movie, the sparkling honestly looked like it could be covered up with foundation. Or mistaken for a lot of body glitter.

Casting thoughts -- I actually liked Nikki Reed. She was one of my favorites. She's quite lovely, and I think that she sold the antipathy very well considering how little she was in the movie. I *loved* the brush past of Bella when Bella (correctly) called her out in the game.

Jacob is just flat out too small. Can't see how they won't have to recast this role. Jasper... also seems miscast. I just can't reconcile his backstory with that guy.

I am torn on the Facinelli. In the early scenes, he seemed too young, his accent too clear, to be Carlisle. But, in the ballet studio, he nailed it. I guess he works, but I would rather have seen someone like, for instance, Alexis Denisof here.

Great casting of the Forks kids, I think. Jessica was very cute and bubbly. Mike and Eric both suitable to the role.

The casting of the nomad vampires was very solid, although I think Cam Gigendot's ponytail was a little much. I sort of pictured him as a bit more like Penn from the Angel episode "Somnambulist".

One thing that I was very disappointed by was that they cut out Bella's whole escape from Jasper and Alice. It was a very clever, very brave moment for the character, a very empowered decision. The series affords her so few opportunities to do anything heroic without undermining them, and it's a shame not to see them in the movie.

Only other thing that surprised me was how many iconic lines weren't in there. Maybe not, though -- maybe I only think they are iconic because they are so often quoted and preferred by a lot of "Twilight" fans here :) For instance, "Oh, I'm with the vampires, of course" -- gone. Alice's play on words of having Bella for dinner -- gone.

No real thoughts beyond those at the moment. I'm looking forward to what Hardwick, as well as Stewart, will do with the pathos in "New Moon".

Theresa Marie86
25-11-08, 09:07 PM
Ah now that i have more time i can view my opinions better than my first post.

The sparkling. Wow, that was a bad effect. I get that it was all soft and romantic, but it suffers from the same basic flaw as the disfigured Phantom in the 2005 "Phantom of the Opera" -- it's not that bad. In the book, I came away with the idea that these guys are so bright in sunlight they are difficult to look at. Like roadflares or something. Very *bright*. In the movie, the sparkling honestly looked like it could be covered up with foundation. Or mistaken for a lot of body glitter.

Man i was reaally hoping i wasnt the only other one that felt like we got really ripped off with the sparkling effects!! The first time i seen the movie i was with my mom and she had read the book and she was like... WTF you cant even tell!! He's supposed to be almost hard to look at!!! And i thught the same, in the book it was almost described to have been difficult to look at.. i imagined there to be beems of light radiating off of him t to point where you had to shield your eyes with your arm to looks at him. I really hope that in the next movie they will make it much more vibrant. When i seen the movie the second time with my boyfriend who hadnt seen the movie, he just looked at me and was lie.. i dont get it, why cant he go out in the sun in front of people? I had to actually explain to him that edward was supposed to have been sparkling, and only then did he notice in the scence where they were lying in the field.

It was choppy, rushed, and poorly acted.

I did agree with Lrae about this though, but only about it being rushed, and choppy. I felt like it shouldve been a three hour long movie due to the fact that it was such a long book. I felt like they took out important parts to fill in new parts. For example they cut out the days where edward questioned her endlessly, and cut out "i need a human moment" and "do i dazzle you" and "i'll stay as long as it is good for you"(which will hurt them in the second movie because that was a big line foreshadowing edward leaving bella IMO) and they also cut out bella cooking for her dad every night. That really kinda peeved me how they were always going out to eat. I feel like that was a big part of bella's character was her love for her dad, and how she felt like she needed to take care of her parents.

I did however think at some points the acting was ... shaky BUT i feel like that was some of the movies charm.. if you think about it with alllll the publicity all of the book/ movie had.The actors had pretty big shoes to fill and i feel like with the BIG exception of jasper all the actors were pretty dead on.

Overall the movie was deff an awesome movie, of course i have my complaints but i feel like if i didnt love the book soo much and if hadnt of read the book first i would love the movie that much more.

ThePoet's<3
26-11-08, 05:23 AM
I liked the sparkles...I thought he was pretty...:D Really! I wondered how they were going to achieve the effect because he was supposed to shine like diamonds. So I wasn't disappointed in the effect.

But yes - I still think some of the "long romantic gazes" could have been put to better use.

One thing with Jasper - he did comment "I've fought their kind before". So, we could be setting Jasper up for the fighter he will become in Breaking Dawn.

I I think they would be doing themselves a favor to combine the next two books - "New Moon" and "Eclipse" so as to avoid the depressing overtones of New Moon. Maybe even combine half of Eclipse with both New Moon and Breaking Dawn. However, "Empire Strikes Back" and "LOTR: Two Towers" - both awkward "middle movies" of big sequels, so maybe New Moon will be somewhat like that - fans will still see it no matter how dark the overtones.


Perhaps if they really focus on the relationship with Jacob it will give it a more positive feel - as well as please Team Jacob! After all, they will need their turn at bat too! :D

And sorry - I miss the fangs... Could we not have a little fang?

Theresa Marie86
26-11-08, 05:44 AM
Fangs!!!! I didn't even think of that.. there were no fangs were there?? Man,... i wish there were fangs too!

Veverka
26-11-08, 07:57 AM
I have really mixed feelings- on one hand I like that the director/producer/ whoever decided to make kind of a different film- gets a little arty, or something. On the other hand: maybe classic would have been better? I don't know.

Casting? Loved Alice, loved Jasper, didn't see enough of Esme to know for sure, liked Emmett more than I had expected to. Rosalie? No. There was a lot of Nikki Reed hate around, and I tried not to buy into it, I liked her fine in Thirteen... but.... No. She sucked. I didn't get beautiful, I got stuck up. I didn't get beautiful, I got bad fashion choices for her figure. Harsh? Yes. Too bad. I think there must be hundreds of beautiful blondes in Hollywood, so how it was so hard to cast for that role, I have no idea. As for Carlisle... aahh... I think he was overrated! *ducks to avoid flying objects aimed at head* Oh, Edward and Bella? Meh. Yes, actually, I liked Edward more than I had expected to. As for Bella... I am not too sure. I think she was okay, but I think she overplayed the uncomfortable, like she was playing New Moon Bella already, or something. I mean yes, vampire issue, etc, but she was falling in love for the first time. A smile or two wouldn't go astray!

The baddies? Yes, they were cool. Better than I had expected. The spider monkey thing? What was up with that? With the amount of stuff that was left out, that comment could have been omitted and the time given to something else. The everything? Overall: more good than bad, but if they couldn't fit Twilight into two hours, beats me how they're going to manage Breaking Dawn...

Theresa Marie86
26-11-08, 08:47 AM
but if they couldn't fit Twilight into two hours, beats me how they're going to manage Breaking Dawn...

My thoughts EXACTLY! I feel that way about the last three books altogether! All the books have a tremendous amount of vital information that im afraid wil be left out.

Did anybody else feel like the producer/director/writers maybe might have assumed that everybody had read the books and would just naturally know what everything meant? For example: Edward is playing the piano randomly, my b/f who hasnt read the book was like "i dont understand where this came from, is this significant?" I told him it was bella's lulliby. Another being that without knowing what bella is thinking, and obsessing over, wouldnt it seem to an outsider that edward and bella fall in love to fast.. i mean in the movie they barely interacted then BOOM madly in love.I just wish they wouldnt have cut out some vital conversations between bella and edward. and I have other examples but now that im on the spot i cant think of any... but am i alone with this? I guess its easy to assume if your watching twilight odds are you've read it.

Veverka
26-11-08, 08:49 AM
My thoughts EXACTLY! I feel that way about the alst three movies altogether! All the books have a tremendous amount of vital information that im afraid wil be left out.

Did anybody else feel like the producer/director/writers maybe might have assumed that everybody had read the books and would just naturally know what everything meant? For example: Edward is playing the piano randomly, my b/f who hasnt read the book was like "i dont understand where this came from, is this significant?" I told him it was bella's lulliby. I have other examples but now that im on the spot i cant think of any... but am i alone with this? I guess its easy to assume if your watching twilight odds are you've read it.

Oh, totally. My b/f and I were just talking about the chemistry between Bella and Edward even, and he thought that it was almost a stretch that they fell in love, he thought that was a leap of faith from the books and that it wasn't overly apparent from the movie. :(

Theresa Marie86
26-11-08, 08:53 AM
Thats pretty much what my boyfriend said! He was like "they just met how come they love each other, and edward was even gone half the time she's known him?"

Amber
26-11-08, 11:24 AM
copied from my livejournal.

Good because I really enjoyed the movie (aside from KStew's acting. sorry but it really left something to be desired. and I hate her voice. even RPattz had his moments of ridiculous laughable acting, but overall he was great.)

Bad because the teenage girls that filled the theater screamed through the entire thing, AND even though we got there an hour early almost all the seats were filled and we got stuck in the second to first row so we had to look up the whole time and it was uncomfortable and hard to watch. Some kid behind me was irritating me and I told him to shut up and called him ron weasley (he had red hair and freckles).

SO, I need to see it again, further away. And without my friends trying to talk to me the entire time.

So about KStew. she just... wasn't very Bella-ish for me. She just wasn't. I guess in the trailer she was okay, cause she wasn't really talking... but in the clips and now in the movie, she doesn't do much for me. I liked the way she looked, but the way she carried herself and spoke, reminded me too much of RL Kristen Stewart, which is arrogant and snobby and I don't see Bella as a snob. Also, the scene where he comes into her room, she isn't even sheepish about the fact that she's just chillin in her underwear... Bella would be like holy crap!! and grab some pants. And Edward being the virtuous gentleman that he is would have turned away immediately like ACK!!! Since when is Bella all loose and pantyfied? She also didn't seem very clumsy. Like, her slipping and such was very forced and obvious. At the risk of being attacked, I think she had better onscreen chemistry with Taylor. I'm for real. Rob and Kristen look great in pictures. But interacting, she and Taylor had a better flow. His wig didn't look TOO ridiculous at the end either. To be honest. He looked hot in his lil tie. and omg he and Rob have awesome hate chemistry. can't wait for more of that. I figure I have to accept him and art him at SOME point, so I may as well try. So that was good. omg by the way I LOVE CHARLIE AND BILLY. they were perfect. Renee was... ehh. not as pretty as I hoped for? Phil was nonexistent as always. I'm pretty bummed about the lack of screen time for the Cullens but we knew that would happen. I'm also disappointed that so much dialogue was cut. Things we saw in previews, clips and the little teaser clips that ran on tv constantly. They also changed James' dialogue from the original MTV clip which was lame. and when James said you brought a snack, Edward didn't do his hilarious dramatic gopher face. BUMMER.

I loved Ashley as Alice. I thought she was perfect. She was everything I could hope for and more. The way she walked talked, even pitched, just everything. Nikki was also good. Surprisingly. My complaint has been that she doesn't LOOK right, but her performance was very Rosalie in my opinion. Jasper looked constipated throughout the entire thing, and he had next to no lines. Neither did Emmett who basically looked incredibly hot the entire time and that was about it. Elizabeth surprised me as Esme coming off a lot more Esme-ish than I had expected. I don't really think any of them came off as devastatingly beautiful as in our imaginations (except maybe Kellan rawr) but we can only expect so much.

I thought Rob was great. He looked good, he sounded good.. I personally thought he was the funniest one in the movie and had the most classic one liners. My only problem with his character is that they didn't explain a whole lot of... anything. Especially when it came to Edward. If you didn't read the books, you would have had next to no idea wtf was going on, why he was reacting the way he was, why he said certain things. They didn't make the movie approachable to an outside audience at ALL. I know they only have so much time but they really cut down every event to the bare minimum. Bella walks around Port Angeles for like 2 seconds and is approached by the scary dudes. and they weren't really even scary. they were like... drunk college guys. I always envisioned some creepy ass middle aged dirty men with seriously BAD intentions. It came off like they were just horny, overexcited drunks. There were some really fantastic moments but I am a little sad I saw so much of it ahead of time online in the million clips they've shown. My friends were irritated with me because I already knew some scenes word for word.

The baseball scene was fantastic although it was so short and when they all jumped out in front of Bella they didn't really move fast enough for my liking. Like... I could have moved that fast. I mean really.

ThePoet's<3
01-12-08, 05:21 AM
Read the book again this weekend. One of the things I liked about the movie that the book did not do a good job with was the whole "villianous vampire" danger. In the book you just get "some people were attacked by an animal". After a while Ii just forgot all about thhe attacks. Then when James/Laurent/Victoria show up at the ball game it was like - OH YEAH - they are supposed to be the villians!

However, in the movie we have the specifically written scenes where we see the 3 go in for the attack of their prey. I think it drove home the danger of who they were and why we should be afraid of them. Otherwise - in New Moon (which I also re-read this weekend) having Victoria come back for Bella doesn't really seem that scary.

I love how they have her hanging around at the prom at the end of the movie. Sets up the danger for New Moon. You know she's coming back for revenge.

But yeah, it's gonna be rough squeezing New Moon into a couple of hours. My thoughts is that they try to condense the whole "I'm so depressed" part into a nice musical "montage" and then get right to her relationship with Jacob. Much as they do with the chapters "October, November and December".

NileQT87
02-12-08, 07:19 AM
I just saw it.

My main fear was how fresh it would feel and on that count it managed to be unique enough of a story with its own story elements and its own mythology.

I would say that the vampires zipping around annoyed me after a while. I don't think the blurred speed effect worked for me. And the acting style was more of the unnatural animalistic kind of vampire than the more natural, fluid acting style used for BtVS/AtS and Interview with the Vampire. It was one of the reasons (besides it being craptacular) that I disliked Queen of the Damned.

The acting left a lot to be desired. But it was fun. Robert does nothing for me and the character of Edward is practically a dangling carrot for my tastes--I'm a tortured vampire magnet! That was disappointing. The dialog was painful at times. I liked the outdoorsy, low-budget feel of the setting. The father and the old Indian man felt very authentic to the setting and were the most natural-acting performances. Emmet was another performance that was good (but he looked like he'd be more fitted to a younger part). Jacob's teeth creeped me out. Alice was the one of the Cullens that really stood out as having a personality.

Cam/James was by far the best eye-candy in the film. And really the only interesting performance that really sticks out for me. The ballet room scene was the best one because it was the first scene in the film that really felt epic.

They should have taken out a lot of the longing looks and stilted dialog and added the threat earlier in the film. Bella's first meeting with the Cullens in their home was quite funny. I love romance, but the actors didn't have much chemistry. The non-romance scenes ended up being better, which is a shame.

As far as book-to-movie adaptations of tween/teen forbidden romance with immortals go, Tuck Everlasting was a more polished and better-acted film.

Twilight probably could have used a bit more humor and introduced the villains sooner. Also, getting to know the Cullens more and taking out some of the more stilted Edward/Bella scenes would have been better.

The werewolves vs. vampires plot seems promising, though.

sherrilina
16-12-08, 10:09 PM
I have now seen it twice, and loved it even more the second time....

The first time I saw it, I was not impressed at first (though I totally squeed at how Jacob was introduced before Edward, and at their adorable interactions period), but loved it by the end. This time when I saw it I LOVED EVERY SINGLE MINUTE OF IT!!! I think it might be what I’d call “the Harry Potter effect”—when the first time I see a movie adaptation of a book, I don’t like it that much, and am a little disappointed, but then the next time I see it, when I know what to expect accuracy wise and am just enjoying it for what it is, I love it. This happened to me for both PoA and GoF, hence the effect name! ;) Though since I still liked it a lot even after the first time I saw it, it doesn’t quite fit with those HP movies….Speaking of Harry Potter though, this movie was certainly better than the first HP movie, and perhaps the second one, so in that contest of the epic ‘HP vs Twilight’ battle Twilight wins…

In any case, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I love the casting (especially RPattz and KStew, Charlie, Jessica, and Emmett), the music (which I could appreciate even more after listening to the soundtrack so many times before seeing the movie a second time—it was especially interesting hearing the song that Rob composed and sang himself playing in the background of the restaurant scene as he talked—it’s like, Rob talking and singing at the same time! :p Man, can he sing though….boy’s not only hot and decent at acting, but has musical/creative talent as well!), the cinematography (okay, a little too much eye close-ups, but otherwise lovely, especially the in between shots of the forest and mountains), and the script/directing—I think that it is a very faithful adaptation (with some rearranging in storytelling order sure, but not that drastic IMO), though with improvements on the book: such as Bella having more of an actual relationship with her dad that does not just consist of cooking and cleaning for him (she doesn’t cook for him once, they always eat at the diner, lol—and she even indicates in the hospital that she is going to APOLOGIZE to her dad for the horrible things she said to him before she fled Forks—I went back and checked my roomate’s copy of “Twilight” to see if she mentions needing to see her dad to do so in the book, and she does NOT, then or later! So yay for CHardwicke trying to make Bella a more believable/better person!), Bella being a little stronger and more assertive a character (telling Angela to be a strong, independent woman—rofl—and ask Eric to the prom, kissing Edward back harder and taking the lead in the makeout session when they first kiss instead of *rolleyes* FAINTING, talking back to Edward a little more in the beginning, the plot of James/Victoria/Laurent showing up earlier in the movie instead of being tacked on in the end, with Charlie even hunting them down, and with them being 10x cooler and more badass, etc. I also enjoyed E/B a lot more than I do in the books, I think it was because RPattz and KStew have so much chemistry onscreen, and because we didn't have to hear Bella gush about how perfectly perfect Edward was and how unworthy and plain she was every 5 minutes.

I think that RPattz captured Edward well (and looked incredibly sexy in that grey coat, why did he change to that hideous parka later?), Kristen was a slightly improved!Bella (but still true in many ways to the book!Bella), Charlie and Billy were hilarious and definitely cooler than in the book, Emmett was perfect, Alice and Carlisle were great too (though Carlisle looked a little too pasty when he first entered), the Nomads were all pure win (and extremely sexy in the case of James), Renee was spot on, etc. While I know Nikki Reed’s casting caused many complaints, I actually thought she did a great job in the movie as far as being Rosalie’s bitchy and aloof self—sure, she’s not as beautiful as she should be, but maybe I just had already come to terms with this and didn’t care anymore….I loved it when she crushed the bowl in the kitchen, that is so Rosalie…..Jacob was also good I thought, I liked his grin and how he interacted with Bella—I thought you could see possible seeds of future romance there, though now it seems that’s all for nothing anyway, since he’s probably going to be recast….*sigh.* Please let it not be Copon….if it’s Steven Strait who’s the next Jacob I would be totally fine with the change though—thrilled in fact. In short the only people I didn’t like casting wise were Jasper (I mean he was okay, just that he looked silly rather than brooding—causing unintentional lolz every time he appeared—not a good actor), Mike Welch (maybe it was the script too, but he just did not stay very faithful to his counterpart in the book, he was not serious and kind enough to be Mike), Eric (who was also totally different from how he was in the book, and since when was he Asian? Made me think of another Eric I once knew, who was equally annoying…), and Angela (I don’t know, she just didn’t do it for me—she seemed a little too needy, not like the Angela I know and love from the books).

In short, well done Catherine Hardwicke! I’m very sorry that you won’t be continuing to do the movies, especially since female teen angst is your specialty and there’s so much of that in NM, and since you so clearly get Jacob/Bella (as seen in interviews). I only hope that Chris Weitz can do it and the rest of NM justice, and that he won’t do anything stupid like he did when he cut the end of The Golden Compass. I want to see this movie again….:D

PS—Does anyone know what the music/song playing when Bella is getting the venom sucked out of her/dying is? Because I loved it, yet it’s not on the soundtrack, sadly…

~M@rie~
16-12-08, 10:12 PM
PS—Does anyone know what the music/song playing when Bella is getting the venom sucked out of her/dying is? Because I loved it, yet it’s not on the soundtrack, sadly…

It's called Never Think by our own Edward Cullen, Robert Pattinson. ;) It was sold as a bonus track on iTunes, if my memory's good.... you can probably find it in another way...

sherrilina
16-12-08, 10:19 PM
It's called Never Think by our own Edward Cullen, Robert Pattinson. ;) It was sold as a bonus track on iTunes, if my memory's good.... you can probably find it in another way...
Wait, it was THAT one? :s Are you sure? God, that shows how much I was paying attention, I've only listened to that song a million times in between seeing "Twilight" the first time and seeing it the second, and even noted it playing during the restaurant scene this time! :rolleyes: I totally thought a different song was playing though....but now as I listen to it I think you're right!

I feel really stupid right now...:lol:

And thanks, but yeah "Never Think" IS on the soundtrack! ;)

~M@rie~
16-12-08, 10:23 PM
Wait, it was THAT one? :s Are you sure? God, that shows how much I was paying attention, I've only listened to that song a million times in between seeing "Twilight" the first time and seeing it the second, and even noted it playing during the restaurant scene this time! :rolleyes: I totally thought a different song was playing though....but now as I listen to it I think you're right!

I feel really stupid right now...:lol:

And thanks, but yeah "Never Think" IS on the soundtrack! ;)

Nah, sorry my bad! Never Think is the restaurant scene. The biting scene is Let Me Sign, also sung by Robert. Sorry!! :err:

sherrilina
16-12-08, 10:32 PM
Nah, sorry my bad! Never Think is the restaurant scene. The biting scene is Let Me Sign, also sung by Robert. Sorry!! :err:
Ah okay then.....man is that man a good singer! Cute and talented....;)

But thanks, glad to know I wasn't just totally unobservant! :p

Ahm Shere
19-12-08, 07:46 PM
I've just been to see this movie today, and my GOSH it was awesome. I want to go and see it again :lol: I haven't read the book, but after watching it, I went straight out and bought it :) It's so amazing, the acting is amazing...and Edward is so schmexy! He's drop dead gorgeous. Those eyes...:heart:

Anyhoo, yes, everything about this movie was amazing. And it was an interesting take on Vampire Lore as well. When in sunlight, the skin dazzles like diamonds. Interesting. :)

carousel_girl8
22-12-08, 02:00 PM
I saw this on Friday and loved it, I think every character has been portrayed very well (although I don't picture Taylor Lautner as Jacob still) I was so excited about seeing the film that I thought it would be a let down but it was as good as I expected it to be. I wasn't sure about Kristen as Bella but after seeing the film I think she is brilliant in the role and I love Robert as Edward - very very sexy :D

It was fast paced but it is understandable because the book is quite long, I think they still managed to keep to the book very well though. I loved the comedy with Charlie and Bella, with the mace :lol: I also loved the meeting the Cullens scene, loved it when Rosalie broke the bowl :lol:

I can't wait for it to come out on DVD now and I also can't wait to hear more about New Moon. They have managed to cast the characters so well I can't wait to see who is cast as the members of the Volturi.

doppelganger47
22-12-08, 03:22 PM
wow, i'm surprised so many people loved the film.
at the beginning, i had set my expectations low...having read the book (thus knowing what's going to happen) and having heard from a friend (who'd never read the book) that it was average (only the eye candy did it for her).

after seeing the movie, it was disappointing...
- Edward's first whiff of Bella's scent sent Rob gagging like he was gonna puke from some disgusting smell. sure, it was funny to watch, but it wasn't supposed to be. there was no intensity from the scene; ie, Edward should've been staring at her like he wanted to kill her and struggling deeply to restrain himself from doing so.
- Edward's first line to Bella was 'hello'...the whole theatre laughed, but i thought he sounded retarded...maybe it was just him trying to get into his American accent, but he sounded really weird in that first scene he had lines. he sounded normal afterwards though.
- all the school kids were not what i expected. surely, Jessica was annoying enough (couldn't make it any more obvious that she was only friends with Bella to get Mike's attention), while Angela was quiet and nice, but Mike seemed too goofy and dorky to be generically popular, while Eric just talked a lot. Mike shaking his bum in front of the cafe seemed really stupid.
- Jacob; meh, not sold yet on his acting and his ability to grow a bit taller and pack on the muscle to play Jacob in New Moon.
- Embry...i was so looking forward to his character. i don't remember him saying a single line. why cast him then? Sam had 1 line, but their story seemed kind of boring.
- Bella's googling scenes (though kind of realistic in a sense, despite Bella not being a heavy user of the internet) seemed cheesy...though i have heard people say it was a low budget film.
- my most hated part of the movie was the way the film just jumped from scene to scene...and esp how there was an apparent lack of flow. i guessed they squeezed in all the important scenes and the memorable quotes into the cheesy dialogue, but one minute it'd be one scene, the next it'd be another...
- i thought the scene of Bella seeing her dad at work and then having a 1 minute chat before departing is a clear example of an unnecessary scene. scenes were so short (ie, piano scene) that they seemed unnecessary. even the greenhouse scene could've been excluded. Laurent's 5 sec scene of warning the Cullens too looked too short to be important. they could've added more unimportant scenes of the two lead characters getting to know each other, so as to build some flow between the major scenes.
- the forest scene seemed a bit weird to me. one minute it looked like they were about to head into the school with the rest of the students, the next Bella randomly walks into the forest, while Edward just follows.
- Bella finds out that James has her mum and she has to escape from Jasper and Alice to get to the studio. she merely walks out the front door and catches the closest taxi. you'd think there would've been more thought to it, esp on how to slip through Alice's powers (though they were obviously not mentioned much throughout the film).
- Edward didn't look nearly as distraught as i thought he'd be when seeing Bella dying/converting infront of him...
- and finally the end scene of Carlisle telling Edward to stop (sucking her blood, because it'll kill her). Carlisle made such weak repetitive attempts to talk Edward out of it, it just looked stupid. it felt like Carlisle should've tried harder; ie, rip Edward off of her or something.

the movie did have some fun parts though.
i loved all the family scenes; ie,
- Cullens making Bella dinner and Emmett goes 'her name is Bella', like it meant she likes Italian.
- Rosalie smashing the bowl. she played her part well.
- Edward (with sunnies) and Bella walking arm in arm into the school. very cool scene...but it was so short, it made me wonder if it was even a necessary scene.
- and finally, the baseball scene was my favourite part of the movie, esp how Jasper throws the bat up in front of himself and catches it again...he looked mighty cool doing it.
Emmett, Jasper, Alice and Rosalie were my favs from the film...and yes, Edward and James were some very nice eye candy.

i personally didn't think Kristen or Rob's acting were that good either...
i will still rewatch it when the dvd is out, but mostly because i love the books and would like to reassess the movie again.